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Thread: green card holders should be allowed to freely travel overseas

  1. #1
    As per INS Rules- Green card holders can loose their permanent resident status if they remain outside of the US for more than one year.

    They also loose their status if they frequently travel outside US. Many times they face harassment at the hands of immigration officers at US airports- and even at INS offices when they visit there just because they frequently travel outside US.

    It is at the discretion of immigrant officer at point of entry to declare any returning resident as abandoned his residence.

    This Rule can be highly discriminatory and harsh.

    We have to respect human rights- and for humanitarian reasons I suggest that US residents may be freely allowed to travel abroad without any restriction. There is no harm if they travel abroad for long time for legitimate reasons.

    They may be allowed to return any time even after 5 years of stay abroad-because there may be retired seniors as residents. They have no jobs in US. If they do not travel aboard to make some legitimate money- they will depend upon US welfare system and they will be burden on US economy. If such a resident visit abroad to make some legitimate money- and remit some money to his family in US and also pays taxes- he is benefiting US.

    Moreover- biggest issue here is to win hearts and minds of all categories of immigrants- make them love US and make them loyal to US.

    I therefore request you to change this harsh Rule and let all green card holders freely travel abroad as many times as they want.

    Let them stay abroad for as long as 5 years or even ten years

    There is no harm in allowing them to travel just as US citizens can travel abroad freely...

    If INS wants to check whether or not they still maintain their residency- let them make rule that all green card holders should file their tax returns and pay taxes.

    This one rule alone should be sufficient to retain their green card but no restriction on overseas travel.



    THE rule relating to green card holders returning

    within 6 months was made when US economy was booming and US job market required manpower to fill the jobs.

    At this time - US economy is in near recession- there are

    not many jobs - and many jobs are outsourced.

    So let green card holders work abroad- contribute to

    taxes and this is also time to change rules.

    Let green card holders work abroad just like US citizens.



    I request Congress and Senate to pl introduce legislation-bill to change rules.

  2. #2
    As per INS Rules- Green card holders can loose their permanent resident status if they remain outside of the US for more than one year.

    They also loose their status if they frequently travel outside US. Many times they face harassment at the hands of immigration officers at US airports- and even at INS offices when they visit there just because they frequently travel outside US.

    It is at the discretion of immigrant officer at point of entry to declare any returning resident as abandoned his residence.

    This Rule can be highly discriminatory and harsh.

    We have to respect human rights- and for humanitarian reasons I suggest that US residents may be freely allowed to travel abroad without any restriction. There is no harm if they travel abroad for long time for legitimate reasons.

    They may be allowed to return any time even after 5 years of stay abroad-because there may be retired seniors as residents. They have no jobs in US. If they do not travel aboard to make some legitimate money- they will depend upon US welfare system and they will be burden on US economy. If such a resident visit abroad to make some legitimate money- and remit some money to his family in US and also pays taxes- he is benefiting US.

    Moreover- biggest issue here is to win hearts and minds of all categories of immigrants- make them love US and make them loyal to US.

    I therefore request you to change this harsh Rule and let all green card holders freely travel abroad as many times as they want.

    Let them stay abroad for as long as 5 years or even ten years

    There is no harm in allowing them to travel just as US citizens can travel abroad freely...

    If INS wants to check whether or not they still maintain their residency- let them make rule that all green card holders should file their tax returns and pay taxes.

    This one rule alone should be sufficient to retain their green card but no restriction on overseas travel.



    THE rule relating to green card holders returning

    within 6 months was made when US economy was booming and US job market required manpower to fill the jobs.

    At this time - US economy is in near recession- there are

    not many jobs - and many jobs are outsourced.

    So let green card holders work abroad- contribute to

    taxes and this is also time to change rules.

    Let green card holders work abroad just like US citizens.



    I request Congress and Senate to pl introduce legislation-bill to change rules.

  3. #3
    Sheriff: It sounds to me like you want to treat your green card as nothing more than a glorified tourist visa!! A foreign national needs the permission of the American Government to remain in the United States...and MUST adhere to any and all restrictions imposed by same.

    A prospective permanent resident is aware of the restrictions when they apply for and obtain their green card...and if they don't like it, well, they should stay in their country of origin.

    Furthermore, if a "permanent resident" makes the choice to live and work overseas...well, by definition, that person is no longer a permanent resident of the United States.

    Quite honestly, if you sent such a "letter" to the elected representatives of the American people, then - in my opinion - you have shown a complete disrespect for this country. Fortunately, your "letter" has most likely been filed in the trash.

    Oooooh, just so that you know for future reference, a permanent resident cannot "loose" their green card for any reason at all. Perhaps, you should learn the difference between lose and loose!!

  4. #4
    A PR can apply for a re-entry permit which is good for stays outside the US up to 2yrs. You have to maintain links to the US however, such as a residence, pay taxes etc. to show you don't intend abandoning your PR status. The abandonment issue is a grey area of Immigration law.

    There are areas of PR law which don't make a lot of sense. For example, if you marry a non-USC, you can file an I-130 but it'll take years for a visa number to be available, leaving you and your spouse apart for that time. Realistically you have to become a USC and even then it'll take a few months. Yet an H1 or L1 visa holder can apply for an H2 or L2 spousal visa and they both can enter and stay here (even kids too).

    I think the problem is a lot of the INA was made in the 1950s at a time when emigration was low and it took only weeks to complete applications. They didn't foresee waits of years for PR or Naturalization back then.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  5. #5
    Tough luck sheriff. If you really don't care about Ameica and it is just a place for a job, then get lost. Or just get a B-2. Thanks for nothing. No wonder people in the U.S. dislike immigrants. You can be so ungrateful.

  6. #6
    Oh and by the way, I used to specialize in taking green cards from the tourist/SSI fraudster set. It was great fun.

  7. #7
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sheriff:

    I therefore request you to change this harsh Rule and let all green card holders freely travel abroad as many times as they want.

    Let them stay abroad for as long as 5 years or even ten years

    There is no harm in allowing them to travel just as US citizens can travel abroad freely...

    If INS wants to check whether or not they still maintain their residency- let them make rule that all green card holders should file their tax returns and pay taxes.

    This one rule alone should be sufficient to retain their green card but no restriction on overseas travel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    FYI - USA has one of the most lax rules when it comes to being a resident and not living in the USA. Most countries allow 6 months and that's it, you are no longer resident if you stay outside the country more than that. Of course, you can always apply again...

    And, there is a rule that grenn card holders should file taxes in UAS no matter where they live.

  8. #8
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    Guest
    sheriff -- what a whining crybaby! If you don't like our regulations, then turn in your green card and go back to whatever d.unghole you came from.....a legal permanent resident is not an American citizen...and thus does not have all of the privileges that we do...and that's just tough. An LPR can easily obtain a reentry permit if he or she needs to be outside the US for more than a year....no big deal. Go buy a box of Kleenex and dry up your tears. Sniffle sniffle.

  9. #9
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Let them stay abroad for as long as 5 years or even ten years

    There is no harm in allowing them to travel just as US citizens can travel abroad freely... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Sheriff


    Just curious,
    How does your country handle the resident card for outside travel. US is one of the most lenient. Many outside countries say that you have abandoned residency if you leave before 2 years.

    The option of applying for citizenship was put in place for you. Yes you have to wait 5 yrs or 3yrs if based on marriage, but there has been a path provided. It seems that you have no patience and just want to be an instant citizen.

    So.. again.. tell us how your country handles it?

  10. #10
    Another possibility is that the OP has other commitments in other countries where he may be a Permanent resident.

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