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Thread: Claiming to be a citizen on I-9

  1. #1
    If someone checked the citizen/national block on an I-9 for employment prior to having greencard what is the penalty. This person has since become an American citizen in May 2007

  2. #2
    He has stated that I knew about it which I did not. But certainly two of the jobs were before his work authorization, third he did have work authorization but wasn't a citizen. I have read many court cases where they say citizen/national can be an honest mistake, hahahah. Nothing he does is by accident it was all well calculated and even ICE told me the dates are just perfect in execution. I'm exhausted honestly. Eight months of learning my life was a lie, he sexually assaulted my daughter, he has bruised my son and got away with it because Pa does not have child abuse laws, him and his lawyer told the police he did not have criminal intent when he held him down against his will and left 10 bites marks on his buttocks. So DA cannot prosecute without criminal intent. I have forwarded all documentation to the special agent in charge in Philadelphia. Maybe ICE will care but DA cannot do anything . Now my son who is 6 lives where I once lived, a life of fearing and loving his father. Sad part is I turned him over to his employer because I had to in order to apply for my clearance with the government again. All his criminal action, regardless of the outcome I have to show I turned them in. I pray I learn no more because I can't handle anymore. He took the 5th admendment in a custody hearing and was given unsupervised visitations. Judge said i married him, my fault, and regardless of his name or date of birth it is his biological father. I have just scanned over 300 documents today. In the next few days I will be trying to find the words and format to tell all my story in a clear and cohesive letter to foward with a copy of all documents scanned to all major networks, Lou Dobbs, Glen Beck, etc.. maybe they will pick it up. My DA's office is trying to get Dateline NBC to do a story. Local news here won't I tried but his attorney threatened to sue. Help if you can and if nothing else pray for safety for my children, truth, and justice

  3. #3
    Sounds like you really met up with a scoundrel. So sorry. If you ever need to talk, PM me.

  4. #4
    Originally posted by Robin Horton:
    If I knew how I would. Yes,I did. My Senator, Congressman, State Dept, FBI, local office of inspector general ofc, federal court judges, DA's office, State Reps have all worked well with me for 8 mths to get ICE to act responsibly. Pray they find the documents in India barring some natural disaster or they got lost. I put a 78 page package together and told them how to find the truth to all ten of his lies. Most of them I gave them the proof but told them to verify it themselves. If it is not appropriate I will understand but can you call me to teach me how to use this forum. I will call you back I have free unlimited long distance and people on this forum seem to have a clue about what is going on. I am so ashamed that I didn't know such things happened and my ignorance has harmed my children. I can barely look my daughter in the eye. She made the DA keep me out of the court room when she testified and he was formally arrianed for two felony2 charges and two misdemeanor2 charges, she didn't think I could handle all he did to her. I pray I can forgive myself one day. I confronted him and he didn't even deny he just offered me 10k saying that his son and I could use the money and it would save my daughter the embarassment of a trial.
    Robin,
    Remove your phone number please. This is a public forum and any person with the wrong intentions can harass you further. PM the phone number if you must, but leave personal info out of any public discussion group please.

    I am sorry that you had a bad relationship experience. If the guy has sexually assaulted your daughter, there should be medical proof of some kind. As for the I-9, it will depend on when he signed the form. Later versions are more clear than prevous ones. The I9 has been in existence since 1986.

    Finally, you need to present your case on facts without the pretense of "getting revenge" or a "disgruntled relationship." It will make your case more beliebable.

    I hope this helps.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  5. #5
    Hudson, I have nothing to be ashamed of or to hide. Yes, there was enough evidence for him to formally charged and arrainged from two felony2 charges, and two misdameanor2 charges,it will take 2 years to go to trail because of the back log and his attorney's motions, trying to stall and buy time. I am ashamed not vengeful. I brought an innocent child into the world and someday he will know what his father is and did. That is a conversation I don't even know where to begin. My daughter who begged me not to marry him has been irreversibly harmed for life. When I asked him sincerely "did you do this" he offered me additional money in the Marital Settlement agreement, saying he would rather his son and I had the money and spare my daughter the embarassment of a trial, does that sound like the words of an innocent man? Did to me, I wanted him to hit me say He** no are you crazy, I could not do such a thing. But instead he offered me money. His culture and world money busy everything even identities. I have many great Indian friends and those who have immigrated from all over the world. I welcome them, they are decent hard working people who will give back to this country not just steal it cheat at any cost for selfish reasons. In fact my Indian freinds have all said he makes them ashamed for he makes them look bad by his actions. This is not about immigrations per say this is about people. Bad people come in all shapes, colors and sizes and yes the United States of America has it's fair share of bad people and that is why justice is law exist to put bad people where they belong in jail.

  6. #6
    Funny for years I lived in fear of him and still had love and believe he was the person I thought he was. I stayed and allowed myself to be abused because he begged me to have a child at 40, one I adore and almost cost me my life. Our son who is the most wonderful and only good thing that came out of this marriage has been sickly since birth. His medical records are 3.5 volumes long. First two years he was not even allowed out of the house, from 2 to 3 years they thought he had autism. I worked night and day with specialist and giving him the best possible care any parent can give a child. His father out going to parties and when home fighting and harming me. After getting the courage to toss him out my daughter in the heat of an arguement on the very night my brother passed away, which we did not know until the following morning of his death, I learn that he sexually assaulted my daughter. Yet, you think I am vengeful. Had it been me I'd walk long and far away, I cannot children have been harmed here.. He abused his own son physically just two weeks after being formally charged and arraigned for two felony2 charges for his acts against my daughter. Two choices I had when I woke up finally, either live in fear of him for all my life or fight and try to make the system work. Even decent illegal immigrants should not want people like this in America. Regardless of shape, color, nationality bad people exist. Not only Americans, Chinese, Japanese, etc... This is a bad person not about immigrations issue. I want the laws to protect those who are decent, honest, hard working and have committed no crimes to harm others to get or remain in this country. Would I have sposored him initially if I thought he was a bad person?

  7. #7
    Since when is justice considered revenge?

  8. #8
    Originally posted by Hudson:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Robin Horton:
    If I knew how I would. Yes,I did. My Senator, Congressman, State Dept, FBI, local office of inspector general ofc, federal court judges, DA's office, State Reps have all worked well with me for 8 mths to get ICE to act responsibly. Pray they find the documents in India barring some natural disaster or they got lost. I put a 78 page package together and told them how to find the truth to all ten of his lies. Most of them I gave them the proof but told them to verify it themselves. If it is not appropriate I will understand but can you call me to teach me how to use this forum. I am so ashamed that I didn't know such things happened and my ignorance has harmed my children. I can barely look my daughter in the eye. She made the DA keep me out of the court room when she testified and he was formally arrianed for two felony2 charges and two misdemeanor2 charges, she didn't think I could handle all he did to her. I pray I can forgive myself one day. I confronted him and he didn't even deny he just offered me 10k saying that his son and I could use the money and it would save my daughter the embarassment of a trial.
    Robin,
    Remove your phone number please. This is a public forum and any person with the wrong intentions can harass you further. PM the phone number if you must, but leave personal info out of any public discussion group please.

    I am sorry that you had a bad relationship experience. If the guy has sexually assaulted your daughter, there should be medical proof of some kind. As for the I-9, it will depend on when he signed the form. Later versions are more clear than prevous ones. The I9 has been in existence since 1986.

    Finally, you need to present your case on facts without the pretense of "getting revenge" or a "disgruntled relationship." It will make your case more beliebable.

    I hope this helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

  9. #9
    How would you like to wake up almost 3 years into your marriage and find out the identity of the man you married and sponsored is a lie? To know something is one thing to be able to prove it is another. Why would God have allowed my nieghbor just 3 weeks after I finally had the courage to toss him out find his N-400 application which did give me something legitimate to approach ICE with? Why did my daughter in the heat of an arguement tell me what he had done to her. Why did I learn through a co-worker the he had been getting hotel/meals expense checks for three years witout telling me. Why did he take me off bank accounts, credit cards, obtain a P.O. Box less than 24 hours after he met the conditional period. I didn't even know these things until they were pointed out to me. How can anyone here judge my motives. I have a sickly child to support now and this man has harmed both my children, one is his own child. Without turning over all I know I cannot meet the requirements to return back to my job with the Federal Govt because of needing my securtiy clearance. So my children and I are victims and you dare to say I am vendictive. No I seek safety for my children, truth, and justice. Can you think of any possible reason that someone would take the 5th amendment during a custody hearing on their name and date of birth? any logical reason other than that is not their identity. Do not judge unless you know the extent of harm this person has done to many people. Selfish actions. Sorry I have broken your rules out here but I thought perhaps decent people regardless of race, color, or religion still belived in justice for all, even victims

  10. #10
    Hello

    I am answering your Pm in the forum.

    One thread should have told your story
    You mention details about various things in so many different threads. everybody does not read all the threads. Frankly, when we see a member post this many threads, most do not bother reading more than one of them.
    <span class="ev_code_RED">First.. checking the I9 will not remove citizenship. First the forms would have to be recovered, and a benefit would have had to be received. Most of the I9 forms at that time were worded in a way that would not stand up to the false citizenship test.</span>


    In this thread. start again and list the timelines etc.

    timeline of marriage to 1st greencard, removal of conditions date, and application of N-400 based on marriage to you in 11/05. Citizeship granted in 5/27/2007. When problems started in marriage, threats etc , seperation date and when filed for divorce. sexual assault of daughter and physical abuse of son dates. Police called and disposition of case.

    Why was he not arrested in the sexual assualt onyour daughter.. How old is your daughter and why did she not tell you when it occured.?

    I am assuming that you are here on the forum asking how to get his citzenship revoked. Well it is very difficult to get citizeship revoked short of him being a nazi or spy/treason.

    YOu should list 1-10 in this same thread identifying what you think are the fraud criteria prior or during the citizenship application process. I think I read that you said he is not the person that he claimed to be???? does he have someone else's papers?

    In anyway, was there ever a protection from abuse filed against him from yourself or your daughter?

    Where is he now



    Let the other threads die and eventually they will fall to the next page.



    I gather that you are just here for support, because it appears that you have contacted the proper authorities and notified ICE and Uscis.

    Hudson has stated, and I am sure others including myself think that counseling would be helpful to you and certainly to your daughter because you both have been violated. Counseling does not mean that something is wrong with you. You are frustrated, and you will become even more frustrated if nothing is being done to show that you as an american citizen cannot be protected or can seek justice.


    anwer those questions above when you outline the timeline. Use this thread. YOu can change the title if you wish using the edit function.


    I know it looks like you are obsessed, but in all fairness, it is just frustration and in hopes of getting some answers and assurance.

    Provide the information and we will do the best that we can to give you advice.

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