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Thread: The Myth of immigration and crime

  1. #1
    The Myth of Immigrant Criminality and the Paradox of Assimilation: Incarceration Rates among Native and Foreign-Born Men

    by Ruben G. Rumbaut, Ph.D. and Walter A. Ewing, Ph.D.
    Because many immigrants to the United States, especially Mexicans and Central Americans, are young men who arrive with very low levels of formal education, popular stereotypes tend to associate them with higher rates of crime and incarceration. The fact that many of these immigrants enter the country through unauthorized channels or overstay their visas often is framed as an assault against the rule of law, thereby reinforcing the impression that immigration and criminality are linked. This association has flourished in a post-9/11 climate of fear and ignorance where terrorism and undocumented immigration often are mentioned in the same breath.

    However, data from the census and other sources show that for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those who are the least educated. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population. The problem of crime in the United States is not caused or even aggravated by immigrants, regardless of their legal status. But the misperception that the opposite is true persists among policymakers, the media, and the general public, thereby undermining the development of reasoned public responses to both crime and immigration.
    Among the findings of this report:

    *Even as the undocumented population has doubled to 12 million since 1994, the violent crime rate in the United States has declined 34.2 percent and the property crime rate has fallen 26.4 percent.

    *Among men age 18-39 (who comprise the vast majority of the prison population), the 3.5 percent incarceration rate of the native-born in 2000 was 5 times higher than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of the foreign-born.

    *The foreign-born incarceration rate in 2000 was nearly two-and-a-half times less than the 1.7 percent rate for native-born non-Hispanic white men and almost 17 times less than the 11.6 percent rate for native-born black men.

    *Foreign-born Mexicans had an incarceration rate of only 0.7 percent in 2000more than 8 times lower than the 5.9 percent rate of native-born males of Mexican descent. Foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men had an incarceration rate of 0.5 percent, compared to 3.0 percent of native-born males of Salvadoran and Guatemalan descent.

    *Foreign-born Chinese/Taiwanese men had an extremely low incarceration rate of 0.2 percent in 2000, which was three-and-a-half times lower than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of native-born men of Chinese/Taiwanese descent.

    *With the exception of Laotians and Cambodians, foreign-born men from Asian countries had lower incarceration rates than those from Latin American countries, as did their native-born counterparts.

    *The children and grandchildren of many immigrantsas well as many immigrants themselves the longer they live in the United Statesbecome subject to economic and social forces, such as higher rates of family disintegration and drug and alcohol addiction, that increase the likelihood of criminal behavior among other natives.

    *The risk of incarceration is higher not only for the children of immigrants, but for immigrants themselves the longer they have resided in the United States. However, even immigrants who had resided in the United States for 16+ years were far less likely to be incarcerated than their native-born counterparts.
    Source
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

  2. #2
    Is it because those that come to the USA the main purpose is to start a new life... a better life... and not much chance of doing that in jail ..... There sense of purpose is different than those born in this country... they have seen the other side of the coin so to speak....?.

  3. #3
    Please don't tell all this to SomeDumb12 or SkunkDevilUSA. Let them keep thinking that immigrants are evil...

  4. #4
    45% of all offenses were drug or IMMIGRATION OFFENSES, take the immigration asspect out of it all and what % is left? And its correct the statement "Some criminologists attribute the rise in crime to illegal aliens who come into the United States with a criminal background." Just because they are running from their own governments doesnt mean they are going to be better here.... means that they are still criminals dont matter what corner of this earth they are standing...a leopard cant change its spots....

  5. #5
    REPORT: IMMIGRANT-CRIME LINK A MYTH
    "The notion that more immigrants means more crime is a stereotype, according to a report released Monday." News-Times, Feb. 27, 2007.
    http://www.newstimeslive.com/news/story.php?id=1032686



    IMMIGRANT GAME AT N.Y.U. DRAWS PROTESTERS
    "A game called "Catch the Illegal Immigrant" staged on New York University's campus by a student Republican group drew several hundred students yesterday. But most came to protest the game, not to play it." New York Times, Feb. 23, 2007. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/ny...=1&oref=slogin

    GAME WITH NO WINNERS
    "Catch the Immigrant" also reflects a larger misunderstanding of the immigration issue. The more than 11 million illegal immigrants cannot be caught. Even if they could be, rounding them up and deporting them would be disastrous, economically and socially. Educators should teach the game players about the real world." New York Times Editorial, Feb. 27, 2007.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/opinion/27tue2.html

  6. #6
    Originally posted by Hudson:
    The Myth of Immigrant Criminality and the Paradox of Assimilation: Incarceration Rates among Native and Foreign-Born Men

    by Ruben G. Rumbaut, Ph.D. and Walter A. Ewing, Ph.D.
    Because many immigrants to the United States, especially Mexicans and Central Americans, are young men who arrive with very low levels of formal education, popular stereotypes tend to associate them with higher rates of crime and incarceration. The fact that many of these immigrants enter the country through unauthorized channels or overstay their visas often is framed as an assault against the rule of law, thereby reinforcing the impression that immigration and criminality are linked. This association has flourished in a post-9/11 climate of fear and ignorance where terrorism and undocumented immigration often are mentioned in the same breath.

    However, data from the census and other sources show that for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those who are the least educated. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population. The problem of crime in the United States is not caused or even aggravated by immigrants, regardless of their legal status. But the misperception that the opposite is true persists among policymakers, the media, and the general public, thereby undermining the development of reasoned public responses to both crime and immigration.
    Among the findings of this report:

    *Even as the undocumented population has doubled to 12 million since 1994, the violent crime rate in the United States has declined 34.2 percent and the property crime rate has fallen 26.4 percent.

    *Among men age 18-39 (who comprise the vast majority of the prison population), the 3.5 percent incarceration rate of the native-born in 2000 was 5 times higher than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of the foreign-born.

    *The foreign-born incarceration rate in 2000 was nearly two-and-a-half times less than the 1.7 percent rate for native-born non-Hispanic white men and almost 17 times less than the 11.6 percent rate for native-born black men.

    *Foreign-born Mexicans had an incarceration rate of only 0.7 percent in 2000more than 8 times lower than the 5.9 percent rate of native-born males of Mexican descent. Foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men had an incarceration rate of 0.5 percent, compared to 3.0 percent of native-born males of Salvadoran and Guatemalan descent.

    *Foreign-born Chinese/Taiwanese men had an extremely low incarceration rate of 0.2 percent in 2000, which was three-and-a-half times lower than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of native-born men of Chinese/Taiwanese descent.

    *With the exception of Laotians and Cambodians, foreign-born men from Asian countries had lower incarceration rates than those from Latin American countries, as did their native-born counterparts.

    *The children and grandchildren of many immigrantsas well as many immigrants themselves the longer they live in the United Statesbecome subject to economic and social forces, such as higher rates of family disintegration and drug and alcohol addiction, that increase the likelihood of criminal behavior among other natives.

    *The risk of incarceration is higher not only for the children of immigrants, but for immigrants themselves the longer they have resided in the United States. However, even immigrants who had resided in the United States for 16+ years were far less likely to be incarcerated than their native-born counterparts.
    Source
    if some "illegal aliens" become criminals here.....
    I think, they do it just to.......
    respect the American tradition
    roco

  7. #7
    When an illegal alien commits a crime it becomes "news" mostly because of the illegal status of the offender. It becomes another vehicle for people who favor immigration restrictions, it becomes news, something to talk about, something to heat up the debate. This sells newspapers, magazines, gets people in front of the television to watch the news, gives talk show hosts something to chew on while they wait for their next story. Look at the Peterson case. Another woman from the same locality also "vanished" in very strange and somewhat similar circumstances, but that lady was a poor immigrant, so it didn't make a good "story", the case turned cold and nobody seemed to care. There was no prime time specials on that lady, no 20/20 story, no special edition reports. Cases like these, unappealing to the media, are never brought up to the public attention, they "never happened" in the minds of many.

    We hear about that illegal immigrant who stole a car, but we don't hear about the other 10 million illegal immigrants who act in good faith on a daily basis. We don't hear about the other 300 folks who stole a car the same day but who are not illegal immigrants, we don't hear about the thousands of citizens who leave the country to avoid taxation. We hear about the raids, but we don't pay attention to the criminal charges being brought on many who run slave-like camps for prostitution and other reprehensible activities.

    We all "agree" that's fair to impose immigration penalties retroactively, that's accepted; but we also agree that retroactively eliminating pensions for public servants convicted of a felony is a violation of the Constitution...

    It's nothing more than a selective view and a double standard.

  8. #8
    Police make arrest in deadly I-91 crash

    Posted Feb. 26, 2007
    5:30 PM

    (Wallingford-WTNH) _ Twenty-nine year old Israel Quintero arrived to court Monday in a wheelchair. He is facing numerous charges in the crash that claimed the life of a West Haven minister.

    The INS is now involved and there are allegations that the man should never have been behind the wheel in the first place.

    Police say Quintero was not only driving drunk, but heading the wrong way on I-91 in Wallingford when he slammed head on into a car driven by 40-year old Alan Boome.

    Quintero's friends did not want to talk to News Channel 8 outside of court, but according to court documents, troopers on the scene discovered a 12-pack of beer in Quintero's minivan. According to the affidavit Quintero admitted to police he drank six Mondelo beers while driving around before the crash, but he does not remember anything in regards to the accident.

    It appears Quintero is in the country illegally. Police say he only has a Mexican identification card and no Connecticut
    driver's license. INS has been notified about the case.

    Quintero is charged with second degree manslaughter with a motor vehicle, as well as having an illegal license plate, an unregistered car and no insurance.

    Boome was a Pentecostal minister at the House of God Church in New Haven. He was on his way to work as a counselor with the Department of Mental Retardation when the collision occurred. He died instantly.

  9. #9
    Set the statistics aside and spend a morning or two in a criminal court here in California. Every other defendant needs a Spanish language interpreter and the bilingual Public defenders are working overtime.

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