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Thread: ? Postville: Ground Zero on the Immigration Debate ?

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    <span class="ev_code_RED">Here's one for the bigots</span>

    Truth or Consequences

  2. #2
    <span class="ev_code_RED">Here's one for the bigots</span>

    Truth or Consequences

  3. #3
    Talking about slavery.... Slavery was the law of the land, so there was nothing wrong in supporting it I guess.

    How absurd.

  4. #4
    <span class="ev_code_RED">I support legal immigration and the law. However, there needs to be an actual plan implemented that addresses and solves this massive and growing problem.

    Don't you agree? </span>

  5. #5
    You forget davdah that past US Governments, Republican and Democrat have turned a blind eye to the illegal immigrant issue over the years. This isn't something that just started happening, it goes back decades. We're now paying the price of inaction.

    Finding them, rounding them up and deporting them all isn't the answer. Secure the borders, then find a resolution to this problem. The only way forward is some form of legalization for those are guilty of nothing more than trying to support their families.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  6. #6
    Not all illegal immigrants are criminals and not all legal immigrants are not criminals. In fact a lot of illegal immigrants contribute more to this country than legal immigrants. But of course some people will say, illegal is illegal...

  7. #7
    <span class="ev_code_RED">When the Government prosecutes a murder suspect, they often cut a plea bargain, guaranteeing a reduced sentence in exchange for co-operation.

    Since the immigration problem was permitted to get so out of hand, the Government bares some of the responsibilities for the problem. What is the point of having laws, if we are not prepared to enforce them?

    Considering the fact that in reality there will be no 20,000,000 deportations, America needs to cut a plea bargain. If each alien was required to pay a fine of say $5,000 to $10,000 to register, and be required to start paying taxes. We would then have everyone's finger prints, millions of new tax payers, and huge lump sum of much needed cash, much less crime, no more slave labor, etc.

    After that, the borders need to be secured once and for all. </span>

  8. #8
    At least there's a glimmer of hope in the horizon. The people have spoken and spoken aloud that enough is enough of the era of indifference and incompetence. It may not be quick, it may not be all-encompassing out right, but sometimes change starts small. But small or something, anything, is better than nothing at all.

  9. #9
    Imo,we have passed the mass.deportation phase in this debate.

    I can't say I really agree with legalization but if it would get the d a m n Congress to do something about the problem then so be it.It is very obvious what must be done judging by the facts.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Seems this is igniting a debate. The fact is every illegal immigrant is a criminal They violated US laws and sovereignty by entering and staying in our country. Most illegals are an economic drain on society. They deflate wages as is exemplified by the original post. They cause problems for those who did follow protocol in the immigration process by clogging it with endless appeals and legal nonsense instead of doing what is right, leaving. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Wrong. There is a distinction on how the person became an illegal immigrant. If it were through EWI then yes, that is considered a crime. Even so, it's a misdemeanor crime similar to a DUI. Visa overstay is thought to account for about 50% of illegals. In that case it is considered a civil misdemeanor.

    "Under the Act, "illegal alien" may mean an alien who has illegally entered the country, which is a criminal offense under 1325, or an alien who legally entered but is illegally present in the United States, which may be only a civil violation."
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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