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Thread: Tent City USA

  1. #1
    http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/au...aedte/story/14379406

    This just in... It's in German, but I have not heard anything about this here yet. According to the article ABC reported about it. Tent Cities are establised on the periphery of many US cities especially in areas with mild climates. The report mentioning that several hundered formally middle class families are moving into Tent City USA.

    Is America becoming a 3rd World Country because of all the greed and unwillingness to recognize that we all need to live with and for each other and share?
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  2. #2
    http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/au...aedte/story/14379406

    This just in... It's in German, but I have not heard anything about this here yet. According to the article ABC reported about it. Tent Cities are establised on the periphery of many US cities especially in areas with mild climates. The report mentioning that several hundered formally middle class families are moving into Tent City USA.

    Is America becoming a 3rd World Country because of all the greed and unwillingness to recognize that we all need to live with and for each other and share?
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  3. #3
    koller,

    We don't have the resources anymore to feed ourselves let alone the world.

    Yes, most definately I think in my life time we will become a third world country.

    Laws are no longer being enforced and the corruption is growing. If it looks like a duck, quack like a duck, chances are it's a duck.

    So for those who lied, abused, and cheated a nation who does welcome all without regard to the long term consequences, congradulations your contributing to making the U.S. much like the countries you have fled from. Not only for the honest immigrants but the citizens of this country that your actions/deeds have raped what once was truly a great nation.

    Again I have NO problem with helping those who do not understand the system. I am american and I didn't even understand, nor was I explained all procedures when using a high powered immigrations attorney. So HELP those who have done no harm, made innocent honest mistakes, but don't continue to offer and give advice on how to beat the system.

    Continuing to beat the system, or cheat the system will eventually have us all living in tent cities.

  4. #4
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Robin Horton:
    koller,

    We don't have the resources anymore to feed ourselves let alone the world.

    Yes, most definately I think in my life time we will become a third world country.

    Laws are no longer being enforced and the corruption is growing. If it looks like a duck, quack like a duck, chances are it's a duck.

    So for those who lied, abused, and cheated a nation who does welcome all without regard to the long term consequences, congradulations your contributing to making the U.S. much like the countries you have fled from. Not only for the honest immigrants but the citizens of this country that your actions/deeds have raped what once was truly a great nation.

    Again I have NO problem with helping those who do not understand the system. I am american and I didn't even understand, nor was I explained all procedures when using a high powered immigrations attorney. So HELP those who have done no harm, made innocent honest mistakes, but don't continue to offer and give advice on how to beat the system.

    Continuing to beat the system, or cheat the system will eventually have us all living in tent cities. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    OK, let's start sieving the cheats out. I think it is rather easy to do, just have every American apply to USCIS (as though they were to immigrate to the US). I'd say 2/3 of the population will be turned back at the port of entry.
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  5. #5
    I wouldn't be so negative about it. I think it's largely temporary. When the economy picks up the tents will disappear. But it is a sad reflection on a Nation that seems to be unable or unwilling to care for it's own. In other countries, even in bad times, you don't see this kind of thing going on as much. That's because they have a social welfare net that allows people to stay in their own homes while rent and basics are covered from government welfare or there are government run shelters or housing. The US doesn't have this so the only option for those without family or friends is to buy a tent and camp out. Really sad.

    Most Americans don't like government much or paying taxes so this is what happens when things go bad. If you don't like it, then change it.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  6. #6
    We did change it - we opted/voted democrat and for change. It's still in baby-shoes, but it's going to take hold soon.


    It is really sad. In earlier days when America portrait herself to the outside one could only think this is (Voltair's Eldorado). However, when coming here you were faced with reality, i.e. the beggers in the street, the imperfections everywhere, the uneducatedness, the dirt and realized that America is really nothing else but a big, big lie!

    It's like my father always said - he himself was an immigrant to the "western world", it doesn't matter where you go, you'll have to work and pay taxes.
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  7. #7
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
    http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/au...aedte/story/14379406

    This just in... It's in German, but I have not heard anything about this here yet. According to the article ABC reported about it. Tent Cities are establised on the periphery of many US cities especially in areas with mild climates. The report mentioning that several hundered formally middle class families are moving into Tent City USA.

    Is America becoming a 3rd World Country because of all the greed and unwillingness to recognize that we all need to live with and for each other and share? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



    Show me where in the constitution that says we are living for each other or with or need to share. That is socialism. This country isn't that at all. Everything this country stood for was about giving people the opportunity to succeed. Not about creating a welfare state.

    The problem is the people. Instead of looking to themselves for the solution they are looking to government. Yes, I am saying it. They are lazy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Davdah, you know I really like you - and I am going to have to poor you a glass of clear wine.

    The constitution doesn't say that - true. The constitution is a more than 200 year old document. The people that created it meant well, and I comment them for it!

    Change is the only constant - that's a fact. As a conservative, you are going to have to face the fact that the constitution needs to be amended. It's an outdated writ!

    Change is possible. Look no further than Europe. 50 years ago, the countries there were at odds with each other, now we are a Union/Community. They use the same money - we band together we are stronger for it - that counts for the individual too.

    Socialism as Marx thought it up doesn't work. Communism as Lenin had thought about it doesn't work either. Capitalism by itself doesn't work either. We have to find the middle ground - our intelligence dictates that we do that.

    Cheers!!!
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The problem is the people. Instead of looking to themselves for the solution they are looking to government. Yes, I am saying it. They are lazy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    What do you suggest those living in a tent do davdah?
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  9. #9
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The problem is the people. Instead of looking to themselves for the solution they are looking to government. Yes, I am saying it. They are lazy. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    What do you suggest those living in a tent do davdah? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The problem here is that these people are probably not even so undereducated, but they have no way to turn to government. Government here is structured that only the very low income people can take advantage of social services. Once you make a certain amount of money, you loose your job, the economy isn't ready to give you another one, you'r 6 month unemployment insurance runs out - you don't qualify for anything and you sit in the street.
    “...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire

  10. #10
    Hear, hear Koller. I doubt all of the "tent people" are slackers and ***s. I suspect most are victims of Big Wall St and Big Business downsizing. Why else would tent cities be suddenly springing up all over?

    Anything can happen in the blink of an eye. Just last week I found myself in hospital for 2 days and now looking at a $3k+ bill (and that's with insurance). Debt is all around and it doesn't always follow that it's your fault davdah.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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