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Thread: U.S. Needs Fair and Enforceable Immigration Policy

  1. #1
    U.S. needs fair and enforceable immigration policy

    Wednesday, November 14, 2007

    There are rumors going around that undocumented immigrants living in Camden and neighboring areas are making plans to move to New York State. The reason is that legislators in New York are considering granting drivers' licenses to those without authorization to remain in this country.

    Regardless of the real application of such a measure, many people who are thinking of turning in that direction are being moved by a mere illusion. In the darkened crevices where undocumented immigrants live, they tend to get excited by any hint of light, even if it may be weak or illusory. This excitement turns into disappointment and deception time and time again. Several renowned lawyers, including columnists Manfred Rosenow and Beverly Black, consistently warn about unscrupulous notaries and lawyers who make personal profit from rumors, irrelevant measures and press releases about planned reforms. These people use the deceit of these projects to **** dry those who grab onto any remote or unreal possibility to normalize their situation.

    In a word

    To this point, I have not deliberately used the words "undocumented" and "illegal" to refer to those who do not have papers to remain in this country. There has been a long debate regarding the use of these terms. Rosenow made clear the meanings of these two words in a recent column about American immigration law. According to Rosenow, any foreigner who enters this country with a visa or permit from the American government and stays in the country longer than the allotted time becomes illegal. In contrast, those who enter the United States without authorization are called undocumented. There are substantial legal differences between each status.

    For example, illegal immigrants can request American citizenship through immediate relatives, such as a spouse. Undocumented immigrants cannot do this. Illegal and undocumented immigrants belong to the same group, exposed to persecution and legal judgment, and even mistreatment by those who feel aversion toward foreigners, particularly the poor. Ironically, more than a few will benefit and profit in the United States from this group of people.

    It is well-known that existing laws are not integrated into a consistent and modern societal system, which impedes authorities from doing their job efficiently. Millions of dollars are spent persecuting illegal and undocumented immigrants, but the number does not decrease. On the contrary, data seem to indicate the numbers increase daily.

    Does this mean immigration authorities are negligent? No. Simply put, the immigration problem is out of control. The existing legal chaos not only makes the work of authorities inefficient, but foreigners also lack the means to defend their legal and human rights.

    Illegal and undocumented immigrants belong to an army of wage-earners who work millions of hours daily. Yet, without a legal status, the vast majority earns low salaries while working shameful schedules under humiliating conditions.

    Many of these workers are making contributions to social security, but have no right to claim them later in life. They lack medical insurance, cannot attend college, obtain a mortgage or aspire to retirement.

    Landlords usually charge them higher rents and do not maintain their buildings, which become inadequate and dangerous.

    Frequently, as it happens in Camden, criminals feed on this group, turning them into their favorite crime victims. They are prime targets for assaults, given that without a bank account or private places to keep their valuables safe, undocumented and illegal immigrants carry with them everything they earn. Besides, they usually do not dare to seek protection from authorities for fear of deportation.

    No panacea

    I think this calamitous situation cannot be solved with states granting drivers' licenses. A driver's license does not make a person less illegal or undocumented. In other words, they will continue to be the target of immigration authorities and abusers. A driver's license is one of the most important legal documents in the United States, becoming a personal identification card by default. It is reliable because strict requirements must be met before application. If the driver's license is to continue to be a reliable document, these requirements must continue to be met.

    What the country urgently needs is a deep, comprehensive, consistent and fair immigration law. This reform should not lead us to new forms of inequality under the law. If American citizens and legal residents have to meet strict requirements to obtain a driver's license and others do not, a form of discrimination is being established. This type of discrimination is not positive, just as affirmative action for college education is not positive. This type of discrimination is not only unfair, but also discourages personal effort, thus promoting mediocrity.

    What minorities really need, particularly immigrants, are opportunities, but they must also realize their personal fight is needed to gain equality and success in life.

    Is this difficult? Of course it is, but it is the only way.

    When I talk about seeking immigration laws that are fair and adequate for these times, I am not saying these measures should only suit the needs of illegal and undocumented immigrants, but they should not violate their fundamental rights either.

    The value of the euro is making Europe a desirable relocation for many immigrants nowadays. However, experts claim the United States will continue to be for a long time the most appealing emigration target in the world. It is time for migration movements to be part of the priorities in discussions under the globalization framework. The United States should begin by exercising its worldwide leadership in this area so the subject is addressed urgently.

    This country must implement truly serious measures that are effective, fair and do not carry the seeds of hate. Only this will bring order to the land.

    The writer is a columnist for the Courier-Post. His column appears on Wednesdays.

  2. #2
    I agree with the contents of you post, are you the author ?

  3. #3
    thats all very true indeed. some people should really take that to mind aswell.

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    Someone12
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    illegal aliens (or "undocumented" for you pansies) have NO right to be in the US of A...none...and the idea of 'fair immigration reform' always seems to lead back to rewarding those who have shown ZERO respect for our laws from the moment they set foot in this country...fair? to whom? to the untold thousands who are waiting their turn to immigrate and/or work/study legally in the US? How is it 'fair' to grant any form of relief to illegals? Dole them out a green card because they find a village idiot on the loose? Sorry....I say give 'em all a year to leave, face a 2 year bar to readmission, and thereafter they can apply for (and qualify for, in every respect) some kind of visa...and for those who don't take this opportunity, well,they (fairly, I might add) become deportable FELONS, subject to immediate deportation when they cross paths with any authority, and then barred forever from legally entering the US of A...that's 'fair'

  5. #5
    Originally posted by susie:
    I agree with the contents of you post, are you the author ?
    No, Susie, I'm not the author. I saw this article yesterday and thought it was worthy of posting. I truly agree with "This country must implement truly serious measures that are effective, fair and do not carry the seeds of hate. Only this will bring order to the land".
    I believe it is imperative that all humans be treated with dignity and respect, regardless of their race, status, religion affiliation, etc. I believe this article brought home some of these points.

  6. #6
    illegal aliens (or "undocumented" for you pansies) have NO right to be in the US of A...none...
    You know, S12, you say you have a very high IQ, but you still don't get it. The illegal aliens are HERE! Face it. There's no way our government has the capacity to round up and deport 12 - 20M people. It's inconceivable. Rather than focusing on the impossible, isn't it more practical to find humane solutions to deal with the situation? All of your rants and tirades do nothing more than expose the hatred and intolerance you are carrying within. Hatred does nothing more than breed contempt. It has never solved anything.

    Rant on, S12. It's a free country, after all. If you get satisfaction out of coming here and bullying people, then your high IQ is being wasted and your words are falling on deaf ears.

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    What the country urgently needs is a deep, comprehensive, consistent and fair immigration law. This reform should not lead us to new forms of inequality under the law. <span class="ev_code_RED">If American citizens and legal residents have to meet strict requirements to obtain a driver's license and others do not, a form of discrimination is being established.</span> This type of discrimination is not positive, just as affirmative action for college education is not positive. This type of discrimination is not only unfair, but also discourages personal effort, thus promoting mediocrity.



    Duh
    Where do they get these people from

  8. #8
    Originally posted by 4now:
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What the country urgently needs is a deep, comprehensive, consistent and fair immigration law. This reform should not lead us to new forms of inequality under the law. <span class="ev_code_RED">If American citizens and legal residents have to meet strict requirements to obtain a driver's license and others do not, a form of discrimination is being established.</span> This type of discrimination is not positive, just as affirmative action for college education is not positive. This type of discrimination is not only unfair, but also discourages personal effort, thus promoting mediocrity.



    Duh
    Where do they get these people from </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    4Now - I guess what you quoted is subject to interpretation, but I took it to mean the discrimination would be against the American citizens, not the immigrants. I believe the author is referencing the now defunct Spitzer plan to give illegal aliens driver's licenses. What he was saying is that would be discriminatory to American citizens who have to abide by strict requirements in order to get one.

  9. #9
    Originally posted by davdah:
    There is one error in the letter. It is very possible to deport the entire lot of them. Actually its cheaper in the long run to do that then to legalize them. But that is always the problem. Short sited self serving fixes to a long term problem.
    I disagree that it's possible to deport all of them, Davdah. How can you deport someone when you don't know where they are? Anyway, I'd also be interested in the math related to how it is less expensive to deport them rather than provide a pathway to legalization (considering they will have fines, back taxes, filing fees, etc.).

  10. #10
    I still disagree about the ease of rounding them up; but, do agree that we probably don't need Doc Jose's drunk brother - lol. We don't need any more undesirables, legal or not, for that matter.

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