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  1. #1
    Most Americans support Arizona immigration law

    A new Washington Post/ABC poll finds that 58 percent of Americans support Arizona's tough new immigration law. Support is strongest among Republicans and independents, and least strong among Democrats, especially minority Democrats.

    Still, the support is qualified in some respects. Even as a majority of Americans back the measure which gives law enforcement officers authority to check the immigration status of people they have stopped or arrested 57 percent of Americans also favor giving illegal immigrants who are already in the country a chance to become legal, if they pay fines and meet other requirements. Almost half of Republicans polled also support the path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

    In another result that rubs against the logic of the Arizona law, just 46 percent of respondents agree that states should be able to make their own border policies.

    The poll also shows that many Americans do not approve of how President Obama is handling border issues. Fifty-one percent of respondents overall gave him negative ratings with 56 percent of independents disapproving of his handling of immigration. Obama announced last month that he would send 1,200 National Guard members to the border to help train Border Patrol officers.

    The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

    Liz Goodwin is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/...s_ynews/ynews_ts2661

  2. #2
    Most Americans support Arizona immigration law

    A new Washington Post/ABC poll finds that 58 percent of Americans support Arizona's tough new immigration law. Support is strongest among Republicans and independents, and least strong among Democrats, especially minority Democrats.

    Still, the support is qualified in some respects. Even as a majority of Americans back the measure which gives law enforcement officers authority to check the immigration status of people they have stopped or arrested 57 percent of Americans also favor giving illegal immigrants who are already in the country a chance to become legal, if they pay fines and meet other requirements. Almost half of Republicans polled also support the path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

    In another result that rubs against the logic of the Arizona law, just 46 percent of respondents agree that states should be able to make their own border policies.

    The poll also shows that many Americans do not approve of how President Obama is handling border issues. Fifty-one percent of respondents overall gave him negative ratings with 56 percent of independents disapproving of his handling of immigration. Obama announced last month that he would send 1,200 National Guard members to the border to help train Border Patrol officers.

    The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

    Liz Goodwin is a national affairs writer for Yahoo! News.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/...s_ynews/ynews_ts2661

  3. #3
    This just means that the majority support for SB 1070 should not be viewed plainly as a 'support' for it. But rather it's heavy with the connotation of general discontent with the status quo and with the federal government's inaction.

  4. #4
    All random surveys seem to have the same contradicting results, that's why. So the figures point to that without even venturing a guess.

  5. #5
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The poll also shows that many Americans do not approve of how President Obama is handling border issues. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    It hasn't changed since he took office.

  6. #6
    I GLADLY SIGNED THE PETITION IN THE STATE I LIVE IN AND SO DID MY NEIGHBORS. THIS PETITION IS LIKE THE ONE IN ARIZONA. For Someone12: LOVE YOUR OPINIONS!!!

  7. #7
    Hillary Clinton: U.S. Will Sue Over Arizona Immigration Law


    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the federal government will sue Arizona, challenging the state's tough new immigration law, which gives police power to stop and question anyone they suspect is in the country illegally.

    Clinton told an Ecuadorean television station earlier this month that the Justice Department, at President Obama's direction, "will be bringing a lawsuit." But she did not say on what grounds the U.S. would do so, and the Justice Department declined to confirm that such a case was going forward. But on Friday, a senior Obama administration official told CBS News a federal challenge to the law would be filed when the Justice Department finishes building a case.

    Clinton's remarks came as no surprise and another government source told the Washington Post "there is no reason to think" that her statement is incorrect. The Obama administration has indicated for weeks that a lawsuit is likely and the president himself has been highly critical of the law, which caused a storm of protest from immigrants-rights groups and various threats to boycott the state of Arizona. The American public, however, is divided on the law. A recent Quinnipiac University poll found 48 percent wanted a similar statute in their state, while 35 percent opposed such action.

    A video of Clinton's June 8 interview was distributed by the American Civil Liberties Union, which has been calling for a federal lawsuit, the Post said. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said she was "stunned and angered" to hear of Clinton's remarks, CNN reported. If the federal government intends to sue, Brewer said, "the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation."



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  8. #8
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 4now:
    Hillary Clinton: U.S. Will Sue Over Arizona Immigration Law


    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the federal government will sue Arizona, challenging the state's tough new immigration law, which gives police power to stop and question anyone they suspect is in the country illegally.

    Clinton told an Ecuadorean television station earlier this month that the Justice Department, at President Obama's direction, "will be bringing a lawsuit." But she did not say on what grounds the U.S. would do so, and the Justice Department declined to confirm that such a case was going forward. But on Friday, a senior Obama administration official told CBS News a federal challenge to the law would be filed when the Justice Department finishes building a case.

    Clinton's remarks came as no surprise and another government source told the Washington Post "there is no reason to think" that her statement is incorrect. The Obama administration has indicated for weeks that a lawsuit is likely and the president himself has been highly critical of the law, which caused a storm of protest from immigrants-rights groups and various threats to boycott the state of Arizona. The American public, however, is divided on the law. A recent Quinnipiac University poll found 48 percent wanted a similar statute in their state, while 35 percent opposed such action.

    A video of Clinton's June 8 interview was distributed by the American Civil Liberties Union, which has been calling for a federal lawsuit, the Post said. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said she was "stunned and angered" to hear of Clinton's remarks, CNN reported. If the federal government intends to sue, Brewer said, "the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation."



    source </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

    She just climbed up a notch on my ladder.

  9. #9
    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Still, the support is qualified in some respects. Even as a majority of Americans back the measure which gives law enforcement officers authority to [b]check the immigration status of people they have stopped or <span class="ev_code_RED">arrested</span>p/b] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Why would anybody be against law enforcement checking immigration status of someone that was arrested? Would you be against law enforcement running a background check for warrants, driving license offenses, previous arrests too... all of which are mentioned are standard procedure?

    Seriously, I am trying to understand the positions taken against these measures.

  10. #10
    There's nothing wrong in law enforcement being able to check the immigration status of a person if arrested. That already happens under the current Federal law and local authorities can do so by agreement with the DHS.

    The problem with SB 1070 is that it opens the door for potential abuse using profiling in order to stop and ask about immigration status of a person 4now. How does a cop determine on sight with no other clues as to who is illegal by "reasonable suspicion" alone? Who will they ask? A white person who speaks english or a brown person who doesn't speak much english? That is what I object to.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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