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Thread: immigrant ( illegal/legal) creats jobs

  1. #1
    illigal immigrant comes here , try to get legal Pay fees to attorney = creats job

    INS /BCIS process the papers= creats jobs
    Law inforcement bussy inforcing, catching and detaining illegals, more law officers needed = creats jobs.

    Illegal have kids here who are born citizen. for their benifit agencies to help them for welfare or WIC system , = creats jobs.
    kid goes to school and gets free food ,still need people to deliver and distribution = creats jobs.
    Congress impos taxes, which part of them goes to social agencies. comutation work = creates job.
    we have illegration immigration in peak, we are tightining our border and increased border petrol = more jobs.
    after 9/11 we took precautionary measures and changed INS to BCIS for security reason , we are narrow our sight to illegal immigrants, we are in the process of centralized the whole data base DACS system and upgrading the high system to track down the immigrant, registration was part of that, and Ar-11 is also part of that , many jobs are created to fulfill that requirement.
    IT sector also gets its share to upgrade the system.
    Billions are spend on the name of home land security = creats jobs. Illegals are still here, we cannot screen them unless we enter them into system or deport them. As mass deportation is not only costly but impossible, we have to make illegal aliens trackable. No one will come voluntrirly unless they have some profits, ( ligalization)
    LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
    Still Mass legalization is still inevitable, illegal problem is still standing against us like a giant elephant an costing us one way or another.
    still there is not other way to solve this problem, then why we did all the spending, are our politicians are barking on the wrong tree?
    write your opinion.

  2. #2
    illigal immigrant comes here , try to get legal Pay fees to attorney = creats job

    INS /BCIS process the papers= creats jobs
    Law inforcement bussy inforcing, catching and detaining illegals, more law officers needed = creats jobs.

    Illegal have kids here who are born citizen. for their benifit agencies to help them for welfare or WIC system , = creats jobs.
    kid goes to school and gets free food ,still need people to deliver and distribution = creats jobs.
    Congress impos taxes, which part of them goes to social agencies. comutation work = creates job.
    we have illegration immigration in peak, we are tightining our border and increased border petrol = more jobs.
    after 9/11 we took precautionary measures and changed INS to BCIS for security reason , we are narrow our sight to illegal immigrants, we are in the process of centralized the whole data base DACS system and upgrading the high system to track down the immigrant, registration was part of that, and Ar-11 is also part of that , many jobs are created to fulfill that requirement.
    IT sector also gets its share to upgrade the system.
    Billions are spend on the name of home land security = creats jobs. Illegals are still here, we cannot screen them unless we enter them into system or deport them. As mass deportation is not only costly but impossible, we have to make illegal aliens trackable. No one will come voluntrirly unless they have some profits, ( ligalization)
    LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
    Still Mass legalization is still inevitable, illegal problem is still standing against us like a giant elephant an costing us one way or another.
    still there is not other way to solve this problem, then why we did all the spending, are our politicians are barking on the wrong tree?
    write your opinion.
    Its a discussion, not a legal advise..

  3. #3
    wow! i was unaware of my writing mistakes. after reading again my own post , I know how you feel..
    Its a discussion, not a legal advise..

  4. #4
    Legal immigration=lawyers' fees and jobs (of course, we have too many lawyers anyway)
    law officers chasing illegal aliens=efforts diverted from catching terrorists, rapists, child molestors, murderers, and the like (except for the illegal aliens who are also these)
    No illegal aliens=Citizens and legal aliens with jobs=no need for welfare and lower taxes for everyone
    No illegal aliens=no illegal alien children who need special services such as bilingual ed and Headstart and divert money and effort from educating US citizens and LPRs
    No illegal aliens=emergency rooms and clinics that don't close down, and lower healthcare costs for those of us with insurance
    No illegal aliens=jobs and decent wages for recent legal immigrants and less educated citizens, because illegal aliens can't underbid them for jobs
    No illegal aliens=Homeland Security can concentrate its efforts on screening legal applicants and maybe actually catch terrorists, instead of having to chase and waste resources on illegal aliens who may or may not be terrorists, but have already shown themselves to be lawbreakers
    No illegal aliens=less ID theft and fraud, and the costs associated with them
    Registering or giving amnesty to illegal aliens=resources diverted from processing legal immigrants, meaning longer wait times for them
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them full access to welfare benefits, creating a massive number of new applicants
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them the ability to bring relatives, thus overburdening our already overburdened immigration system (as will as SSI, welfare, education and healthcare systems)

    We don't have to deport everyone, just make it uncomfortable and risky enough that most decide it's better to leave of their own volition. Enforcing the existing laws, particularly against employers, will go a long way to accomplishing that.

    Mass legalization is NOT inevitable. The sheer number of people involved argues against it--the numbers are the result of our last Amnesty. Even Mr. Bush, with all his popularity, has not been willing to risk political capital pushing another amnesty through Congress. As long as this jobless recovery continues to be jobless, and several million Americans are out of work, Congress and the President will find it very difficult to win public support for amnesty, and will be risking their jobs if they push it.
    Since economists are now saying the unemployment is due to structural changes in the economy, the high unemployment may last quite a while.

  5. #5
    Legal immigration=lawyers' fees and jobs (of course, we have too many lawyers anyway)
    law officers chasing illegal aliens=efforts diverted from catching terrorists, rapists, child molestors, murderers, and the like (except for the illegal aliens who are also these)
    No illegal aliens=Citizens and legal aliens with jobs=no need for welfare and lower taxes for everyone
    No illegal aliens=no illegal alien children who need special services such as bilingual ed and Headstart and divert money and effort from educating US citizens and LPRs
    No illegal aliens=emergency rooms and clinics that don't close down, and lower healthcare costs for those of us with insurance
    No illegal aliens=jobs and decent wages for recent legal immigrants and less educated citizens, because illegal aliens can't underbid them for jobs
    No illegal aliens=Homeland Security can concentrate its efforts on screening legal applicants and maybe actually catch terrorists, instead of having to chase and waste resources on illegal aliens who may or may not be terrorists, but have already shown themselves to be lawbreakers
    No illegal aliens=less ID theft and fraud, and the costs associated with them
    Registering or giving amnesty to illegal aliens=resources diverted from processing legal immigrants, meaning longer wait times for them
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them full access to welfare benefits, creating a massive number of new applicants
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them the ability to bring relatives, thus overburdening our already overburdened immigration system (as will as SSI, welfare, education and healthcare systems)

    We don't have to deport everyone, just make it uncomfortable and risky enough that most decide it's better to leave of their own volition. Enforcing the existing laws, particularly against employers, will go a long way to accomplishing that.

    Mass legalization is NOT inevitable. The sheer number of people involved argues against it--the numbers are the result of our last Amnesty. Even Mr. Bush, with all his popularity, has not been willing to risk political capital pushing another amnesty through Congress. As long as this jobless recovery continues to be jobless, and several million Americans are out of work, Congress and the President will find it very difficult to win public support for amnesty, and will be risking their jobs if they push it.
    Since economists are now saying the unemployment is due to structural changes in the economy, the high unemployment may last quite a while.

  6. #6
    Legal immigration=lawyers' fees and jobs (of course, we have too many lawyers anyway)
    law officers chasing illegal aliens=efforts diverted from catching terrorists, rapists, child molestors, murderers, and the like (except for the illegal aliens who are also these)
    No illegal aliens=Citizens and legal aliens with jobs=no need for welfare and lower taxes for everyone
    No illegal aliens=no illegal alien children who need special services such as bilingual ed and Headstart and divert money and effort from educating US citizens and LPRs
    No illegal aliens=emergency rooms and clinics that don't close down, and lower healthcare costs for those of us with insurance
    No illegal aliens=jobs and decent wages for recent legal immigrants and less educated citizens, because illegal aliens can't underbid them for jobs
    No illegal aliens=Homeland Security can concentrate its efforts on screening legal applicants and maybe actually catch terrorists, instead of having to chase and waste resources on illegal aliens who may or may not be terrorists, but have already shown themselves to be lawbreakers
    No illegal aliens=less ID theft and fraud, and the costs associated with them
    Registering or giving amnesty to illegal aliens=resources diverted from processing legal immigrants, meaning longer wait times for them
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them full access to welfare benefits, creating a massive number of new applicants
    Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them the ability to bring relatives, thus overburdening our already overburdened immigration system (as will as SSI, welfare, education and healthcare systems)

    We don't have to deport everyone, just make it uncomfortable and risky enough that most decide it's better to leave of their own volition. Enforcing the existing laws, particularly against employers, will go a long way to accomplishing that.

    Mass legalization is NOT inevitable. The sheer number of people involved argues against it--the numbers are the result of our last Amnesty. Even Mr. Bush, with all his popularity, has not been willing to risk political capital pushing another amnesty through Congress. As long as this jobless recovery continues to be jobless, and several million Americans are out of work, Congress and the President will find it very difficult to win public support for amnesty, and will be risking their jobs if they push it.
    Since economists are now saying the unemployment is due to structural changes in the economy, the high unemployment may last quite a while.

  7. #7
    right on the money .
    but how it will be possible " No illegal aliens"


    Enforcing the existing laws, particularly against employers, will go a long way to accomplishing that.

    This long way will cost long digits and number of illegals will increase too.

    We don't have to deport everyone, just make it uncomfortable and risky enough that most decide it's better to leave of their own volition.

    By doing this don't you think we will put our own lifeuncomfortable too. are you sure they will leave?

    Congress and the President will find it very difficult to win public support for amnesty, and will be risking their jobs if they push it.

    What is important? their job or the public who gave them that job? So ! the Job and presidental chair comes first. let the Americans goes to hell, we just keep imposing new taxes as long as my seat in intact? huh/..
    Many presidents are came and gone but due to this career thing, problem is still there.
    Its a discussion, not a legal advise..

  8. #8
    Aliba, are you related to acelaw??!!


    "law officers chasing illegal aliens=efforts diverted from catching terrorists, rapists, child molestors, murderers, and the like (except for the illegal aliens who are also these)"

    Crimes go unsolved, murders, rapes, DV, because of illegal immigrants!!!?? Rapists and child molestors go free because of illegals?? Don't think so.

    "No illegal aliens=Citizens and legal aliens with jobs=no need for welfare and lower taxes for everyone"

    No need for welfare!!! That's a good one! Citizens aren't on welfare??

    Why does our country ALLOW thousands of people do work here legally?? If illegal immigrants take all the jobs, then why does the country let people come here and work every year if there are no jobs!!??Citizens can't get jobs because of illegal immigrants?? Living in LA, the employment section of the paper IS NOT empty!!


    "No illegal aliens=no illegal alien children who need special services such as bilingual ed and Headstart and divert money and effort from educating US citizens and LPRs"

    Those immigrant children, do you mean those that are born here?? If so, they are U.S. CITIZENS!! And you are making a moot point. Being a teacher, no effort is diverted on my part to educate citizens, they all get the same amount of time and effort!! Furthermore, didn't the Supreme Court rule that illegal immigrant children are ALLOWED an education........

    "No illegal aliens=emergency rooms and clinics that don't close down, and lower healthcare costs for those of us with insurance"

    Doesn't it make more sense to allow them to get medical insurance??

    "No illegal aliens=jobs and decent wages for recent legal immigrants and less educated citizens, because illegal aliens can't underbid them for jobs"

    Illegal immigrants can't get jobs if they are not hired correct!!?? What duty do those hiring have to make sure they are legal?? Nobody hiring, no job displacement!! Those who hire are also CRIMINALS for VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW.


    "No illegal aliens=Homeland Security can concentrate its efforts on screening legal applicants and maybe actually catch terrorists, instead of having to chase and waste resources on illegal aliens who may or may not be terrorists, but have already shown themselves to be lawbreakers"

    Chase and waste resources, how?? Who is chasing illegal immigrants?? Sure isn't the BCIS! Legal applicants, do you mean people here legally or people who overstayed or committed fraud?

    "No illegal aliens=less ID theft and fraud, and the costs associated with them"

    No illegal immigrants= no theft and fraud?? U.S. Citizens are also in the business of visa fraud, not just illegals.

    "Registering or giving amnesty to illegal aliens=resources diverted from processing legal immigrants, meaning longer wait times for them"

    What should we do then???


    "Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them full access to welfare benefits, creating a massive number of new applicants"

    No, actually, you will be allowing them to pay taxes, get auto and medical insurance, and not be a burden to tax payers!

    "Giving amnesty to illegal aliens=giving them the ability to bring relatives, thus overburdening our already overburdened immigration system (as will as SSI, welfare, education and healthcare systems)"

    If they are legal, they will be contributing to SSI, paying taxes, and contributing to the education and have insurance. How did our system become overburdened?

    "We don't have to deport everyone, just make it uncomfortable and risky enough that most decide it's better to leave of their own volition."

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I'm sorry, that is the funniest thing I have heard. This one makes me laugh every time I hear it. That is so UNREALISTIC. Better to leave you say?? Leave to where? Many immigrants are now a part of our society. They own businesses, houses, cars, just about everything. Leave that behind? Yeah right. Furthermore, many leave their countries to escape poverty. Lets see, should I go back to starving, or should I stay here with my house and job? Silly logic you have.


    "Enforcing the existing laws, particularly against employers, will go a long way to accomplishing that."

    How and when?

    "Mass legalization is NOT inevitable. The sheer number of people involved argues against it--the numbers are the result of our last Amnesty."

    The numbers of what? What do you mean? Clarify this.

    "Even Mr. Bush, with all his popularity, has not been willing to risk political capital pushing another amnesty through Congress."

    Not since 9/11 ruined the plans!

    "As long as this jobless recovery continues to be jobless, and several million Americans are out of work, Congress and the President will find it very difficult to win public support for amnesty, and will be risking their jobs if they push it."

    Then what is going to happen?

    "Since economists are now saying the unemployment is due to structural changes in the economy, the high unemployment may last quite a while."

    Wait.....don't stop here! You, like everybody else who think this way, fail to provide a solution. Complain and complain, but what is our solution? What do YOU think is going to happen then? Don't give me what SHOULD happen or what CAN happen, just what you honestly think will happen......

  9. #9
    Well I have been surfing this website and reading stuff about ilegal immigrants...you know sometimes it sounds funny...because do you even know that more problems and crimes we get from the local people....this is really funny that one assume all problems come from illegal immigrant...including drugs, rape, shoplifting...that is really funny. Do you think if there were no illegal immigrant, USA would be a county, where everybody would live in peace and no crime was reported ???? that is b*u*l*l*s*h********t..........
    Yeah I am came to this country legal way...I just wish...there must be an organization that should keep strict eye on people who come illegally here...but 99 % of them ....they are desperate to come here because they want to live a good life and earn lot of money...and those people can not do a crime...they work really hard and save their money to pay back to ****** who helped them to come to this country and help their family and up lift their life style... we should be more worried about people who does crime in real.....

  10. #10
    Well I have been surfing this website and reading stuff about ilegal immigrants...you know sometimes it sounds funny...because do you even know that more problems and crimes we get from the local people....this is really funny that one assume all problems come from illegal immigrant...including drugs, rape, shoplifting...that is really funny. Do you think if there were no illegal immigrant, USA would be a county, where everybody would live in peace and no crime was reported ???? that is b*u*l*l*s*h********t..........
    Yeah I am came to this country legal way...I just wish...there must be an organization that should keep strict eye on people who come illegally here...but 99 % of them ....they are desperate to come here because they want to live a good life and earn lot of money...and those people can not do a crime...they work really hard and save their money to pay back to ****** who helped them to come to this country and help their family and up lift their life style... we should be more worried about people doing crime in real.....

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