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  • Another reason to get Citizenship

    For those of you out there who are qualified, still deciding weather to become a USC, this might just be the push you need:

    Department of Homeland Security Expands Collection of Biometrics for Visitors

    Release Date: December 18, 2008

    For Immediate Release
    Office of the Press Secretary
    Contact: 202-282-8010

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced today that it is expanding the categories of non-U.S. citizens required to provide digital fingerprints and a photograph upon entry to the United States through the US?VISIT program.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/relea...r_1229620172131.shtm

    It also addresses that grey area of PR abandonment in that it seems an LPR is now considered a visitor to the US.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

  • #2
    For those of you out there who are qualified, still deciding weather to become a USC, this might just be the push you need:

    Department of Homeland Security Expands Collection of Biometrics for Visitors

    Release Date: December 18, 2008

    For Immediate Release
    Office of the Press Secretary
    Contact: 202-282-8010

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced today that it is expanding the categories of non-U.S. citizens required to provide digital fingerprints and a photograph upon entry to the United States through the US?VISIT program.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/relea...r_1229620172131.shtm

    It also addresses that grey area of PR abandonment in that it seems an LPR is now considered a visitor to the US.
    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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    • #3
      Exactly davdah! Now imagine the Government trying to make USC's do this on entry and soon on exit from the country. There would be a revolution. Talk about a police State!
      "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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      • #4
        I also assume once they start the exit checks, you'll have to comply with that as well. The only way any potential terrorist could possibly bypass this new system was if they kidnapped you while abroad, had plastic surgery to look like you and scalped your fingerprint and grafted it onto theirs! That's quite a lot to do, even for the most committed terrorist.

        There must be a little DHS think-tank somewhere whose only purpose in life is to dream up all the possible ways to enter the country via fraudulent methods and ways to stop it, no matter how absurd it seems.

        Another issue is, what line will you use to enter as an LPR in future? The USC/LPR or the visitor lines? Given currently all the equipment needed for US-VISIT is on the visitor lines, I guess you might have a long wait to enter the country you live in.
        "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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        • #5
          More info. It looks like this wonderful new anti-terrorist measure will begin on Jan 18th 2009. Coming to a POE near you soon....

          http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10126625-38.html
          "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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          • #6
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Brit4064:
            More info. It looks like this wonderful new anti-terrorist measure will begin on Jan 18th 2009. Coming to a POE near you soon....

            http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10126625-38.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Notice at the end "The Department of Homeland Security has not announced any plans to fingerprint U.S. citizens at the border"
            "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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            • #7
              "Some visitors to the U.S. will continue to remain exempt, including non-U.S. citizens younger than 14 or older than 79, as well as Canadian citizens on short-term visits under B visas. US-VISIT stands for United States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology. "

              Canadian citizens need B visas to visit?

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              • #8
                It's the Brave New World Order according to the DHS remember Smeagolrocks
                "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                • #9
                  My experience is that they make it really hard for legal immigrants while nothing is done to illegals.

                  BTW, is this a good way to use tax payers $$$?

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                  • #10
                    Indeed Smeagolrocks. Why would a terrorist go to all that bother to enter legally when just crossing the border is easier
                    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                    • #11
                      brit, are you a citizen?

                      Cheers.

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                      • #12
                        Yes I am now, quite glad I am too!
                        "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                        • #13
                          And now this:

                          Midwife Delivery Can Lead to Passport Denial
                          By Spencer S. Hsu
                          Washington Post Staff Writer
                          Tuesday, September 9, 2008

                          The State Department is denying passports to people born in southern Texas near the border with Mexico if they were delivered by midwives, citing a history of birth certificate forgeries there for Mexican-born children dating to the 1960s, according to U.S. officials.

                          http://www.washingtonpost.com/...AR2008090802623.html
                          "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                          • #14
                            It will only work if they start collecting at land Ports-of-Entry; that is where most of the LPR/green card misuse fraud is.

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                            • #15
                              Big Brother is watching you!

                              CBP stops attempts at use of fraudulent documents
                              "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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