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    What's the process for getting dual citizenship? I'm a British citizen, and a LPR through marriage.

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    What's the process for getting dual citizenship? I'm a British citizen, and a LPR through marriage.

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    • #3
      The US Government will make you surrender your British Passport once you become a citizen. They might also tell you that you can't hold a dual citizenship. However, that is not true. Only the British Government can take away your British citizenship and they (I believe) do allow dual citizenship (Canada does)...

      So just surrender your passport when they (BCIS) ask for it and simply reappy for a new passport back in England... Then you can pick and choose which passport you travel under depending on circumstances...

      ARQU

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      • #4
        Thanks ARQU,

        My fiance and I were just talking about that. Can anyone substanciate ARQU's claim?

        Polaris_x

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        • #5
          Sure - Simply call your embassy and ask them. They will give you a definative answer (which is country specific).

          ARQU

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          • #6
            I've never heard that the US govenment makes you surrender your old passport. Basically, they just ignore your other citizenship and it's up to that country whether or not they let you keep it. (you would need to renounce any inherited title)

            Because the US does not recognize dual citizenship, all US citizens are required to use their US passport when entering or leaving the US. (also, if you were to get arrested, your right to contact the British Embassy would not be recognized.)

            Other than that, you should be OK.

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            • #7
              FYI - A friend of mine (Russian) just got his citizenship (2 months ago) and was forced to hand over his old passport...

              ARQU

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              • #8
                This is an interesting thread. I have not heard about surrendering current passports, but, in the light of oath of American citizenship, this makes sense. The first sentence of the oath involves renouncement of any allegiances owed to other countries. Because of that, acquiring US citizenship should be considered carefully. Most people do not seem to pay attention to this, but threre are ramifications of spoken words. Aside of ethics and conscience of renouncement of one's birthplace, other countries might require their citizens to enter on their native passports. If the original passport is taken away, it might take months to get a replacement. When coupled with identical requirement of American citizens when they travel abroad, this might require traveling with two passports. In the era of interconnected world and more people moving around the planet, the notion of a single allegiance is becoming outdated. Let's hope more and more countries move to official recognizance that their own citizens might hold dual or triple allegiances.

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                • #9
                  Well, my biggest concern is how litigous the U.S. is. I would hate to be having a happy life, and be 15 years into the marriage, and through an accident, my wife be charged with a crime. Let's say she's driving down the road, and a kid jumps out. She could be charged with a felony if it's deemed she's not paying attention. Then, she'd be deported.

                  Accidents happen. The BCIS doesn't care. She's not a professional athlete, so she WOULD be deported if she wasn't a citizen. That's my fear. The thing is, she doesn't want to give up her British citizenship, which makes perfect sense. You'd think there would be a happy middle ground somewhere.

                  Anyway, that's the part that scares me.

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                  • #10
                    This is an interesting topic. I'm new in US due to my marriage with US citizen. I love my country dearly. I want to be here because I love him and want to be with him. I like US but I love my country so much that I told him directly that I'm not going to surrender my other citizenship coz' you won't know what will happen in the future. Ppl can change and I you have to think about bad things too. Of course we are so happily married, but who knows something might happen. In my situation, I'm here because of love. But for who, who wanted new life and new 'rebirth' they might don't think twice to surrender their other citizenship. But once it happened, nothing can changed back. The only thing scared me is I'm going to be an alien in my 'birth' and own country where my whole beloved family are.

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                    • #11
                      I think there should be a global agreement that people who immigrate are guaranteed dual citizenship. That's my 2 cents anyway.

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                      • #12
                        hey polaris x hows it going ? tell sols to look on www.britainusa.com , in the search box get the passport site tells her everything from there on both her dual citizenship and any family you may have too hope it helps

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                        • #13
                          Hi:
                          Until 1978 (I think that is the year but not 100% sure), USA did not allow duals, but there was a Supreme Court ruling allowing it. It is frowned upon, but accepted.
                          It is up to the other country if they allow you or not to keep your other citizenship.
                          Many do allow (Mexico, Spain, Italy, and now even Germany (with previous special permission from Berlin).
                          Some don't (Nordic countries, Japan, Honduras)
                          But as a general rule, laws are changing to allow it.

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                          • #14
                            I hope this information will help worried. And answer the other questions on this subject. I have an excellent book on Immigration law. "U.S. Immigration & Citizenship" By Allan Wernick a top immigration lawyer. He wrote this book up to date after 9/11. In the section on Obtaining Citizenship he writes:

                            "DUAL CITIZENSHIP: IF YOU NATURALIZE, WILL YOU LOSE YOUR FOREIGN CITIZENSHIP?

                            If you become a naturalized U.S. citizen, do you have to give up your citizenship in other countries? That depends on the laws of the other country. When you become a U.S. citizen, the U.S. government asks that you renounce all other citizenship. Some countries do not reconize this renunciation and will consider you,a naturalized U.S. citizen, to be a citizen of both countries. Among the many countries that allow for dual citizenship are Colombia, the Dominican Republic, France, Israel and Mexico. (He has a list in the back of the book of the countries that do and do not ) If you are worried that you will lose citizenship in another country, check with that country's consulate before you naturalize.

                            If you are already a U.S. citizen and want to become a citizen of another country, you probably can do so without jeopardizing your U.S. citizenship. You can lose your U.S. citizenship, however, if you commit an act of expatriciation, such as joining a foreign army or participating in a foreign government."

                            The United Kingdom and Canada are listed as recognizing dual citizenship.

                            If anyone needs to know about a particular country, I will gladly look it up for you in the reference table.

                            Hope this helps.

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                            • #15
                              I don't mean to offend anyone, but I think that in most cases, it is fair to require people to give up old citizenships before receiving new ones. If someone is not willing to give up his/her citizenship, then he/she should not receive American citizenship. American citizenship means more than just having the rights associated with it. It means becoming an American at HEART. It means saying "I'm American," when asked about your nationality. If you still consider yourself primarily German, Brittish, Russian, Mexican, Chinese, Indian, etc. then you are not ready to naturalize. If you do not feel solidarity with the American people, then you are not ready to naturalize. It should not be done just to save yourself from getting deported in the future or to be able to bring more relatives to the States or to get welfare, or anything like that. It should only be done because you feel like this is your country and you love it just as much as the next guy and you are part of it. Here is a good rule of thumb: If you are at all bothered by the idea of your children dating/marrying Americans and speaking American English at home, then you are not ready to be a citizen of this country. Anyone who scolds their children for speaking English at home does not need to be a citizen.

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