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  • US Army Non-Citizen Enlistment Term Question

    To those who are already in active duty,

    My question is;

    Is there a limitation on your enlistment term because you are not US citizens?

    I know that you can't sign up for more than 4 years in the Air Force but how about the Army? The job field I want to go requires me to sign up for 6 yrs. Is it doable?

    Thanks...
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    To those who are already in active duty,

    My question is;

    Is there a limitation on your enlistment term because you are not US citizens?

    I know that you can't sign up for more than 4 years in the Air Force but how about the Army? The job field I want to go requires me to sign up for 6 yrs. Is it doable?

    Thanks...
    SEMPER VIPER / Army Strong!

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    • #3
      it depends how far you have to promote in 6 yrs., for certain grades in certain branches you must be a citizen. Good luck

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      • #4
        Thanks, it looks like a non-citizen should obtain US citizensip during 8 years of military service otherwise they can not reenlist...
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        • #5
          THERE NOT HERE TO HELP THIS COUNTRY JUST TAKE WHAT OTHERS DIE FOR.THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET CITIZENSHIP BUT WE HAVE 11 MILLION IN COUNTRY, 30,000 WHAT A PISS POOR NUMBER HUH???

          Bush speeds citizenship for military
          From Kelly Wallace
          CNN Washington Bureau

          WASHINGTON (CNN) --President Bush issued an executive order Wednesday, speeding up citizenship proceedings for non-citizens who have been serving in the U.S. military since the September 11 terror attacks.

          "It is a reward for their service at a time of war," a senior administration official told CNN.

          Such an executive order has not been made since the Persian Gulf War.

          Under current immigration law, non-citizens must serve in the U.S. military for three years before they are eligible to apply for U.S. citizenship. However, during times of war, a president can issue an executive order, allowing non-citizens on active duty to become eligible for citizenship before completing the three-year service, senior administration officials said.

          About 30,000 non-citizens have been serving in the military since September 11, and roughly 15,000 of them have been serving for less than three years, a senior administration official said.

          The White House highlighted three people who would be eligible for the expedited citizenship: Army Specialist Michelle Pedro, a Guayanan immigrant based at Fort Campbell, Kentucky; Marine Cpl. Miranda Enriquez, a Mexican immigrant at Camp Pendelton, California; and Lalengbor Okpa of Nigeria, a Navy Aviation Storekeeper 3rd Class on the USS John F. Kennedy.

          In his executive order, Bush called for "expedited naturalization for aliens and non-citizen nationals serving in an active-duty status ... during the period of the war against terrorists of global reach."

          The president said that war with a "hostile force" began on September 11, 2001, the date of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania.

          The executive order remains in effect until the president terminates it.

          Bush is expected to highlight the executive order on the Fourth of July during a visit to Ripley, West Virginia, where he will also salute America's veterans.

          Previous executive orders, issued during the Persian Gulf War, the Vietnam War and other wars, allowed some 100,000 non-citizens to become eligible sooner for U.S. citizenship, a senior administration official said.








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          • #6
            Yea yea TROLL! Whatever! You keep trolling...
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            • #7
              "not here to think": ignorance is drolling out of your ears:
              only permanent resident aliens can join the armed forces, undocumented, visa-overstayers or students and guest workers can't (they must register for selective services, but they can't actively go and join). Another problem is that there is a law that unlawfully present people can't own or posses weapons, but any armed forces member must have them (or at least access) . It's a conflict of interrest!

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              • #8
                To be in army, you have to be a PR, after 3 years of service you can get citizenship. You have to be in certain grade to be reenlisted in the army ie. E4 grade.

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                • #9
                  justme, check out the message "the troll" posted. You don't have to serve 3 years during the period of EO, you can get it after boot camp.
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                  • #10
                    Dear Bushmaster, I don't know but as per my understanding, it doesn't apply for everyone serve in armed forces. Likely they are choosen from many as below: So...likely like 5% of them or more...but not all. I believe the ppl who were selected has been selected and evaluated for their service. Thats what I think.
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                    The White House highlighted three people who would be eligible for the expedited citizenship: Army Specialist Michelle Pedro, a Guayanan immigrant based at Fort Campbell, Kentucky; Marine Cpl. Miranda Enriquez, a Mexican immigrant at Camp Pendelton, California; and Lalengbor Okpa of Nigeria, a Navy Aviation Storekeeper 3rd Class on the USS John F. Kennedy.

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                    • #11
                      No, EO is for every single non-citizen member of the US Armed Forces serving on or after Sept 11. It will be likely terminated after the war in Iraq and Afghanistan is over. You get out of basic training and you apply for citizenship. It doesn't mean you get it fast though, you still wait a year for processing.

                      < By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 329 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1440) (the "Act"), and solely in order to provide expedited naturalization for aliens and noncitizen nationals serving in an active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States during the period of the war against terrorists of global reach, it is hereby ordered as follows:

                      For the purpose of determining qualification for the exception from the usual requirements for naturalization, I designate as a period in which the Armed Forces of the United States were engaged in armed conflict with a hostile foreign force the period beginning on September 11, 2001. Such period will be deemed to terminate on a date designated by future Executive Order. Those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States, during the period beginning on September 11, 2001, and terminating on the date to be so designated, are eligible for naturalization in accordance with the statutory exception to the naturalization requirements, as provided in section 329 of the Act. Nothing contained in this order is intended to affect, nor does it affect, any other power, right, or obligation of the United States, its agencies, officers, employees, or any other person under Federal law or the law of nations.

                      GEORGE W. BUSH >
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                      • #12
                        Though there is an executive order authorizing any active duty armed forces foreign national in good standing to apply for naturalization (meaning that this executive order waives only the 3 and 5 years of residency requirement prong) respectively, in practicallility, the process still has to go through BCIS. So you may put in your application once you're active duty, but that still doesn't mean that you'll be naturalized say in a shorter amount of time than the usual "crowd".

                        I know this for a fact, where my (regular) naturalization took 10 months, and an active duty Army guys over 16 months (and he depended on the naturalization for his warrant officer training!). I don't believe that any foreign national active duty will be immediatly or indeed speedily naturalized via this new order, it is just a special short cut for outstanding active duty personal or long term resident aliens who quickly depend on this measure for their promotion. This is my impression from being active duty dependent 12+ yrs. ...

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                        • #13
                          I would depend on it for my WO training, too. If, hopefully all natz apps start to be processed at Missouri SC and if they introduce new methods for faster processing, it would still take a year.

                          I know a AF guy who got it in only 6 months but a few guys from his base asked for a senator's help using "to be deployed soon" lie. Lucky bast***!

                          So no one knows what will happen. Will just try and see when the time comes.

                          And by the way, it hasn't been 16 months yet since the EO was introduced. What you mentioned must be regular military service natz (3 yr)
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                          • #14
                            There was always supposed to be a speedier process for active duty personal (especialy then they were going to be deployed or their promotion was dependent on their naturalization).

                            If I remember correctly, Bushmaster, you're still in removal proceedings and if you successfully fight those off, how could you realistically even think that you'd be any more of a priority than anyone else before you, no offense, but truly now?

                            The 16 month wait was recently and he's been a legal permanent resident with no criminal history, outstanding civil or tax deeds etc. for over 20+ years! Active duty for over 6 years!

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                            • #15
                              Dashing through the snow
                              On a one-horse open sleigh
                              Over the fields we go
                              Laughing all the way;
                              Bells on bob-tail ring
                              making spirits bright
                              What fun it is to ride and sing
                              A sleighing song tonight
                              Jingle bells
                              jingle bells
                              jingle all the way!
                              O what fun it is to ride
                              In a one-horse open sleigh

                              A day or two ago
                              I thought I'd take a ride
                              And soon Miss Fanny Bright
                              Was seated by my side;
                              The horse was lean and lank;
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                              He got into a drifted bank
                              And we
                              we got upsot
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle all the way!
                              What fun it is to ride
                              In a one-horse open sleigh

                              A day or two ago
                              the story I must tell
                              I went out on the snow
                              And on my back I fell;
                              A gent was riding by
                              In a one-horse open sleigh
                              He laughed as there
                              I sprawling lie
                              But quickly drove away
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle all the way!
                              What fun it is to ride
                              In a one-horse open sleigh

                              Now the ground is white
                              Go it while you're young
                              Take the girls tonight
                              And sing this sleighing song;
                              Just get a bob-tailed bay
                              two-forty as his speed
                              Hitch him to an open sleigh
                              And crack! you'll take the lead
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle Bells
                              Jingle all the way!
                              What fun it is to ride
                              In a one-horse open sleigh



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