Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

THERE IS A MAJOR PUSH UNDERWAY TO MOVE H.R. 2671 FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 WEEKS: Rep. Charlie Nor

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • THERE IS A MAJOR PUSH UNDERWAY TO MOVE H.R. 2671 FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 WEEKS: Rep. Charlie Nor

    Sign up at Numbersusa and fax your elected for free, they have pre-made faxes with your choice of messages to send.

    www.numbersusa.com

    THERE IS A MAJOR PUSH UNDERWAY TO MOVE H.R. 2671 FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 WEEKS: Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA), along with Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL), Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA), and Rep. Melissa Hart, H.R. 2671. This is a very exciting milestone for those who support interior enforcement and oppose illegal immigration. This bipartisan legislation will address the criminal alien crisis in this country by expanding state and local law enforcement's authority to enforce immigration law. The CLEAR Act of 2003 would bring our 700,000 state and local law officers on the beat with respect to immigration crimes and allow local law enforcement officials to detain and process illegal aliens. Among the important provisions of the CLEAR Act are: training of local officers in immigration law enforcement; increased information sharing regarding violators of immigration law among various law enforcement agencies; and additional resources to local law enforcement and Homeland Security. The CLEAR Act would increase homeland security, increase the chances of an illegal alien getting caught, and help protect public safety at all levels. There are currently more than 75 cosponsors of the CLEAR Act. However, because the CLEAR Act would do so much to deter illegal immigration and increase interior enforcement, a major push is underway to pass this legislation before Congress adjourns this year. Please send this fax to your Representative asking him\her to cosponsor the CLEAR Act this Fall. If you have already sent this fax to your Representative, we encourage you to resend it as part of this legislative push.

  • #2
    Sign up at Numbersusa and fax your elected for free, they have pre-made faxes with your choice of messages to send.

    www.numbersusa.com

    THERE IS A MAJOR PUSH UNDERWAY TO MOVE H.R. 2671 FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT 5-7 WEEKS: Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA), along with Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL), Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA), and Rep. Melissa Hart, H.R. 2671. This is a very exciting milestone for those who support interior enforcement and oppose illegal immigration. This bipartisan legislation will address the criminal alien crisis in this country by expanding state and local law enforcement's authority to enforce immigration law. The CLEAR Act of 2003 would bring our 700,000 state and local law officers on the beat with respect to immigration crimes and allow local law enforcement officials to detain and process illegal aliens. Among the important provisions of the CLEAR Act are: training of local officers in immigration law enforcement; increased information sharing regarding violators of immigration law among various law enforcement agencies; and additional resources to local law enforcement and Homeland Security. The CLEAR Act would increase homeland security, increase the chances of an illegal alien getting caught, and help protect public safety at all levels. There are currently more than 75 cosponsors of the CLEAR Act. However, because the CLEAR Act would do so much to deter illegal immigration and increase interior enforcement, a major push is underway to pass this legislation before Congress adjourns this year. Please send this fax to your Representative asking him\her to cosponsor the CLEAR Act this Fall. If you have already sent this fax to your Representative, we encourage you to resend it as part of this legislative push.

    Comment


    • #3
      acelaw, this is the first I've heard of this. Now you are actually posting something of reason instead of your usual garbage! I'll have to look more into this, but enforcing our laws is definitely something that needs to be addressed, and it looks like it finally is.

      I'm a little pessimistic about his getting passed only because of the problems it poses. I am not sure it is wise for local law enforcement agencies enforcing immigration. There needs to be more federal agencies involved and more BP agents and interior agents hired. This is because crimes will be reported less if illegal immigrants fear deportation. That is bad because illegals that are victims of crimes will not call the police when they are attacked out of fear of deportation. The LAPD doesn't do it, and those that I work with say that is the best way. I am in favor of increasing federal agents and even setting up a federal agency to deal with apprehending those in the interior.

      However, that is only wishful thinking....and not very realistic.

      Comment


      • #4
        SKS get your B.U.T.T. back over here before you TACKLE THIS???
        http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums?q=...4&r=7526093714

        FUNNY HOW EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER SAID TO YOU WILL NEVER WORK, EVEN MY BEST EFFORT AT PEACE WAS SHOT DOWN, WHICH WAS:
        Illegals send 10 BILLION per year of our MONEY home , when they do so at the bank ,they could DONATE $5.00 to a fund to help with the COSTS they burden our country with,CONTROLLED BY THEM TO BENFIT THEM, YOU SAID THAT WAS STUPID, WHAT SAY YOU AGAIN? FOR ALL THE NEW FOLKS LISTENING IN????



        A foreign-exchange program for illegals in Mexico?
        By Tom knott
        THE WASHINGTON TIMES
        Published September 4, 2003


        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        I am thinking about attending graduate school in Mexico after crossing the Rio Grande by foot, presumably beyond the watchful eye of the Border Patrol.
        I suspect my status as an illegal immigrant in Mexico will not be a problem. I suspect the authorities there will feel my academic pain and offer to aid the application process.
        If there is a problem, I guess I could solicit the legal help of the attorneys with the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. They could relate to this situation.
        They are waging this wonderfully obtuse campaign on behalf of the illegal immigrants seeking admission into Virginia's public colleges. They have an issue with state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore, a mean old Republican.
        It is Mr. Kilgore's contention that Virginia's public colleges should deny admission to those who are not here legally. Alas, attorneys general can be sticklers like that.
        In a different time, of course, Mr. Kilgore's memo would have prompted a yawn. It would have been about as gripping as stating the sun rises from the east.
        But in these incredibly enlightened times, if you are here illegally, you deserve the same perks as Americans, starting with a seat in a taxpayer-funded classroom.
        This belief reflects our growth as a nation, our compassion, our commitment to diversity and moral relativism.
        To draw a line in the sand on this side of the Rio Grande is to miss a larger good.
        We have what amounts to an open border with Mexico anyway. We have placed our big, fat welcome mat out, and not just for Mexicans, but for anyone with two legs, including the terrorists who hate us so. This is not really a big problem. We just need to understand. We just need to relax.
        The attorneys championing the cause of the illegal Mexicans make a number of exceptional points. Lawyers are like that. They are so smart.
        You, me and the guy down the street, well, we are all morons.
        We have no capacity to grasp the technical points of the law.
        As one of the sharp-thinking attorneys puts it, Mr. Kilgore's "memorandum serves as a backbone for an unconstitutional immigration regulatory scheme," which is just not right. That is the job of the federal government, not the job of a state attorney general.
        As you can see, Mr. Kilgore has a personal issue with illegal immigrants. Perhaps he needs professional help, if not a court-mandated sensitivity-training session. I mean, what is wrong with this man, and why is he stuck on the illegality of it all? Lighten up already, please.
        Just because someone sneaks into our country from Mexico, or even from Siberia, that person should not be prevented from attending the University of Virginia. There are 6.5 billion humans on this planet, and a good number of them probably would like to attend Virginia.
        In a way, Mr. Kilgore is the crusher of dreams, and that is all there is to it.
        Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, understands this idea perfectly. After all, he vetoed the legislation that addressed the dreams of illegal immigrants.
        Perhaps there is a little kid in China right now who dreams of being a stowaway on a ship and applying to the fine university in Charlottesville after reaching these shores.
        Mr. Warner is behind that prospect. He is a man of the people, of all the people, to be fair. He is hardly suggesting that all the illegal immigrants apply to Thomas Jefferson's school. That might prove cumbersome. Fortunately, his is a large state that has 37 institutions of higher learning.
        It is a state that can do this one thing for humanity, so as long as the taxpayers don't object to contributing to the higher educational needs of the globe.
        The educating of illegal immigrants can cut both ways, if the rest of the globe is interested in being fair.
        And why shouldn't it cut both ways? America is no better than any other place, which gets back to Mexico and my educational pursuits.
        Do you think the citizens of Mexico will feel inclined to rally in support of a dumb gringo?
        I don't know either.
        I will tell you this. I like Mexican food, I like margaritas, and I don't have a problem with being an illegal immigrant if the Mexican authorities do not have a problem with it.
        Bottom line: I promise to be their amigo if they promise to be my amigo.

        Comment


        • #5
          to acelaw,
          what is wrong with Mexicans sending money back to their families in Mexico? Nothing. They work hard to earn that money. They do jobs that Americans don't want, dirty and low-paying jobs. Most are paid less than minimum wages. They have no legal protection. They are under constant harrasment by their employers. They live in fear of deportation all the time. People like you who only talk about freedom but never really try to give these Mexicans a chance to have a normal life in this country.
          Rajoo

          Comment


          • #6
            Nothing is wrong with people sending money back to their families. In fact, it should be commended. See Rajoo....we DO agree on something!
            Regards,
            Kenny

            Comment


            • #7
              acelaw, I try to be realistic, that's all.

              "FUNNY HOW EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER SAID TO YOU WILL NEVER WORK,"

              Most of it was along the lines of "roud'em up," which won't happen.


              "EVEN MY BEST EFFORT AT PEACE WAS SHOT DOWN, WHICH WAS:
              Illegals send 10 BILLION per year of our MONEY home , when they do so at the bank ,they could DONATE $5.00 to a fund to help with the COSTS they burden our country with,CONTROLLED BY THEM TO BENFIT THEM, YOU SAID THAT WAS STUPID, WHAT SAY YOU AGAIN? FOR ALL THE NEW FOLKS LISTENING IN????"

              Here is the point that I am trying to make, and have been trying to make for some time now. Your plan sounds very clever, well-thought out, and intelligent and CAN be done. But will it? REALISTICALLY, in my estimation, no. That is the point. I could be wrong, but I don't see a plan like that ever being implemented....That is my point,doesn't sound realistic.

              Comment


              • #8
                Acelaw, where do you find these articles??!!
                This one was yet another whining fest. Cry me A River, one the size of the Rio Grande!!!

                YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWN

                Hypotheticals, hypotheticals, hypotheticals, very looooooong, drawn out piece of garbage of an article. Again, b!thcing and moaning with no real solutions put forth........This article is very cute, but doesn't solve anything.

                "Bottom line: I promise to be their amigo if they promise to be my amigo."

                Real cute, doesn't solve anything.

                Like I said before, it's very easy to complain........................

                Comment


                • #9
                  You acelaw should have been named ******** ***-hole-law.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    You acelaw should have been named f-r-i-g-g-i-n-g A-S-S-law.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Acelaw, I have already responded to the action alert I got from NumbersUSA. I also made a lot of phone calls and have been reminding people I know who are intrested in this , to contact people and fax , e-mail and call all their representatives in support of this bill. This group GETS THINGS DONE. I laughed when I read SKS post. OF COURSE he doesn't think it will work. He doesn't think anything will work except giving in and letting them all stay because "THEY ARE HERE< AND THEY AREN"T GOING ANYWHERE"I bet he's one of those nuts that think we landed on the moon only in some movie studio. As far as his worry about the poor illegals who won't report crime if the police can deport them. Excuse me but you must have mistook me for someone who gives a ***T. I would rather our strecthed to the breaking point police force spent it's time watching out for the CITIZENS they are paid to protect.If crime happens to those here illegally "you break the law-the law gets broken on you"That may sound heartless, but I am sooooooooo sick of being called racist and anti immigrant and worse, just because I love my country and want the law respected, that I have lost any pity I ever had for those people. I just want them gone ...period...

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        to janiss,
                        A crime is a crime regardless of the immigration status of the victims.
                        In this country every person is equal under the law. Remember equal protection clause in the US contitution? So you cannot tell the police not to help immigrants. Your hatred towards immigrants is misplaced and you need psychiatric help.
                        rajoo

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          janiss, janiss.
                          Misguided at best....... Why don't you address the many questions I posed to you?? Afraid?? Don't have any responses? Can't?? I try my best to respond to yours and acelaw's (although he posts an entire book!) anyway.........

                          ""This group GETS THINGS DONE. I laughed when I read SKS post. OF COURSE he doesn't think it will work. He doesn't think anything will work except giving in and letting them all stay because "

                          That's right I don't think it will pass....I fail to see what is wrong with that? However, if it does, I will be the first one to say I was wrong!!!

                          "giving in and letting them all stay" you say?

                          The only alternative to allowing them to stay, is deporting them? So, by your logic, all the millions of illegals are going to be rounded up? How? and When? You tell me and stop avoiding my questions. WHY HASN'T MASSIVE ROUND UPS BEEN DONE, AND WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO START? WHEN?


                          "THEY ARE HERE< AND THEY AREN"T GOING ANYWHERE""

                          That is cold hard reality, it may take some time for you to realize and accept it, but once you do, you will be more able to find a better solution.

                          "As far as his worry about the poor illegals who won't report crime if the police can deport them. Excuse me but you must have mistook me for someone who gives a ***T."

                          Critical thinking dear buddy. Let's see, if crimes go unreported, criminals feel they can get away with anything, and crimes increase hundreds of times. Then you will start giving a sh!t when the problem is compounded 100 times...use your head will you!

                          "I would rather our strecthed to the breaking point police force spent it's time watching out for the CITIZENS they are paid to protect."

                          What department are you referring to? One of the foundations of all police forces in the U.S. is to "protect human life." I ask you, where in those 3 words does it say protect and to serve citizens lives only?? You are telling me that one day the police are going to stop dealing with illegal immigrants??? Talk about a nut!

                          "If crime happens to those here illegally "you break the law-the law gets broken on you" That may sound heartless, but I am sooooooooo sick of being called racist and anti immigrant and worse, just because I love my country and want the law respected,"

                          AHA, YOU WANT THE LAW RESPECTED. Then why all the outrage only aimed at the immigrant? It is okay for them to exploited and crimes comitted against them?

                          THAT, MY FRIEND, IS A CONTRADICTION.

                          You say you stand for the respect of laws, but how can you condone laws that are broken against illegal immigrants? How? If you want our laws respected, WHY IS IT OK FOR SOMEBODY TO BREAK THE LAW AGAINST AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?

                          Just like I told acelaw, LAWS ARE LAWS. If you are now going to pick and choose which "criminals" you are going to single out, your point and position means nothing.

                          IT'S NOT OK FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO COMMIT CRIMES, BUT IT'S OK FOR CRIMES TO BE COMMITTED AGAINST THEM?????

                          IF YOU ARE THE PATRIOTIC AMERICAN THAT YOU SAY YOU ARE, THEN YOU WOULD BE JUST AS OUTRAGED WHEN A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

                          Or are we now going to make a distinction on who is allowed to commmit crimes? you tell me......

                          "I just want them gone ...period..."

                          WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA

                          Aren't you the person who said not to think by using your emotions.......kind of hypocritical, no?


                          Hate to break it to you, they are here to stay..........their neighborhoods, customs, languages, food, cultures, are all now part of America. There is no arguing that.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            JANISS, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT! YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT! HAHHAHAAH

                            DIRECT QUOTE FROM JANISS ON THE "DON'T READ OR REPLY TO ACELAW" THREAD.
                            QUOTE
                            "..........This is supposed to be a country of laws. And everyone regardless of class ,race, wealth or whatever is supposed to to be equal before the law."


                            WAIT A MINUTE. AFter saying this, how is it ok for somebody to commit a crime against an illegal immigrant? HOW? ANSWER THAT? IT IS OK TO COMMIT A CRIME AGAINST AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?
                            It's ok for the "law to be broken on them", as you say?

                            QUOTE:

                            " We are ALL supposed to obey them."

                            JANISS, YOU SAID THAT. That is right. IT IS WRONG FOR AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TO BREAK LAWS, AND IT IS ALSO WRONG FOR CITIZENS AND LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO BREAK LAWS, CORRECT? ISN'T THAT WHAT A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN STANDS FOR, JUSTICE AND RESPECT FOR THE LAW BY ALL PEOPLE?

                            What do you have to say for yourself my friend?

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              The CLEAR ACT 2003 it is not something new.Some states already "training"their law enforcement.BUT most of the states DO NOT AGREE with it and REFUSE to work with BCIS.

                              Comment



                              Working...
                              X