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    Studies by immigration critics claim that the U.S. is admitting too many poor and uneducated immigrants who then drain government welfare systems. But a more thoughtful look at these critical studies and at the U.S. immigrant population proves them wrong. Immigrants in fact are responsible for a smaller portion of government costs than critics claim. On the other side of the ledger, they contribute more in tax payments and to overall economic growth than critics have acknowledged. For more information, see IPC's most recent Fact Check titled The Economic Impact of Immigration.



    TAXES AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. Immigration critics not only are wrong to claim that immigrants use disproportionately high levels of government services and increase the poverty rate (see below), they also misstate the positive contributions immigrants make as taxpayers and to U.S. economic growth. Immigration increases the U.S. Gross Domestic Product by approximately $37 billion each year. And national and state studies find that immigrants pay more in taxes than they use in government services. As for undocumented immigrants, it is a myth that they do not pay taxes. Up to 75% of them pay federal and state income and payroll taxes and all immigrants (legal and undocumented) pay sales taxes and property taxes.



    POVERTY RATE. Critics of immigration argue that "immigrant households" are more likely to live in poverty than are non-immigrant households. Current U.S. Census data show that the number of people living in poverty grew by 3.9 million between 2000 and 2006. But the same data also show that while the poverty rate for U.S.-born citizens increased slightly, it fell slightly for immigrants. And, as immigrants integrate into U.S. society, they work their way out of poverty. For example, the children and grandchildren of Hispanic immigrants have made great strides in closing the economic gap with native-born whites by getting an education, getting better jobs, and earning higher incomes than their parents and grandparents. As a case study, homeownership reflects the economic advancement of the immigrant population, and, in California, the homeownership rates for Latino immigrants rose from 16.4 percent among those who arrived in the U.S. in the last 10 years to 64.6 percent among those who have lived here for 30 years or more.



    WELFARE COSTS. Some immigration critics exaggerate immigrants' welfare use by measuring the welfare costs of "immigrant households." These studies include welfare benefits paid to U.S.-citizen children as "immigrant welfare costs" if any member of the child's household is an immigrant. But, in fact, most legal immigrants are not eligible for publicly financed benefits and undocumented immigrants are not eligible for any public benefits. In addition, the participation rates of non-citizens in some federal benefits programs have been declining.



    HEALTH CARE COSTS. Immigration critics also fault immigration for the increase in U.S. health care costs. In fact, per capita health care expenditures were 55 percent lower for immigrants than for natives in 1998. On average, immigrants received about $1,139 in health care, compared with $2,546 for native-born residents. Although all immigrants are eligible for emergency medical services, they had lower expenditures for emergency room visits, doctor's office visits, outpatient hospital visits, inpatient hospital visits, and prescription drugs.

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    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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    Studies by immigration critics claim that the U.S. is admitting too many poor and uneducated immigrants who then drain government welfare systems. But a more thoughtful look at these critical studies and at the U.S. immigrant population proves them wrong. Immigrants in fact are responsible for a smaller portion of government costs than critics claim. On the other side of the ledger, they contribute more in tax payments and to overall economic growth than critics have acknowledged. For more information, see IPC's most recent Fact Check titled The Economic Impact of Immigration.



    TAXES AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. Immigration critics not only are wrong to claim that immigrants use disproportionately high levels of government services and increase the poverty rate (see below), they also misstate the positive contributions immigrants make as taxpayers and to U.S. economic growth. Immigration increases the U.S. Gross Domestic Product by approximately $37 billion each year. And national and state studies find that immigrants pay more in taxes than they use in government services. As for undocumented immigrants, it is a myth that they do not pay taxes. Up to 75% of them pay federal and state income and payroll taxes and all immigrants (legal and undocumented) pay sales taxes and property taxes.



    POVERTY RATE. Critics of immigration argue that "immigrant households" are more likely to live in poverty than are non-immigrant households. Current U.S. Census data show that the number of people living in poverty grew by 3.9 million between 2000 and 2006. But the same data also show that while the poverty rate for U.S.-born citizens increased slightly, it fell slightly for immigrants. And, as immigrants integrate into U.S. society, they work their way out of poverty. For example, the children and grandchildren of Hispanic immigrants have made great strides in closing the economic gap with native-born whites by getting an education, getting better jobs, and earning higher incomes than their parents and grandparents. As a case study, homeownership reflects the economic advancement of the immigrant population, and, in California, the homeownership rates for Latino immigrants rose from 16.4 percent among those who arrived in the U.S. in the last 10 years to 64.6 percent among those who have lived here for 30 years or more.



    WELFARE COSTS. Some immigration critics exaggerate immigrants' welfare use by measuring the welfare costs of "immigrant households." These studies include welfare benefits paid to U.S.-citizen children as "immigrant welfare costs" if any member of the child's household is an immigrant. But, in fact, most legal immigrants are not eligible for publicly financed benefits and undocumented immigrants are not eligible for any public benefits. In addition, the participation rates of non-citizens in some federal benefits programs have been declining.



    HEALTH CARE COSTS. Immigration critics also fault immigration for the increase in U.S. health care costs. In fact, per capita health care expenditures were 55 percent lower for immigrants than for natives in 1998. On average, immigrants received about $1,139 in health care, compared with $2,546 for native-born residents. Although all immigrants are eligible for emergency medical services, they had lower expenditures for emergency room visits, doctor's office visits, outpatient hospital visits, inpatient hospital visits, and prescription drugs.

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    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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    • #3
      Interesting article, Hudson. I read something similar the other day. Thanks for sharing.

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      • #4
        Immigrant Population Hits Record 38 Million

        Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:38 PM
        By: Chris Gonsalves


        A new study by the Center for Immigration Studies, based on the latest Census Bureau data, shows the number of immigrants in America, both legal and illegal, has swelled to a record 38 million this year – making one of every eight U.S. residents an immigrant.

        The new numbers indicate the highest level in more than eight decades – with a third of those being illegal aliens.

        One third of immigrants are on some form of welfare, costing states nearly $20 billion a year, the study claimed, adding that efforts to legalize the spiraling number of illegal aliens will only increase the amount of uneducated, uninsured legal immigrants burdening America's welfare rolls.

        Since 2000, more than 10 million immigrants have entered the U.S., more than half of them illegally, according to the CIS. With no change in U.S. immigration policy, another 15 million immigrants will likely arrive in the next 10 years.

        "The last seven years have been the highest period of immigration in American History," says the report's lead author, Dr. Steven A. Camarota. "The roughly 1.5 million immigrants arriving each year have a very significant effect on American life."

        Mark Krikorian, executive director of the CIS, tells Newsmax that the deleterious effects of continued immigration, include "an increasing burden on taxpayers to subsidize a 19th century workforce imported into a 21st century society; further displacement and wage reductions for the low-skilled and teen-age American workers who are the chief competitors of illegal immigrants; and continued slowing of technological innovation in the fields where immigrants are concentrated due to the artificial flooding of the low-skilled labor market and consequent reduction of incentives for businesses to mechanize and use labor more efficiently."

        The impact is being felt most pointedly in a handful of states. California, Florida, Texas, New Jersey and Arizona are bearing the brunt of immigration increases both legal and illegal, the CIS study found. California's 10 million immigrants alone make up 27 percent of the nation's total immigrant population.

        "Some 75 percent of immigrants settle in ten states," Krikorian tells Newsmax. "But Americans in other states are not immune to the effects of mass immigration. The consequences for security, sovereignty, assimilation, and government spending are national problems. In other words, every state is now a border state, every town a border town."


        A third of all U.S. immigrants come from Mexico, making it the top country of origin followed by China, India, the Philippines and Vietnam. Almost 60 percent of the Illegal aliens entering the U.S. come from Mexico.

        The numbers portend a major shift in American demographics. More than 72 percent of native U.S. residents are white, 13 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic and 2 percent are Asian. But among the burgeoning immigrant population, over 48 percent are Hispanic, 23 percent are Asian, 21 percent are white and 7 percent are black.

        Camarota, research director at the CIS, a Washington think tank that favors immigration restrictions along with improved services for legal immigrants, says immigrants now make up one in every five school-age children in America. Immigration accounts for all of the increases in public school enrollment nationwide over the past 20 years, the CIS reports.

        In places such as Los Angeles County and New York City, the children of immigrant fathers make up nearly 60 percent of the school-age population.

        On top of that, a quarter of these immigrant children live in poverty and a third lack health insurance, something Camarota says "creates enormous challenges for the nation's schools, healthcare system and physical infrastructure."

        In fact, the study found that 17 percent of immigrants and their children live below the poverty line – with income of less than $20,000 per year for a family of four - some 50 percent higher than the poverty rate for native U.S. residents.

        Many immigrants do ultimately find a better life here. But the study reveals that even those who have been in the U.S. for more than two decades are more likely than native residents to live in poverty, lack health insurance and use the welfare system.

        Camarota points out that the numbers indicate the reason for the high rates of poverty and welfare among immigrants is a lack of education, "not their legal status or unwillingness to work."

        More than 31 percent of adult immigrants have not completed high school, compared to just 8 percent of U.S. natives. Since 2000, immigrants have boosted the overall number of workers who lack a high school diploma to 14 percent.

        Camarota's findings on the quality of life for uneducated immigrants shows that attempts at so-called amnesty for the current population of 12 million illegal aliens would prove costly and provide little benefit.

        "Immigrants who have legal status, but little education, generally have low incomes and make heavy use of welfare programs," the CIS report states. "If we decide to legalize illegal immigrants, we should at least understand that it will not result in dramatically lower welfare use or poverty.

        "Those who advocate such a policy need to acknowledge this problem and not argue that legalization will save taxpayers money or result in a vast improvement in the income of illegal aliens," the report continues. "Legalized illegals will still be overwhelmingly uneducated and this fact has enormous implications for their income, welfare use, health insurance coverage, and the effect on American taxpayers."

        Of the estimated 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S., nearly 7 million have jobs. Illegal immigrants earn an average of $46,000 per household annually compared with $67,000 for native families, the CIS study shows.

        "A central question for immigration policy is whether we should allow in so many people with little education "” increasing job competition for the poorest American workers and the population needing government assistance," says Camarota. "Setting aside the lower socio economic status of immigrants, no nation has ever attempted to incorporate nearly 38 million newcomers into its society."

        America has, of course, traditionally been a nation of immigrants. But the CIS report points out that the immigrant population now accounts for a large share of the increase in the overall U.S. population. During the first decade of the last century, the 3.2 million additional immigrants accounted for just 20 percent of the total increase in the U.S. population. The 6.8 million immigrant increase in the last seven years equals 34 percent of U.S. population's rise in that same period.

        "Whatever one thinks of contemporary immigration, it is critically important to understand that its effect on America represents a choice," Camarota says. "Selection criteria can be altered, as can the total number of people allowed into the country legally. With illegal aliens accounting for nearly one in three immigrants, their effect on the nation by themselves is now very large."

        True to the CIS charter, Krikorian stresses that there " is no excuse whatever for intolerant attitudes toward legal immigrants -- we admitted them according to the rules established by our elected representatives, and we must, and will, continue to embrace them as Americans in training.

        "Even illegal immigrants must be treated humanely as they are detained and returned to their homes," Krikorian says. "But future legal immigration is a different question -- mass immigration is simply not compatible with the goals of a modern society and should be minimized to the extent possible."


        Newsmax http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Immigrant_Population_/...al&promo_code=3E6F-1

        The CIS(Center for Immigration Studies) actually researches and reports the results, not some slanted OBL point of view like the one above. Hospitals are closing all over the US because of the needs of uninsured illegal aliens who think the ER should substitute for a visit to the doctor.
        Wolves Travel In Packs
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        • #5
          It would be interesting to know how they collect the data regarding illegal aliens.

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          • #6
            They DO HAVE A WEBSITE, you know.
            Wolves Travel In Packs
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            • #7
              Yes, I found it. I also found how "unslanted" they are based on their mission statement:

              Our Mission

              It is the Center's mission to expand the base of public knowledge and understanding of the need for an immigration policy that gives first concern to the broad national interest. The Center is animated by a pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted.

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              • #8
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                Yes, I found it. I also found how "unslanted" they are based on their mission statement:

                Our Mission

                It is the Center's mission to expand the base of public knowledge and understanding of the need for an immigration policy that gives first concern to the broad national interest. The Center is animated by a pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                They have a mission statement, not a negate the facts and ignore the reality of their statiscal finding unlike the delusional obviously factually void mess posted above.
                Wolves Travel In Packs
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                • #9
                  Hogwash? I wasn't the one who said children born in this country of 2 illegals aren't US citizens!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Are you an (illegal) "immigrant"? because your responses and sad attempts to defend the defenseless truly have the identical ring of delusional justification and denial of reality.
                    Wolves Travel In Packs
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                    • #11
                      There was a study in the UK that showed that each Immigrant would need to bring in the equivalent of $300,000 to balance out.

                      The figure for the US would be diferent, but I am guessing not significantly so.

                      As a general rule of thumb, any study that intentionally confuses legal and illegal immigration should be discounted immediately.

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                      • #12
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
                        The two articles tell opposite stories. So which is accurate? Both have some 'slant' to them. The easiest way to tell is to look around.

                        Next time you drive by a charity line at a church take a look. Who is there? Is there a social services building in your neighborhood. See who is in line there. Take note of who is sitting next to you in the ER. What language do they speak.

                        Look at the level of math your kids are learning. Compare it to what you had in the same grade. Read through some of their other books. What sort of education are they getting? Are they being taught to 'understand' and 'respect' other cultures & religions. Being told we have no culture or traditions of our own. Or that ours are somehow offensive and should be shunned. If I recall we had several people on this forum tell of their displeasure with Thanksgiving.

                        Open your eyes. Is your neighborhood as it was 10 years ago? Does it still look American? Or is it starting to look like TJ. Chickens and goats running the street. Do you have to speak slowly at the drive through so the person can understand your order? How about crime? Are you as safe now as you were 10 yrs ago? When you get mugged does your attacker even speak English? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        Excellent points. Anytime Chicago has to do this, you know we are in trouble:

                        Title: Chicago Considers Residential Chicken Ban
                        Source: NBC TV Chicago
                        URL Source: http://www.nbc5.com/news/14657700/detail.html? rss=chi&psp=news
                        Published: Nov 21, 2007
                        Author: Staff/AP
                        Post Date: 2007-11-21 10:20:26 by midwest minuteman
                        Ping List: *Immigration Issues-Borders*
                        17 Comments


                        CHICAGO -- Live chickens aren't meant for big-city neighborhoods.

                        At least that's how some Chicago aldermen see it, and they're moving to ban the keeping of the birds in residential areas.

                        The phenomenon of city chickens is apparently on the rise. Animal control officials in Chicago say they've had more than 700 complaints about chickens this year. That includes hundreds of gripes about rosters crowing too loudly.


                        Ald. Lona Lane has taken the lead in pushing a hen and rooster ban through the City Council's Health Committee. It's expected to pass at a council meeting next month.

                        Lane says the chickens literally create a stink in some neighborhoods. She says chicken waste not only smells -- it also attracts rodents.
                        http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/reada...?ArtNum=207707

                        That's what happens when you become a sanctuary for mobs of illegal 3rd grade educated peasants. It's time for these cultural and mental midgets to go home.
                        Wolves Travel In Packs
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                        • #13
                          Defend the defenseless? I was stating facts. I wasn't defending anyone. Delusional is someone like yourself who feels because slavery is against the law, the 14th Amendment should be abolished. Now - that is ridiculous hogwash. The 14th Amendment has protected many other groups of people - perhaps it was enacted for the purpose of granting rights to former slaves, but it covers everyone - there are no exceptions.

                          I do not support illegal immigration; however, I do understand it. You should cast the blame on your own government, Beverly. They are the ones who failed to protect our borders and have done little to nothing to prevent businesses from hiring illegals. If you were living in Mexico, trying to feed a family on $2 to $3 a day and knew there was a better life up the road a bit, what would you do? Don't tell me you'd deal with it, because that would be a lie. Walk a mile in their shoes.

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                          • #14
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                            Defend the defenseless? I was stating facts. I wasn't defending anyone. Delusional is someone like yourself who feels because slavery is against the law, the 14th Amendment should be abolished. Now - that is ridiculous hogwash. The 14th Amendment has protected many other groups of people - perhaps it was enacted for the purpose of granting rights to former slaves, but it covers everyone - there are no exceptions.

                            I do not support illegal immigration; however, I do understand it. You should cast the blame on your own government, Beverly. They are the ones who failed to protect our borders and have done little to nothing to prevent businesses from hiring illegals. If you were living in Mexico, trying to feed a family on $2 to $3 a day and knew there was a better life up the road a bit, what would you do? Don't tell me you'd deal with it, because that would be a lie. Walk a mile in their shoes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            Please don't twist my words to suit your needs. I said ABOLISHED OR RESCINDED and whether you and your revisionist history view acknowledges the reality or not the 14th Amended was written to GIVE CITIZENSHIP TO AFRICAN AMERICAN DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES not for the purpose of providing citizenship to the children of illegal breedmares looking for handouts and chain migration privileges. Additionally, I hold the traitors in the US government, the oligarchy of Messyhole and other 3rd world cesspools responsible for this mess, along with the special interest groups (i.e. LaRaza, LULAC, ACLU, etc.) as well as the corporate elite hustlers responsible for this invasion. I refuse to get into your pity party riddled excuses for why illegal aliens chose to invade this country, there isn't one other than they are cowards. When my people got sick and tired of being slaves and treated as less than human WE ROSE UP AND CHANGED IT; what's wrong with these illegal homeland flag waiving midgets going home and demanding rights, jobs and humane treatment from their own countries? If they are too cowardly to get their share of the 10's of billions of American tax dollars from their respective governments that's their problem but I'll be ****ed if I stand around wringing my hands begging them to leave, I am amongst the masses who are fed up and ready to run them out of here by any means necessary.
                            Wolves Travel In Packs
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                            • #15
                              I refuse to get into any further debate with you, Beverly. I do not want to be disrespectful nor hateful. We have differing opinions and that's okay. My heart is not filled with hatred and to continue this exchange would be against everything I believe in.

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