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  • Change in Family Immigration Law?

    If you opened this you are curious, when, if Family Immigration Law might change to benefit you or your family.

    Comprehensive immigration reform tanked, yet thousands if not millions of families that contain a US citizen or Legal Permanent Resident are still suffering.

    There is only one thing that can "fix" these problems for many families, and it is a legislative fix. Yes you heard right, utilizing the "SYSTEM" you can change the system. No its not easy, but the old axiom "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" is true here.

    LEGAL IMMIGRATION reform for deserving families did not happen because "the squeaky" wheel in Comprehensive was the "anti-immigration" movement.

    If you have been watching and listening, and our organization has as well as keeping someone working on the hill in the background there are still some vehicles that might carry a solution for some families. If you fall into any of the following situations, then we need you and your help;

    Immediate relative status for green card nuclear families

    Family member who needs a Waiver for 3/10 or permanent bars.

    Stuck in security checks

    Fiancee child status protection

    The answer lies with you. If you are willing to expend some time, effort to do the ONE THING that might change your situation please contact ;

    americanfamiliesunited.org

    We are in need of individuals in all congressional districts, and particularly those in districts where key Senators and Congressional Reps live.

    As Jerry Maquire said, "help me help you".
    "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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    If you opened this you are curious, when, if Family Immigration Law might change to benefit you or your family.

    Comprehensive immigration reform tanked, yet thousands if not millions of families that contain a US citizen or Legal Permanent Resident are still suffering.

    There is only one thing that can "fix" these problems for many families, and it is a legislative fix. Yes you heard right, utilizing the "SYSTEM" you can change the system. No its not easy, but the old axiom "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" is true here.

    LEGAL IMMIGRATION reform for deserving families did not happen because "the squeaky" wheel in Comprehensive was the "anti-immigration" movement.

    If you have been watching and listening, and our organization has as well as keeping someone working on the hill in the background there are still some vehicles that might carry a solution for some families. If you fall into any of the following situations, then we need you and your help;

    Immediate relative status for green card nuclear families

    Family member who needs a Waiver for 3/10 or permanent bars.

    Stuck in security checks

    Fiancee child status protection

    The answer lies with you. If you are willing to expend some time, effort to do the ONE THING that might change your situation please contact ;

    americanfamiliesunited.org

    We are in need of individuals in all congressional districts, and particularly those in districts where key Senators and Congressional Reps live.

    As Jerry Maquire said, "help me help you".
    "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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    • #3
      I wouldn't give this "organization" the used motor oil from my car....no one should be rewarded for breaking our laws just because they marry some village idiot, citizen or green card holder. Close all loopholes to immigration....no adjustment of status except from a K1 or K3, no waivers for those who are too irresponsible and stupid to obey our laws...

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      • #4
        Haha, I think the topic of this thread is clear enough to comprehend even for a naive 5th grader's intellect... the key word is FAMILY... how can one dare react when one has got none (or not capable of membership to any type of one)?

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        • #5
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
          I wouldn't give this "organization" the used motor oil from my car....no one should be rewarded for breaking our laws just because they marry some village idiot, citizen or green card holder. Close all loopholes to immigration....no adjustment of status except from a K1 or K3, no waivers for those who are too irresponsible and stupid to obey our laws... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          In this case I would agree, just look at their web site, a load of half truths and lies.

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          • #6
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
            Close all loopholes to immigration....no adjustment of status except from a K1 or K3, no waivers for those who are too irresponsible and stupid to obey our laws... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            I am sorry you are so ill informed on current Immigration Law. One of our examples is as follows;

            LPR's who are adjusting LEGALLY are the only class of LEGAL immigrants who have to wait to have a spouse follow, for 5-6-7 years. Students who have made no such commitment and H1B's can have a spouse follow immediately.

            Compounding this is the LPR Spouse cannot visit here in the US while the LPR is adjusting. The LPR has to be in the US for a significant amount of time to adjust so it limits family travel.

            We are talking about a "fix" for punishing someone for doing it LEGALLY and Correctly. We are not talking about a "loophole", but a POTHOLE and one of many in immigration law that is unfair to a certain class of immigrant.

            Laws should be fair and evenly applied to all.

            All of our provisions are to benefit a LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT or a US Citizen.

            Perhaps you are better suited to a dictatorship than a Republic. You seem to believe its within the scope of the government to determine where nuclear family members should live.

            The role of the government is to facilitate a citizens right of free association to marry and live in their own country with whomever they choose. (the exception being a terrorist)

            You obviously do not understand the underlying Immigration Law I am referring to, nor does it apply to you.
            "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
            Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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            • #7
              Someone 12



              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">LPR's who are adjusting LEGALLY are the only class of LEGAL immigrants who have to wait to have a spouse follow, for 5-6-7 years. Students who have made no such commitment and H1B's can have a spouse follow immediately.

              Compounding this is the LPR Spouse cannot visit here in the US while the LPR is adjusting. The LPR has to be in the US for a significant amount of time to adjust so it limits family travel. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



              Come on someone... you have to agree that this is unfair and needs reform. H-1 and F1 should be under the same provisions as LPR. Just because they have not been extended the right to work.. they have been given the courtesy to be with their spouses. The f1 and h1 should not be allowed either.

              I know that is what you are saying in your post, but I think RW is not really understanding what you mean.


              RW

              Immigration benefits are a benefit to the us citizen that the immigrant has been petioned by. Its not benefit to the LPR. LPR cannot have all the benefits of us citizen, otherwise there would be no need to become a citizen.

              Thats right... key word is "citizen"

              RW.. would you be satisfied if the rules were changed and h1 and f1 were subject to the same rules as LPR in a spousal situation?

              Would you then deem it as fair.


              and im sorry i have not yet had a chance to visit your site., but i will take a look at it soon.

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              • #8
                Actually, in the point of contention that's being raised here, that dependents of nonimmigrant visa holders seem to enjoy undue benefits over those of permanent residents, let me offer my humble views please. Actually, Sections of INA 201, 202 and 203 are in place that provided for the same dependents of PRs either to join or to follow the principal immigrants. But the problems on delays and very long wait time lines result from the very limited, unrealistic, and outdated annual caps for F2 categories. So, in my opinion, if our legislative branch will just be realistic enough to recognize the ever-changing times and revisit these categories, either to increase the visa allocation or altogether remove the limits, this very discrepancy that's being discussed here and now will be corrected. There is where, I think, the magic lies. In fairness, Sen. Hillary Clinton tried to introduce same exact amendment to the now defunct CIR bill this summer.

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                • #9
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
                  In fairness, Sen. Hillary Clinton tried to introduce same exact amendment to the now defunct CIR bill this summer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  That is correct Senator Clinton picked up one of our issues in an amendment to CIR.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/us...=1&oref=slogin
                  "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
                  Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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                  • #10
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 4now:

                    RW.. would you be satisfied if the rules were changed and h1 and f1 were subject to the same rules as LPR in a spousal situation?

                    Would you then deem it as fair. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    That seems a rather odd logic. What would be "fair" ? The LPR should have the benefit of having the spouse here and the H1B and F1 should wait to have their spouse's IF/when they make a commitment to citizenship like the LPR.

                    Unfortunately this one of many examples of a punitive stipulation in Immigration Law.
                    "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
                    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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                    • #11
                      dear republicanwriter: having worked in the immigration law field for several years, my knowledge and experience about these laws is miles ahead of yours...the difference you are whining about is a simple one...spouses of H1 and F1 visa holders are, by definition, residing in the US in a temporary basis..whereas a legal PERMANENT resident is living in the US PERMANENTLY (hence the title, LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT)....and an LPR does not enjoy the same benefits of an American citizen...for example, LPRs cannot vote (legally) in our elections nor hold most offices....that is life in our big cities....and the majority of spouses who lie to get tourist visas wind up abusing that privilege, which is why our embassy officials are not too trusting when these new spouses ask for the same privilege while no doubt making the same worthless promises about their intent to not abuse the visa privilege...a sad, but true fact of life.

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                      • #12
                        You may know a lot about immigration laws but you're forgetting one fascinating fact about H, L, E, and F (to H) visa categories - that they're "dual intent" visa types.

                        And due to your extensive immigration practice background, no amount of explanation is necessary to point out that holders of these visa types (commonly) utilize the Laborcert/PERM option to become PERMANENT residents themselves.

                        Let me ask you this: what part of the truism that "the most PERMANENT type of visa in the United States is a TEMPORARY nonimmigrant visa?"

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                        • #13
                          Here I'am again. What can be done with the following situation.

                          Family:
                          1.Father-green card a result of 3 year INS challenge-result cancellation of removal.
                          2. 12 yr old son-citizen.
                          3. 20 yr old son-H.S. grad-working- uodocumented
                          4. Wife-working-undodumented.

                          What can be done to achieve legal status for all?

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                          • #14
                            Chuck, to be sincere, the undocumented ones do not have a remedy as of this writing. What they can do is keep keeping on until their dad attains citizenship. Then the undocumented ones can return to their country via sneaking back through Mexico because they do not want to leave evidence of their presence here to be as though they were never here, so their father can file for them. It should not take long for them to receive their papers. The twenty year old son has a slim chance becasuse he may turn 21 soon I'm unsure what the rules are for over-21yr olds now). It is just not possible for anyone to attain legal status while they remain here, at least not yet.

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                            • #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Someone12:
                              the difference you are whining about is a simple one....

                              and an LPR does not enjoy the same benefits of an American citizen......

                              and the majority of spouses who lie to get tourist visas wind up abusing that privilege, which is why our embassy officials are not too trusting when these new spouses ask for the same privilege while no doubt making the same worthless promises about their intent to not abuse the visa privilege...a sad, but true fact of life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              1. I do not whine

                              2. Your argument has no logic. LPR's who are going through Naturalization will become citizens, keeping thier wives in another country during this time makes little sense. Eventually they will be able to come here as first preference. Why penalize them in the meantime? They have done everything the "LEGAL WAY" and yet you still take relish in punishing them. H,L, E, F have ability to have a spouse here in the "temporary" period, why would they be any less "deceptive" than the spouses of LPR's? Its actually INSANE logic if you think about it. H's for example are "temporary" VISA's so would the spouse of an H be a temp VISA, so letting them in but not the LEGAL PERMANENT is totally upside down. But now.. I suspect if you did work in "immigration field" it was on the DARK SIDE, (the governments) with this type of logic.

                              3. What the h e l l is wrong with you? Can you not just offer a repsonse without some snide and snotty smearing of people you do not even know? LPR's spouses "intent to abuse the VISA process"... what c r a p is that? They are eventually going to be able to come here PERMANENTLY. So why deny them a tourist VISA to visit a spouse? If they screw up and overstay they get barred like the rest of the VISA overstayers.
                              "Being all fashioned of the self-same dust let us be merciful as well as just"
                              Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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