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    One of the requirements of citizenship is being able to speak, read and write in English. Who are these traitors pandering to?
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    One of the requirements of citizenship is being able to speak, read and write in English. Who are these traitors pandering to?
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    • #3
      Minutemen Protest (another) Matricula Consular Card Give Away


      What is a Matricula Consular card?

      http://www.house.gov/garymiller/Matr...handFacts.html

      Matricular Consular cards are identification cards issued by the Mexican government to mainly illegal immigrants living in the United States. Currently, more than 350 financial institutions accept Matricula Consular cards as proof of identification thereby allowing thousands of illegal immigrants to have access to mainstream U.S. financial services.

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      A Representative of Mexican Consulate asked the Minutemen to leave, first stating this was a private event for "Mexicans Only." She threatened the Minutemen, and assaulted one. She insisted we could not take pictures.

      She then called the police. At first she was unable to produce the paperwork requited to use school property, then states she had no ID with her. Finally it was determined,they had the right to used the building but could not force the Minuteman from the immediate property.She was also advised anyone could take pictures in a public place. A Great, Productive Afternoon!

      Bank of America did a brisk business, one employee hid her face from pictures, but flipped us off as she left.


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      • #4
        Illegal alien vs. Predator

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kcprUAq6YQ
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        • #5
          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
          I closed my accounts with BofA years ago. For a different reason but they are being just as sleazy here. You see B of A is screwing them too. They know sooner or later there is a good chance the person will be caught. Once caught and sent home they won't have access to their account and will probably forget about it. B of A will keep the money and laugh all the way to the bank. Oh, wait,..they are the bank. Ok, to their own vault. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          Good one Davdah and very much the truth.

          There are many banks that open accounts for illegal aliens without any ID but if you or I walk into any establishment we have to show them everything but the crack of our **** before they will do business with us. Additionally, a huge part of the mortgage crisis is because of illegal aliens being given loans (Wells Fargo, Chase, BofA, Citicorp) without documentation and LIKE ALWAYS they have run away from yet another country in which they have systematically destroyed and left the we the taxpaying victims to **** up their debt. But then that's par for the course when you allow millions of illegal aliens with 3rd grade educations and the mentality of irresponsible children to masquerade as responsible adults after breaking and enter illegally and going on an endless crime spree while being allowed to remain here illegall.
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          • #6
            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
            Not a lie folks. There are plenty of illegals who bought houses under the no documentation or 'stated income' programs and are now in default. That little problem with no documentation wasn't just used to cross our border. Its been used to take advantage of many other loopholes that the average 'honest' citizen wouldn't have the lack of conscience to do. Now the mortgage industry is in a shambles especially the secondary lending market with more defaults than ever. How does that affect you? Well, if your credit isn't perfect but you make decent money your now screwed. You will not be approved. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

            Now Senor Boosh is attempting to pretend that he is sympathetic to the plight of way too many soon to be homeless Americans. The truth of the matter is he sanctioned the illegal activity of his corporate elite bank buddies and they are pressuring him to save their criminally corrupt a-sses from folding. This destruction courtesy of Messyhole is probably a deal struck beginning with Boosh and Vincente to allow illegals to purchase homes with or without TIN.
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            • #7
              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
              Beverly, that illegal alien V predator was posted once before on here. Funnier than hell. I wonder what the reaction would be if it were played on the electronic bill board at the Mexican border? Could you imagine the outcry! Oh how offensive it would be! How degrading! How beyond racist! How absolutely wished for. Oops, Freudian slip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

              You just totally crack me up. Wouldn't it though? Because we all know that America is the only country in the world who is not allowed to secure its borders and any attempts to do so automatically makes us racists.
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              • #8
                <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beverly:
                http://teamtancredo.typepad.com/team_tancredo/

                One of the requirements of citizenship is being able to speak, read and write in English. Who are these traitors pandering to? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                Technically, English is not the official language of the United States. Furthermore, the English proficiency is for naturalized US Citizens. So what do you do about US citizens coming from Puerto Rico and now live in the United States? Or perhaps for us Texicans, the debate should be in Texan?
                "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hudson:
                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beverly:
                  http://teamtancredo.typepad.com/team_tancredo/

                  One of the requirements of citizenship is being able to speak, read and write in English. Who are these traitors pandering to? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                  Technically, English is not the official language of the United States. Furthermore, the English proficiency is for naturalized US Citizens. So what do you do about US citizens coming from Puerto Rico and now live in the United States? Or perhaps for us Texicans, the debate should be in Texan? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  You make a very valid point. We both know that there are variations of English being spoken in America. Some down right ignorant versions(ebonics) and others totally improper in comparison to the original version. At the end of the day part of what has made America a pretty successful version of a melting pot has been communication in some form of English which has always been our common language/ bond.

                  For the first time in the history of America there is a large population of mostly illegal hispanics, who because of their laziness and or mental deficiencies expect us to dumb down and accept and conform to their 3rd world inferior culture.

                  Puerto Rico is part of the US. There has never been an issue with people speaking their native languages in the privacy of their homes but those who expect America to embrace their foreign language and evolve into some multicultural (SPANISH) nation are spitting in the wind. It will never happen.
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                  • #10
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by davdah:
                    I closed my accounts with BofA years ago. For a different reason but they are being just as sleazy here. You see B of A is screwing them too. They know sooner or later there is a good chance the person will be caught. Once caught and sent home they won't have access to their account and will probably forget about it. B of A will keep the money and laugh all the way to the bank. Oh, wait,..they are the bank. Ok, to their own vault. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                    What makes you think BofA will not allow money transfers once an illega alien is deported?

                    Talk about ignorance in financial protocol, law, and the subsequent regulations. Even with the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II enhancements in the financial industries, one can still open up a bank account without even stepping foot on US soil. Just need some proxies to either a legal represnetative or trusted family member, not to mention a good fax machine and a working relaitonship between the bank in the US and the bank outside the US. And even if the account is unclaimed, it will go to the state first before it goes to the bank.

                    I see no reason to deny ownership of property to anyone, even with the lack of immigration status. The stated income or "B" papaer loans will increase the interest rates, but it still comes down to the ability to pay. Furthermore, it was not just minorities, legal or illegal, that got hurt because of the greed by the subprime mortagate companies, but those who requested new credit cards, credit line incureases, line of credit, personal and auto loans, and equity loans were also affected, and this included the those who could verify their incomes. However, the suprime and traditional mortgages companies helped keep this economy afloat from 2000-2006 when ecnoomic indicators were mixed. We had decent GDP growth rates, low unemployment, and lowe interest rates but with flat real wages, low to moderate industrial production rates, and average sales grwth. What is happening now is dimilar to how the conomcy responded by the greed of the dot com companies.

                    As for the Matricula Counular card, I understand there are some issues with its authenticity, however, even if one has the card, it neither makes the person legal or illegal. Those who oppose the issuance of the card really have no legal bearing whatsoever other than animosity toward a particular government, especially the unreasonable ones.
                    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                    • #11
                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beverly:
                      You make a very valid point. We both know that there are variations of English being spoken in America. Some down right ignorant versions(ebonics) and others totally improper in comparison to the original version. At the end of the day part of what has made America a pretty successful version of a melting pot has been communication in some form of English which has always been our common language/ bond.

                      For the first time in the history of America there is a large population of mostly illegal hispanics, who because of their laziness and or mental deficiencies expect us to dumb down and accept and conform to their 3rd world inferior culture.

                      Puerto Rico is part of the US. There has never been an issue with people speaking their native languages in the privacy of their homes but those who expect America to embrace their foreign language and evolve into some multicultural (SPANISH) nation are spitting in the wind. It will never happen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                      The foreign population is large, but not that large. And a large foreign population is more of an asset to the economy of the US than it hinders it. However, the issue with English as an offical language is much more complex than you like to beleive. For me, it is strictly a state issue, but one that should not divide communities either. Notwithstanding, there are countries that have mulitple languages as its official language. One is Switzerland, India, and Canda have more than one language as its offical language. Each shows the importance and necessity having a multiple langueage because of the country's history, demographics, and influence on the respective cultures. We can take a look at the Southwest which the Spanish came first before any other European nation. Their culture is imprinted in the states of California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona. To exclude Spanish totally from the public eye is inherently dangerous. It will whitewash the past mistakes and grievances that have not been resolved yet in our lifetime.

                      As for Pureto Rico, they speak SPANISH as their primary language, yet they are still Americans by birth.
                      "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                      • #12
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hudson:

                        The foreign population is large, but not that large. And a large foreign population is more of an asset to the economy of the US than it hinders it. However, the issue with English as an offical language is much more complex than you like to beleive. For me, it is strictly a state issue, but one that should not divide communities either. Notwithstanding, there are countries that have mulitple languages as its official language. One is Switzerland, India, and Canda have more than one language as its offical language. Each shows the importance and necessity having a multiple langueage because of the country's history, demographics, and influence on the respective cultures. We can take a look at the Southwest which the Spanish came first before any other European nation. Their culture is imprinted in the states of California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona. To exclude Spanish totally from the public eye is inherently dangerous. It will whitewash the past mistakes and grievances that have not been resolved yet in our lifetime.

                        As for Pureto Rico, they speak SPANISH as their primary language, yet they are still Americans by birth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        I beg to differ and respectfully disagree on two points:

                        (a)the foreign population has exploded in this country. While many of them have become legal citizens we cannot negate the fact that a multitude of them are foreign born. The US admits more immigrants than all other countries combined, and IMHO therein lies the problem. Far too many of those do not want to assimilate or become citizens they are here to rape us economically and socially out of anger and bitterness. Most (60%) are here primarily from Mexico. The fact that they could be deported or the thought of being cut off from social services and welfare checks at that blink of the eye is the only incentive of many of them to apply for legalization; that reason alone makes millions of those who are here illegally social, economic and cultural liabilities and monumental burdens.

                        (b) The majority of occupants of the illegal alien havens that you mention are uneducated, and considered burdens in their homelands. Thus they are angry, non productive criminals, that are here under the instruction of their respective racist leaders: LaVoz De Aztlan, LaRaza, LuLac and the Mexican Government. Their sole reason for occupancy is a reconquista, again a liability from the US standpoint.

                        The problem with their misguided anger is the US won the war and paid $15 million for the rights of ownership to the land that they occupy and are claiming they still own. No amount of revisionist history will change that and its naive for them to believe that even if we were to hand it over to them on a silver platter that the have the courage, intelligence or ability to maintain as exhibited by the 3rd world cultural mess those states have become since they've become the majority.

                        As for Puerto Rico, it was not one of the original United States, its merely an anchor we purchased. The fact that Spanish is their primary language merely reiterates that anchoring oneself to another country (like granting citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens) is not a good idea and should be rescinded.
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                        • #13
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beverly:
                          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hudson:

                          The foreign population is large, but not that large. And a large foreign population is more of an asset to the economy of the US than it hinders it. However, the issue with English as an offical language is much more complex than you like to beleive. For me, it is strictly a state issue, but one that should not divide communities either. Notwithstanding, there are countries that have mulitple languages as its official language. One is Switzerland, India, and Canda have more than one language as its offical language. Each shows the importance and necessity having a multiple langueage because of the country's history, demographics, and influence on the respective cultures. We can take a look at the Southwest which the Spanish came first before any other European nation. Their culture is imprinted in the states of California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, and Arizona. To exclude Spanish totally from the public eye is inherently dangerous. It will whitewash the past mistakes and grievances that have not been resolved yet in our lifetime.

                          As for Pureto Rico, they speak SPANISH as their primary language, yet they are still Americans by birth. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                          I beg to differ and respectfully disagree on two points:

                          (a)the foreign population has exploded in this country. While many of them have become legal citizens we cannot negate the fact that a multitude of them are here illegally and foreigners deceitfully and deliberately birthing foreign children to claim citizenship status for them to enable future chain migration. The US admits more immigrants than all other countries combined, and IMHO therein lies the problem. Far too many of those do not want to assimilate or become citizens they are here to rape us economically and socially out of anger and bitterness. Most (60%) are here primarily from Mexico. The fact that they could be deported or the thought of being cut off from social services and welfare checks at that blink of the eye is the only incentive of many of them who apply for legalization; that reason alone makes millions of those who are here illegally social, economic and cultural liabilities and monumental burdens.

                          (b) The majority of occupants of the illegal alien havens that you mention are uneducated, and considered burdens in their homelands and have received maps courtesy of Vicente Fox urging them to leave Mexico and come here in order to survive. Thus they are angry, non productive criminals, that are here under the instruction of their respective racist leaders: LaVoz De Aztlan, LaRaza, LuLac and the Mexican Government. Their sole reason for occupancy is their delusional vision of reconquista, again a liability from the US standpoint.

                          The problem with their misguided anger is the US won the war and paid $15 million for the rights of ownership to the land that they occupy and are claiming they still own. No amount of revisionist history will change that and its naive for them to believe that even if we were to hand it over to them on a silver platter that they have the courage, intelligence or ability to maintain what America has built as exhibited by the 3rd world cultural mess those states have become since illegal aliens have become the majority.

                          As for Puerto Rico, it is not one of the original United States, its merely an anchor we purchased. The fact that Spanish is their primary language merely reiterates that anchoring oneself to another country (like granting citizenship to the offspring of illegal aliens) is not a good idea and such acts should be rescinded and forever stricken from reoccurrence. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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                          • #14
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How many B of A branches are in Mexico? None. The requirements for opening one of those consular card based accounts is a little different than if you or I do. Believe me, B of A is not trying to be a good buddy to these people. There may be ways for some of them to get their money if they have a relative or someone here who will help. But there will be a sizable portion who will have just a small amount in the account and will not bother with it. That or no one on this side of the fence to help them in a crisis (deportation). That is B of A's target market. Multiply it by tens of thousands and they just got an extra few million added to their vult. I haven't seen one of those sign up forms but I bet the following requirement is on it. 'The account holder must maintain a U.S. address'. If the monthly statement is ever returned I bet the account will be locked down. Funny how they are doing this about the same time enforcement has been stepped up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            Just because it was not in TJ nor did one of you wives talk about it does not mean BofA is not in Mexico, Davdah. BofA has three representative offices: Bank of America Mexico S.A, Banc of America Securities, Casa de Bolsa, S.A. de C.V., and Bank of America Asset Management, S.A de C.V. The last subsidiary is the one which most illegals would use to transfer their account assets from the US to Mexico, for a fee of course. But again, it does not have to be BofA subsidiary in Mexico which one can trasfer the money. All one has to do is open an account with one of Mexico's national bankis, send a proxy to a relative or legal representative in the States to close the aco**** and wire transfer the money directly to that bank account.

                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't know how old you are but if you remember quite a few years back there was another issue that brought B of A out into the open. It used to be that a bank could close a persons account and keep the money if there was no activity for a period of time. Most banks didn't do that but B of A did. That was one the reasons that law changed. They are just being more creative about their snatch and grab. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            Are you talking about credit cards, Davdah, more specifically, secured credit cards. or are we talking about closing accounts because the righful owner fails to communicate an interest in such. If it is the latter, it had to do more with state law on the process of abandonment of propery than it had to do with your accusation. Furthermore, it still happens today. Check this site out!

                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">It is true the subprime market helped for a short while by creating some new money. The problem is now that money isn't worth the paper its printed on. Its payback time and the pockets are empty. Guess who is going to get stuck with the bill now? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            The principle culprit was New Century although there were another half dozen other 100$ supprime mortgage companies. But it is the cost of doing business when one is too short sighted. In some cases, fraudulent activity by the mortgage company is to blame for some of the foreclosures, but for most, it was the failure by the owners to take advantage of improving their credit after they purchased the home instead of using the home like an ATM. And in some cases, the individual just fell on bad luck. But the government is not going to bail them out directly, unless you are talking about the law that was recently passed in the house.

                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Think your bank is your friend? If you bounce a check they charge 25.00 or more, right? Do you know why? Do you know what it actually costs the bank to process that bounced check? About $1.00 at most. Would you tolerate any business marking up something 2500% Probably not. But the banks know most people are ignorant of how it all works and take advantage of it any way they can.

                            Many banks are notorious for this little trick. How long does it take to credit a deposit? Even if you walk in with cash the earliest is usually the next day. Why is that? The truth is so you will go shopping and start running up NSF fees. Your debit card will probably let you do it too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
                            I think I smell a John Bircher here?

                            The reason for the bank draft charge is more punitive than acutal cost. It is meant for one not to place a burden on the good tidings of a business. Additionally, I don't think you are the kind of chap that will even let a renter slide if a check is bounced?

                            Although you cited the direct cost of processing a bad check, you fail to forget the indirect costs. First, if the bad check is not redeemed within a certain time frame, you, as the landlord, or the business owner have the legal representation to take the bounced check to the appropriate authority for adverse action. For the retailer, it is considered theft and prosecutable by the district attorney through fine, imprisonment, or both. Again, it is the cost of diong business. Of course, you can take your money and bury it in your backyard, if you wish.
                            "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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