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    Sen. Harry Reid has said he is going to make another attempt at passing the DREAM Act during the lame duck session of Congress. Reid, who was re-elected last week due to strong support from Latino Voters, will make a push in the final days of the 111th Congress. Hispanically Speaking News

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    Sen. Harry Reid has said he is going to make another attempt at passing the DREAM Act during the lame duck session of Congress. Reid, who was re-elected last week due to strong support from Latino Voters, will make a push in the final days of the 111th Congress. Hispanically Speaking News

    HS-News.com

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    • #3
      ship all illegal alien brats back to their country, and support American college students in their quest for an education....not the offspring of dirtbags.

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      • #4
        This old koot just wont stop. I hope it is the last push for this nonsense. The only way this would be acceptable for me is if it is military only for 4 years and not 2. Military deployment, not something cushy. Take a percentage of their military pay towards payment for them being illegal.


        They can go to college when they get out of the service on GI BILL



        BTW. This bill would cover I beleive anybody that arrived before the age of 16. Lots of 30 year olds would benefit, not the young teenage children that they want you to think.

        Deceptive AMNESTY

        Tell Harry to use my suggestions. Old koot

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          <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Take a percentage of their military pay towards payment for them being illegal. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

          So, the kids who were dragged across the border with no say in the matter should pay for the mistakes of their parents/guardians?

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          • #6
            and why should American college students have to compete with dirtbag illegal brats for a coveted spot in any university??? Or worse, have these children of slime be granted scholarships or financial aid while depriving an American student of this opportunity? If their parents made a 'mistake' (i,.e., they are irresponsible lowlifes), then I say let's focus on family reunification....deport them all and they can hold hands in their own country, where many universities are free....they should not be allowed opportunities at the expense of even one American citizen....nor be allowed to be awarded a green card, and eventual citizenship, whereupon they petition their "mistake-prone" parents for immigration....what bullllloney.

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              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">and why should American college students have to compete with dirtbag illegal brats for a coveted spot in any university??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

              I don't have an argument with that other than the illegal brats you refer to had no choice in the matter. Their parents should pay for their mistakes, not the kids.

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              • #8
                pay is right...the parents should either have to repay the thousands of $$$ US taxpayers shelled out for their brats education, medical care and whatever else these $hitheels scammed.....or....be deported. Simple choice....pay...or leave....and if you leave, you are permanently barred from ever receiving any immigration benefit whatsoever without exception....let's see how truly motivated these illegals are for their offspring to have a better life....if the parents had to actually exchange their money or ability to return to the US instead of fobbing the entire cost back to the US taxpayers.
                And when these illegal brats turn(ed) 18, they once again had a choice....buy an airline ticket and go back to their own country, or whine along with their irresponsible parents about how unfair our laws are (while silently thanking the US taxpayers for everything!)...sorry....the DREAM Act is a BAD DREAM for law abiding citizens, and a slap in the face for those law abiding visa holders, who don't get the same privilege (instant green card) as those who have disobeyed or ignored our laws....what's fair about that??

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                  <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And when these illegal brats turn(ed) 18, they once again had a choice....buy an airline ticket and go back to their own country </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                  Go back to whom or what? The USA is the only country many of them know since they were brought as infants. Many of them have no home, relatives, etc. in Mexico. How would they get by? I know you'll say that it's not the USA's problem, but realistically it is because the USA has an investment in these kids.

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                  • #10
                    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So, the kids who were dragged across the border with no say in the matter should pay for the mistakes of their parents/guardians? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                    Absolutely correct Proudie. This issue will drag on and on and it will not go away as some would like. Obviously the anti's hope that by dragging it out eventually the kids will be old enough so when any law is passed they won't benefit from it.

                    The "Old Koot" is right to try it again. He successfully courted the Hispanic vote and beat that witch Sharron Angle. The DREAM Act is morally right. Punish the parents yes but not the kids.
                    "What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organized visual lying."

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                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                      <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">and why should American college students have to compete with dirtbag illegal brats for a coveted spot in any university??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                      I don't have an argument with that other than the illegal brats you refer to had no choice in the matter. Their parents should pay for their mistakes, not the kids. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


                      Good idea Proud.. You are right that the parents should pay.

                      Dream Act should be this:

                      Special program for
                      Illegal kids should do 4 years military deployed so that it is possible to bring our usa troops home. This service should be without military wages to satisfy the debt they incurred to this country in order to earn conditional green card. Removal of conditions in 3 years. No fast track to citizenship from military.

                      They need money? Let the parents pay monthly payment to military fund special program for their kid to be eligible to participate in this special program. Sort of like a support payment or tuition payment. The payment from parents should be $300/400 monthof which 1/2 would go to their kids, and the other half would be to fund the program and paperwork costs and medical.


                      Get caught with drugs.. you are out of program


                      Pregnancy.. you are out of program.

                      crimes... you are out of program.

                      Model citizen for 4/5 years putting your life on the line for your country that you are claiming.

                      Win win situation.

                      After 4/5 years kids would get conditional green card on path to permanent and citizenship. Now they would get GI benefits that would allow them to go to college after service.

                      Now who has a problem with that arrangement for the dream act and why?

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                      • #12
                        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now who has a problem with that arrangement for the dream act and why? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                        The problem I see is not everyone is cut out for the military. What about those kids who do not qualify for military service due to physical or mental limitations? And, I highly doubt we will have enough qualified candidates in this pool to totally replace our servicemen and women who are currently overseas.

                        Not trying to knock your plan, 4Now. I think it's a good start.

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                        • #13
                          Five years in a combat MOS only.

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                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ProudUSC:
                            <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Now who has a problem with that arrangement for the dream act and why? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            The problem I see is not everyone is cut out for the military. What about those kids who do not qualify for military service due to physical or mental limitations? And, I highly doubt we will have enough qualified candidates in this pool to totally replace our servicemen and women who are currently overseas.

                            Not trying to knock your plan, 4Now. I think it's a good start. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

                            Then they would not qualify for the program, the same as citizen would not qualify for the military. So it is not a solution for them.

                            Of course it would not be a total replacement, We need experienced running the show. It just would allow many of our kids to come home. let these illegals show their loyalty and service by 4years military fighting for this country. This I feel deserves a green card.

                            BTW those as old as 35 will qualify for dream act as long as they were brought into country before age 16. This is just not about "youth " as it is portrayed to gsin sympathy.

                            Country first, then go to college on GI bill

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                            • #15
                              DREAM is a good idea, but I'm afraid it's got little chance, if any, for passage.

                              What I see here is a political maneuver, there's no time for this controversial bill to make it to the president's desk unless the debate is greatly restricted and the democrats act in block, something they've not done very well in the last year or so.

                              Mind you, this is controversial only because of xenophobic sentiments, if we all look at this for what it is, we can see that there's no sense in blaming kids for the actions of their parents.

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