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  • Americas want guest worker program

    Americans strongly support the presidential proposal of guest worker program for hard-working people who assimilated, paid taxes and proved they are necessary for US economy.
    Let's listen what the American people say across the states say:

    John Taylor, Florida:
    "This cook and this restaurant is very good and I do not understand why our government makes him a problem to get documented here. I and my friends eat here every week."

    Elisabeth O'Connor, Kentucky:
    "Illegal workers did a great job to fully renovate my house. Without them new construction in my town would be dead. Deport criminals not the hard-working people."

    Scott Burke, Nevada:
    "Without them my farm would be dead. I want our government to let most of the hard working people to stay here on temporary guest worker visa. Bring even one million more of them I have a job for everybody who likes to work."

    Marry Fillstein, Connecticut:
    "I am a bit surprised how beutifull the illegal hard working people renovated the roof of all casinos up here. Our supermarkets are cleaner here. They cannot compare to union workers. I would feel safer if our government let them documented. Crack on criminals, gang and drug dealers, child abuders and thieves not on hard working people. It is not their fault that the borders have been opened for decades."

    Craig Rosemary, Pennsylvania:
    "Everybody breaks the law – I do it everyday by speeding 15 miles over the limit. If caught they should just pay the penalty. If there had been a guest worker program before they would have come here legally. I am pretty sure. Seal the borders and document those who have not committed a crime. The rest get out. There is plenty of work here in US."

    As you see American want good people to stay and live here but the people to leave.

    Support guest worker program and call progressive Representatives and Senators!

    God bless America!

    God bless President Of United States Goerge Bush!

    God bless Guest Worker Program!

    Save America and vote Democratic!

  • #2
    Americans (real, patriotic ones) want guest workers sent back home, tomorrow. I will gladly drive a busload or two to the airport for free.

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    • #3
      Americas want amnesty

      American people strongly support the presidential proposal of guest worker program for hard-working people who assimilated, paid taxes and proved they are necessary for US economy.
      Let's listen what the American people say across the states say:

      John Taylor, Florida:
      "This cook and this restaurant is very good and I do not understand why our government makes him a problem to get documented here. I and my friends eat here every week."

      Elisabeth O'Connor, Kentucky:
      "Illegal workers did a great job to fully renovate my house. Without them new construction in my town would be dead. Deport criminals not the hard-working people."

      Scott Burke, Nevada:
      "Without them my farm would be dead. I want our government to let most of the hard working people to stay here on temporary guest worker visa. Bring even one million more of them I have a job for everybody who likes to work hard."

      Marry Fillstein, Connecticut:
      "I am a bit surprised how beautifully the illegal hard working people renovated the roof of all casinos up here. Our supermarkets are cleaner here. They cannot compare to lazy union workers. I would feel safer if our government let them documented. Crack on criminals, gang and drug dealers, child abusers and thieves not on hard working people. It is not their fault that the borders have been opened for decades."

      Craig Rosemary, Pennsylvania:
      "Everybody breaks the law – I do it everyday by speeding 15 miles over the limit. If caught they should just pay the penalty. If there had been a guest worker program before they would have come here legally. I am pretty sure. Seal the borders and document those who have not committed a crime. The rest get out. There is plenty of work here in US."

      Cathy Moulthy, California:
      "What a stupid idea to make somebody who overstayed a visa a criminal or a felon. Our company desperately is looking for construction workers, plumbers, electricians and the only available are undocumented workers. Let get them documented and match up willing employer with a willing undocumented worker. Deport criminals not hard working guests raising US citizens here."


      As you clearly see American people want good people to stay, live and work here but the bad ones should exit.

      Support guest worker program and call progressive Representatives and Senators!

      God bless America!

      God bless President Of United States Goerge Bush!

      God bless Guest Worker Program!

      Save America and vote Democratic!

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      • #4
        6 people out of a 295,734,134 population. (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2119rank.html).
        WOW, that is an impressive majority. These people are so well known and respected too...hmmmmmmmm

        these 6 people speak for us all?
        I'm not doubting that there are others, but please...

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        • #5
          Well. It's nice to hear everyone's opinions but Maria has no right to say what Americans want. A few quotes don't cut it. For or against, I sure don't want Maria speaking for ME. Our president's name is GEORGE.

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          • #6
            I agree with Maria.Most Americans probably 60-70% people wants some kind of Regularization of these 11 millions undoc workers.

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            • #7
              Americans want illegal aliens to go home. They want to reclaim America's sovereignty and rule-of-law.

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              • #8
                Political Splits on Immigration Reflect Voters' Ambivalence
                Americans Favor Tighter Borders but Divide on Entrants' Fate

                By Dan Balz
                Washington Post Staff Writer
                Tuesday, January 3, 2006; Page A07

                When Congress returns to the unfinished business of immigration early in the new year, lawmakers will be trying to reconcile sometimes conflicting public attitudes on an issue that has become a crusade to some conservative Republicans but has defied effective solutions over the past three decades.

                A Washington Post-ABC News poll taken in mid-December found Americans alarmed by the federal government's failure to do more to block the flow of illegal immigration and critical of the impact of illegal immigration on the country but receptive to the aspirations of undocumented immigrants living and working in the United States.

                "You wonder why politicians are not always consistent," said Republican pollster Glen Bolger. "It's because public opinion's not always consistent."

                Immigration still ranks below the war in Iraq, terrorism, health care and the economy on the public's list of priorities, but in many parts of the country -- not just those areas near the Mexican border -- it has become an issue of pressing significance because of its economic, racial and, more recently, national security implications.

                If there is any consensus today, it is on the need for enhanced border security, driven not only by traditional concerns about jobs and the strains illegal immigrants put on state and local resources but also by newer worries that the porous border makes America more vulnerable to terrorists. The public and politicians are far more divided on the difficult question of how to treat the roughly 11 million illegal migrants already in the country.

                Conservative anti-immigration advocates controlled the debate last month in the House, which passed stringent legislation calling for the construction of nearly 700 miles of fence along the Mexican border and including strict measures to police employers to prevent them from hiring undocumented workers. Critics call it the harshest immigration bill in memory.

                That bill responds directly to public anger over illegal immigration. The Post-ABC News poll found that four in five Americans think the government is not doing enough to prevent illegal immigration, with three in five saying they strongly hold that view.

                The same poll found that 56 percent of Americans believe that illegal immigrants have done more to hurt the country than to help it, with 37 percent saying they help the country. About three in five Republicans and a bare majority of Democrats agreed that illegal immigrants are detrimental to the country.

                The only groups in the poll who disagreed were people with postgraduate degrees, those with incomes exceeding $100,000 and nonwhite respondents. The Post-ABC poll did not include enough Hispanics to provide an accurate reading of their sentiment, but a Pew Hispanic Center survey last summer found that two in three Latinos said that undocumented migrants help the economy.

                Still, many Americans expressed support for trying to help those already here to stay and achieve legal status. The Post-ABC poll asked whether illegal immigrants who are working here should be given the opportunity to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status, or be rounded up and deported to their native countries. Three in five Americans said undocumented workers should be given the opportunity to stay and become citizens.

                Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster, said Americans are ambivalent on this issue. "There is a clear view that families that are here, that are working, paying taxes and contributing to society, ought to be able to get regularized status," he said. "On the other hand, there is a view about not rewarding illegal behavior."

                Public frustration is clear, and politicians have responded. In Arizona, irritation over illegal immigration spawned the controversial Minutemen movement, with citizens organizing to police the borders on their own. Democrats as well as Republicans have felt the heat. Two Democratic governors, Arizona's Janet Napolitano and New Mexico's Bill Richardson, declared emergencies along their borders and shifted state resources to local governments to help pay the costs of dealing with the phenomenon.

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                • #9
                  Americans are sick and tired of illegals scamming benefits they don't deserve (nor pay for), whining about benefits they want (and don't deserve), filling public schools with their equally worthless brats, stiffing countless hospitals around the country for untold millions or billions in unpaid medical care, depressing wages in many industries while bringing unchecked diseases into our country...Americans (real ones, that is) are fed up with illegal aliens and as a majority, want them booted out of America asap. We should start with Maria....

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                  • #10
                    This same illegals you talk about are the same illegals who help the USA become a better country: They take the jobs that US citizens don't want,they pay taxes,create more jobs, control inflation, support the retirement of our senior citizens, and are the main movers of many industries. (in them the agriculture, hospitality & constructión, just to name 3)

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                    • #11
                      US economy benifits from hard-work of 11 milions of guests.
                      Of course they broke the law by taking up the job without authorization but it was a weakness of current immigration system which did not allow for matching wiling employess with seeking workers. This system had to be bypassed in the past to balance the supply and demand for high skilled professionals in agricultute, construction and other services.
                      Those who found a job and who are needed should be allowed to stay in US on temporary guest worker program.
                      Paying $1000 for each overstayed year should suffice.
                      Get them documented because there is plenty of work for them to do to make America better.
                      Do not listen to psycho-i-diots like Someone12.
                      Someone12 is sick because he was to lazy to graduate an elementary school and now he does not want to make $7.

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                      • #12
                        This same illegals you talk about are the same illegals who help the USA become a better country: They take the jobs that US citizens don't want,they pay taxes,create more jobs, control inflation, support the retirement of our senior citizens, and are the main movers of many industries. (in them the agriculture, hospitality & constructión, just to name 3).

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                        • #13
                          [quotes, ELJEFE]This same illegals you talk about are the same illegals who help the USA become a better country: They take the jobs that US citizens don't want,they pay taxes,create more jobs, control inflation, support the retirement of our senior citizens, and are the main movers of many industries. (in them the agriculture, hospitality & constructión, just to name 3).[/quote]

                          These are weak arguments, and are usually refuted in the following way:

                          1. US citizens don't want those jobs because wages are too low, but illegal aliens are ones who illegally contribute to low wages by illegally suplying cheap labor that is illegaly exploited by employers.
                          If all illegals were deported , under market conditions employers would be forced to increase wages, as much as nesessary, to get US citizens accept those jobs.

                          [ImmortalE: One could study this matter to find out would the wages really go up, or would the countless small businesses rather close, unable to pay higher wages due to high costs of running business, and wouldn't this contribute to more unemployment, welfare use and etc.
                          While this could make a subject for good research, you can't make complicated arguments when presenting issue to wider public. Instead, you need simple and catchy slogans. And " US citizens don't want those jobs because wages are too low!" serves as short, catchy and easily comprehensible slogan].

                          2. Some of them pay taxes, but since their wages too low most of them are not taxed anyway ( or taxed at low rates, in worst cases even get Tax Credits), and they use more in public services than they could ever contribute.

                          [ImmortalE: Again, this can be better investigated but results will always be contradicting, depending on who and under what motivations investigated the matter. So, there is always going to be a debate aimed to disprove any claim that immigrants contribute more than they take. Besides, very complexity of issue (one has to know how to use statistics, go to various sourses and so on) makes it useless argument even if you succeeded in proving that immigrants contribute more to economy than use. See # 1.

                          The only potent argument so far was made by Virginian Conservative blogger, who said if welfare is the problem - then get rid of the welfare.
                          But for some reason advocates of immigrants are reluctant to echo it, or so it appears.]


                          3. "Control Inflation"?

                          [ImmortalE: Again, this takes a professional economist to analyse, and most of the average people who are concerned with immigration are not professional economists (nor should they be), so this sounds "fishy and cooked up by special interests" to them. In one word: practically USELESS argument.]


                          4. They take more jobs than they create. And by taking jobs they steal the same from legitimate applicants.
                          That's bad.

                          [ImmortalE: See # 1]



                          5. They do not support the retirement of our citizens, because at the same time the use public services at other tax-payers expense, and they take more benefits than they contribute anyway.

                          [IE: See # 1]

                          6. There were times when there weren't illegals , but agriculture and construction did exist.
                          We can do everything without illegals, and much better!

                          [IE: Nothing to argue against. Also can see # 1 ]
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                          Conclusion: As you see, ELJEFE, these are weak arguments and don't convince public that there is urgent need for unskilled workers in US.
                          They could become stronger arguments IF mass deportations/enforecemnts against employees/employers were started and IF (!) in the process it became obvious/evident to all that urgent need indeed existed.

                          Big "IF" there tells you that as of now those are NOT strong arguments, and aren't going to be so unless certain conditions are met.
                          The weakness of those arguments is also evident from latest Congressional action.

                          Americans, overall (according to resent pollings), do not oppose "Guest Worker" program that would regularise the status of those illegally employted at present time, but they only support it for humanitarian purposes (and their support is not always consistent ,as they tend to get upset with too many day-laborers standing on every street corner, and more coming every day).
                          All the while they don't see any other compelling reasons to support "Guest Worker" program.
                          Which again tells you that the arguments you cited above are practically useless and weak.

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