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    Wow, breaking news, guy!!, the amnesty will be completed no later then tommorow, senator Mccain has stated that the president will later, put his presidencial stamp on The martinez/haguel bill WOW!!! BREAKING NEWS FRESH OUT OF THE AP.HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ALSO SAID TO APPROVE THE AMNESTY PASSAGE!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS, WE WON THE BATTLE AGAINST ALIBA, SOMEONE12, SUNUSA AND ANTIFASCIST!

    VICTORY IS SWEET!!

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    Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants

    By DAVID ESPO
    AP Special Correspondent

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Republicans and Democrats closed in on a last-minute compromise Thursday on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said he had been assured President Bush supports the measure, and would publicly say so later in the day.

    As outlined, the measure would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the future flow of immigrants into the United States and offer legalized status to the millions of men, women and children in the country unlawfully.

    "We've had a huge breakthrough" overnight, said Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.




    Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, agreed, but cautioned that the agreement had not yet been sealed.

    Even so, the presence of both leaders at a celebratory news conference underlined the expectation that the Senate could pass the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades, and act before leaving on a long vacation at the end of the week.

    The developments marked a turnaround from Wednesday, when it appeared negotiations had faltered. The key sticking point involved the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, and the struggle to provide them an opportunity to gain legal status without exposing lawmakers to the political charge that they were advocating amnesty for lawbreakers.

    While final details were not available, in general, the compromise would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

    Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

    Not everyone was satisfied. A spokesman for Sen. John Cornyn said the Texas Republican was opposed to the measure. There was no immediate reaction from GOP Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona or Jeff Sessions of Alabama, two other prominent critics of earlier proposals dealing with illegal immigrants.

    Beyond the illegal immigrants, there were other t***** issues to be clarified. Senate leaders had yet to publicly unveil draft legislation to make sure that only legal workers were hired in the future, for example.

    Nor was it clear what type of assurances, if any, Democrats had received from the White House and Republicans about compromise talks with the Republican-controlled House later this year. The House has approved legislation limited to border security, and while GOP leaders have signaled support for a broader measure, Democrats have expressed concern in recent days that they will be pressured to make unacceptable additional concessions to achieve a final compromise.

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    Wow, breaking news, guy!!, the amnesty will be completed no later then tommorow, senator Mccain has stated that the president will later, put his presidencial stamp on The martinez/haguel bill WOW!!! BREAKING NEWS FRESH OUT OF THE AP.HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ALSO SAID TO APPROVE THE AMNESTY PASSAGE!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS, WE WON THE BATTLE AGAINST ALIBA, SOMEONE12, SUNUSA AND ANTIFASCIST!

    VICTORY IS SWEET!!

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    Congress Nears Deal on Illegal Immigrants

    By DAVID ESPO
    AP Special Correspondent

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate Republicans and Democrats closed in on a last-minute compromise Thursday on legislation opening the way to legal status and eventual citizenship for many of the 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said he had been assured President Bush supports the measure, and would publicly say so later in the day.

    As outlined, the measure would provide for enhanced border security, regulate the future flow of immigrants into the United States and offer legalized status to the millions of men, women and children in the country unlawfully.

    "We've had a huge breakthrough" overnight, said Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.




    Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, agreed, but cautioned that the agreement had not yet been sealed.

    Even so, the presence of both leaders at a celebratory news conference underlined the expectation that the Senate could pass the most sweeping immigration bill in two decades, and act before leaving on a long vacation at the end of the week.

    The developments marked a turnaround from Wednesday, when it appeared negotiations had faltered. The key sticking point involved the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, and the struggle to provide them an opportunity to gain legal status without exposing lawmakers to the political charge that they were advocating amnesty for lawbreakers.

    While final details were not available, in general, the compromise would require illegal immigrants who have been in the United States between two years and five years to return to their home country briefly, then re-enter as temporary workers. They could then begin a process of seeking citizenship.

    Illegal immigrants here longer than five years would not be required to return home; those in the country less than two years would be required to leave without assurances of returning, and take their place in line with others seeking entry papers.

    Not everyone was satisfied. A spokesman for Sen. John Cornyn said the Texas Republican was opposed to the measure. There was no immediate reaction from GOP Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona or Jeff Sessions of Alabama, two other prominent critics of earlier proposals dealing with illegal immigrants.

    Beyond the illegal immigrants, there were other t***** issues to be clarified. Senate leaders had yet to publicly unveil draft legislation to make sure that only legal workers were hired in the future, for example.

    Nor was it clear what type of assurances, if any, Democrats had received from the White House and Republicans about compromise talks with the Republican-controlled House later this year. The House has approved legislation limited to border security, and while GOP leaders have signaled support for a broader measure, Democrats have expressed concern in recent days that they will be pressured to make unacceptable additional concessions to achieve a final compromise.

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    • #3
      Great news Jean2005!! Good will always prevail!
      Thanks for keeping us up to date.

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      • #4
        would be Kyl's amedment included?
        we don't want criminals and deportees in the bill ! just illegal cross-border walkers!

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        • #5
          ELJEFE, my fellow soldier, we fought side by side supporting this amnesty, and the taste of the champagne is soo sweet. Leave no undocumented immigrants behind, make sure that everyone hear the good news of the upcoming amnesty.

          During 1986, a lot of migrants missed the amnesty because they didnt hear anything, but make sure that everyone knows about the amnesty, we want everyone to apply for this, i want all 12 millions to get the amnesty.

          Im going to chinatown tommorow to make sure all chinese illegals know that the amnesty will soon be anacted, no later then june..i will also travel to little-haiti in miami florida to make sure that all haitians know that the amnesty will soon be enacted...we need to let all undocumented migrant know about this amnesty so that they dont miss it because if they do miss it, then it will be it and i fear This might be the last amnesty.

          LEAVE NO MIGRANTS BEHIND, IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS IN THE U.S ILLEGALLY, TELL HIM THAT THE AMNESTY IS COMING VERY FAST.

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          • #6
            Th spirit of compromise MUST continue. Remember, the House and Senate MUST reconcile the two propsals before ANYTHING happens.

            A VOTE in both the SENATE and HOUSE must happen and PASS on a reconciled bill before it is sent to Pres.Bush to sign.

            Common sense and level heads among immigrants, citizen and lawmakers MUST prevail. IMHO, It will.

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            • #7
              The Senate battle is supposed to be the EASY one for amnesty supporters, Jean. Just how do you think this is going to play out in reconciliation? In votes in the House and Senate?

              It ain't over til the fat lady sings.

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              • #8
                Just to add to what you call "good news" it must be said that under the initiative brief departures to from the U.S. do not preclude continuous presence. If this is applied in the context of INA, it simply means that single absences of less than 90 days with an aggregate of less than 180 days will not stop physical presence.

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                • #9
                  If common sense prevails there will be no amnesty until the borders are secure and employer verification is in place. If there is not strong border enforcement, all Americans will see is a repeat of 1986, and try having the reps explaining that to their voters. They haven't even managed to get this through the 100 person Republican dominated Senate without major battles. What do you think the 500 person House is going to be like?

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                  • #10
                    Did you look at that "compromise" closely, Jean. If you haven't been here more than 5 years, effective Jan. 2004, you're out of here, either immediately (if you've been here less 2 years) or in 3 years if you've been here more than 2 but less than 5--effective Jan. 2004. At a guess, most of the ones who've been here more than 5 years already have some route to legalize, either through a spouse or child, or the 2001 245i amnesty.

                    As I've said on other threads, this is bound to cause dissension among those illegal aliens and their supporters pushing for a complete amnesty.
                    Do you think they'll support it, knowing that they or theirs have to leave? And of course, to get it through the House, they'll probably have to have much tougher enforcement provisions than we've had to date--maybe even felonization of those who come across the border illegally or overstay visas from now on. Who knows what the reconciliation will produce.

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                    • #11
                      Jean2005, you are a complete idiot and a scumball. You obviously haven't spent enough time being illegal in my country to realize that this bill will probably never see the light of day. This is all election politics with all those up for re-election trying to portray themselves as pro-illegals so that they can get the Hispanic vote.or should I say the last generation of illegals granted amnesty back in 1986. I pray to god that people of this great nation wake up and see what the democrats are upto..........trying to make illegals legal in order to get their votes.

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                      • #12
                        paddy and aliba, you guys need to stop with all this rethoric..House members have already stated that they will compromise and that the felon charges will be dropped including the wall of china...The senate has strong border security and this is all house members needed....The tancredo's group will vote against the bill, but like ive alays stated,those 50-60 members arent needed because they are in the minority inside the house plus this is about numbers and when you have all democrats + 3/4 of the republican base voting for the comprehensive bill, you don thave to be an expert to see that the numbers are on our side..

                        The president is expected to later on, put his presidenial stamp on the bill and this will increase pressure on house members that are still undecided....The union, chamber, and religious group have already agreed on the haguel/martinez bill, so they arent any problem with them because they understand that the mccain/kennedy bill is dead and its either haguel/martinez or nothing...

                        Sen.bill frist, leader of all senate republicans has also stated that at least 49 of the senate 55 republicans, will vote for the haguel/martinez bill and all he needs is a few democrats to vote for this and according to minority leader, sen.reid, he will approve the bill.

                        also, aliba and paddy- you guys needs to understand how much power a majority leader has...A majority leader has to be able to get the vote needed to pass a bill in his own party, and any majority leader that cant do that, shouldnt be a majority leader...This is why frist is good at it and rep.john boehner, who has strong ties to the chamber and union(which are for the haguel/martinez) has said that he's open to compromises.

                        You need to remember that john boehner voted against the house bill that criminalises 11 million people and boehner is now the house majority leader, so you really think people in the house will break rank to vote against the bill? also break rank to their own G.O.P party line just to make a point..you really hink they they will have the gut to vote No on a bill that fix our border or leave the border open for the time being??

                        if you think that the house will vote down the haguel/martinez bill when the bill is being sponsored by 2 republicans in the senate + the president, then you are nuts...i will go on the line by saying, i will be shocked if the house refuses to make compromises.The amnesty will be enacted june 15th 2006.

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                        • #13
                          You mean a party leader, the way Frist did this time? You mean this bill, which is far from what Specter was pushing? Which is far from the total amnesty that the McCain-Kennedy bill offers? This bunch has compromised down the line, and has now crafted something they can live with. Ironically, though, as I pointed out above--is this something that illegal aliens will accept. Is this something AMERICANS will accept? Will several million of them "report to deport", which is what this bill does. The ones here 2-5 years could stay 3 years with a temporary work visa, then would have to go to a border town outside the U.S. to apply for a new one, which would not be guaranteed. The ones here less than 2 years would have to leave the country soon, and could apply for a temporary work visa, with no guarantee of getting it. Some would win, some would lose. What does Bishop Mahony think of this? The illegal alien lobbies? Are they waving banners of joy? Or, pushing for full amnesty?

                          Do you really think 500 Reps are going to risk their seats this fall by giving amnesty to illegal aliens? What the party chair wants is secondary to what they think will get them elected this fall. Many Republicans are already worried about losing to Democrats this fall--I can just see them calculating the odds.

                          Furthermore, "compromise" is the point. If the Senate wants to legalize any part of 11 million people, it may well have to felonize any that come after, or any that do not participate in the program. Remember, the House bill is about ENFORCEMENT. To get what it wants, the Senate may have to give something--that's what compromise is about by definition.

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                          • #14
                            It will never happen Jean you illegal little t-u-r-d. There is absolutely nothing in the senate bill that addresses the issue of security. I actually think that at the end of all this that no bill will exist. I am positive that if this was not an election year then the house bill would have had a better chance of becoming law. Tell me one thing Jean, what is your opinion of all those people who actually immigrated to the USA the legal way and all the hardships they had to endure to get through the process. What gives people like you the right to think you are above the law and that you deserve the chance to live here legally

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