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  • Illegal Aliens.

    My biggest question is:

    Do people that come LEGALLY to the United States, but overstayed their permit, are considered Illegal Aliens as well?

    I mean, I know they are illegals, but the question at hand is: How bad is it?

    People that come through an airport, has passed customs and the immigration officer, I believe they are "better" than people that cross the border illegally.

    I have a friend that is here for 5 years. He's not a felon, he never even had a parking ticket. He works, pays taxes, speaks BETTER english than most of US. Now he's afraid that he's gonna be kicked out of the country for some ****** immigration reform.

    I read the news and see that people that fit the profile of my friend, will more likely have a chance to get their status of ILLEGAL changed to LEGAL resident of the U.S.

    I agree that they should put a fence up, so people we don't know can't cross the border.
    Not everybody that crosses the border is a criminal, but since we have no control whatsoever of who gets in or out, I think it is reason enough to put the fence up.

    Now making it a crime for people who are here illegally, it doesn't make any sense. They actually broke the law, but they didn't commit any big crimes, such as raping a girl, or killing someone. Now I shouldn't generalize all people. Some of them DO commit crimes and they should be kicked out of the country.

    Let's not forget that looking back at your ancestry, I'm sure you'll find an immigrant background in your family.

    I just wanted to ask you guys that and post my thoughts. Thank you very much.

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    My biggest question is:

    Do people that come LEGALLY to the United States, but overstayed their permit, are considered Illegal Aliens as well?

    I mean, I know they are illegals, but the question at hand is: How bad is it?

    People that come through an airport, has passed customs and the immigration officer, I believe they are "better" than people that cross the border illegally.

    I have a friend that is here for 5 years. He's not a felon, he never even had a parking ticket. He works, pays taxes, speaks BETTER english than most of US. Now he's afraid that he's gonna be kicked out of the country for some ****** immigration reform.

    I read the news and see that people that fit the profile of my friend, will more likely have a chance to get their status of ILLEGAL changed to LEGAL resident of the U.S.

    I agree that they should put a fence up, so people we don't know can't cross the border.
    Not everybody that crosses the border is a criminal, but since we have no control whatsoever of who gets in or out, I think it is reason enough to put the fence up.

    Now making it a crime for people who are here illegally, it doesn't make any sense. They actually broke the law, but they didn't commit any big crimes, such as raping a girl, or killing someone. Now I shouldn't generalize all people. Some of them DO commit crimes and they should be kicked out of the country.

    Let's not forget that looking back at your ancestry, I'm sure you'll find an immigrant background in your family.

    I just wanted to ask you guys that and post my thoughts. Thank you very much.

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    • #3
      Protoman-

      You must be kidding! OF COURSE THEY ARE BOTH ILLEGAL ALIENS!

      "People that come through an airport, has passed customs and the immigration officer, I believe they are "better" than people that cross the border illegally."

      Have you forgoten that the 911 hijackers were here on legal visas. Please!

      Regardless of how your "friend" arrived in the U.S. he is still in violation of our laws and is no better than the illegal border crossers. Our country legally welcomed him with open arms and in return he spit in our faces by not honoring the conditions of his permit. Which is worse, the thief who breaks into your home undetected and robs you blind or the person who you welcome into your home only to have him robs you blind?

      Talk about the "good ol" double standard!

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      • #4
        99.99% of illegals are Arab-Muslim terrorirsts !

        911 highjackers wouldn't blow up WTC if they weren't illegals !

        Every single illegal chose to be illegal - because he/she wanted to spit on our faces and break our laws !

        Under INA statute being illegal per se is a crime comparable to murder and/or robbery of a bank !

        Anything short of brick ovens is AMNESTY !

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        • #5
          DHS estimates that about 350,000 dirtbags aliens arrive each year with tourist visas and overstay because of their lack of responsibility as an adult, because they are liars and visa cheats (not because of our 'unfair laws'). This number could easily be higher; that was just an estimate I read last year. Scum is still scum, no matter how you spell it.

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          • #6
            I am also sick of illegal lying dirtbag scumbags !

            Praise be to Someone12 !!!!
            The most honest and honorable member of our forum and of whole planet Earth !!!

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            • #7
              First of all, imigrants are people same as US citizens. They come here for a better life. They work twice as much as an american. It's not fair that because of some stupid imigrants that happen to be terrorist for the rest of the people to suffer.

              I pray to God that you Someone 12 and LieMastaer get a brain test and think of more why these people are forced to come in this coutry. They come here for a better life and you should not talk like that, You should be ashamed of yourself, u r probably some stupid american with a narrow mind, open ur eyes and see around you.

              God should teach u a lesson.

              You are such idiots no common sense whatsoever.

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              • #8
                You must be a dirtbag supporter or a dirtbag yourself !
                Get out of our board now !

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                • #9
                  Dear ola81: please point out where in our laws it says anyone can lie, cheat or steal their way into MY country and take any old job they want.....that is all you have to do...just point to the law...otherwise, these dirtbag, scum***** have NO right to be here....in case you were sleeping through Govt 101, we have laws to protect our borders, to decide who can enter the country legally and for what purpose...there are no laws that award irresponsible border-jumping visa cheats a green card just because they are looking for a better life....so are some 9 million Americans looking for work, you unpatriotic idiot. America is for Americans, not for those who show NO respect for our laws. Whining illegal alien supporters like yourself obviously have IQs in double digits, which is why village idiots like yourself often marry illegals...because you are so desperate, ugly and stupid.

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                  • #10
                    Praise be to Someone12 !

                    Hold dirtbags feet to the fire !

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                    • #11
                      Ola,

                      LEGAL immigrants ARE the same as U.S. citizens. People who overstay their visa, work without permission, enter without inspection, etc. are breaking the law. Lawbreakers should not be rewarded for bad behavior. The drug dealer may be selling drugs just to "feed his family" does that mean he shouldn't go to jail for doing something illegal? There are a million rationalizations for breaking the law. I don't believe it's okay to say that I did whatever I had to (including breaking several immigration laws) to get here but NOW I'm prepared to be an upstanding member of this country. The ends don't justify the means.

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                      • #12
                        Thank you, BronzeLady !
                        That's exactly MY point !
                        Under INA overstaying visa or/and being illegally in US considered the same as selling 5 tons of heroine or murdering someone !
                        Yes, being in US illegally with your USC children and LPR wife is no less of a crime than murdering someone or selling drugs or robbing a bank !!!!!!
                        We need more of super-smart and full of wisdom people like BronzeLady, so we could quickly fix all the problems we face !

                        Praise be to BronzeLady!!!

                        www.fairus.org forever !!!

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                        • #13
                          Dear someone,

                          First of all the law does not say to go and kill people just for fun, or molest kids but that does not mean they will not do it, that is ilegal.
                          Me myself i came here as a student and i am an american citizen, that does not make me a "dirtbag" I won my way in and i deserve a lot more respect that a lot of american born and raised here. I am assest to this country, iam no killer, no scumbag and of course i have succeded, and for your information i have a very high IQ score, I am a CPA for God's sake, there are alot of americans that haven't even finished high school, they don't know anything about nothing only america. What i agree with you (anti imigrants) is that people that have criminal record should no matter be ligalized or given the chance to survive int his coutry. I admit that. But there are so many people, imigrants that study hard pay more then $100k for their education and the government won't do anything about that. And if you are saying that we are taking your jobs..... then think twice because imigrants work twice as much as you do, if you are lazy that's a different story

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                          • #14
                            Another dirtbag supporter is posting here !

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                            • #15
                              Lie Master,
                              Act as a grown up, its not necessary to call me names, i have done anything to you to call me that. Unlike you i have dignity i don't go around and call people names just cause they have different opinions.

                              And BronzeLady i admire the way you wrote down your opinion.

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