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    Hi people!

    What will happens with people who are in united states 8-10years illegally ,to they get better benefits from guest workers program?

  • #2
    Hi people!

    What will happens with people who are in united states 8-10years illegally ,to they get better benefits from guest workers program?


    • #3
      No, they will be the same slaves as they are now.


      • #4
        The guest worker program, as proposed, offers a visa valid for 6 years for people who want to participate as guest workers (add a year or so for processing). Then after those 6 years the person can apply for LPR status (add another year or so). Then at the end of 5 years as LPR the person could apply for citizenship. The complete process from illegal alien to citizen should take some 12 to 15 years.


        • #5
          Bush reassures Fox on immigration bill
          U.S. President George W. Bush reassured Mexican President Vicente Fox on Thursday he was ''committed'' to getting the U.S. Congress to approve broad immigration reforms, including a guest worker program.

          Speaking after talks with Fox in the Mexican resort of Cancun, Bush told reporters: "I'm confident we can get a bill done." He made no prediction on the timing of such legislation, which the U.S. Senate started debating on Wednesday.

          Bush also praised Fox for pledging to do more to police the U.S.-Mexican border, the crossing point for most illegal immigrants entering the United States.

          "I'm committed to having a comprehensive immigration bill on my desk, and by comprehensive I mean not only border security, a bill that has border security, a bill that has security enforcement in it, but a bill that has a worker permit program in it," Bush said.

          Hosting a North American summit, Fox said border security was a shared responsibility and Mexico would do its part.

          Mexicans account for more than half of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

          "We want a safe border. We want it for the good of our people and also for our relationship with the United States," Fox said.

          Bush also met new Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, a fellow conservative who wants to improve relations with Washington after friction during the administration of his predecessor Paul Martin.

          Republicans are split on whether to back Bush's call for sweeping reforms to create a guest worker program and put several million illegal immigrants on the path to citizenship.

          Conservatives in Bush's party, normally his allies, reject that as a form of amnesty and seek instead to erect a fence along a third of the U.S.-Mexico border and make illegal immigration a felony. The issue has brought out tens of thousands of mostly Hispanic protesters in major U.S. cities.

          With his job approval ratings at a low point, immigration is a new test of Bush's political strength at a time when his second term has been beset by woes.

          ONE LAST PUSH

          Fox, who has failed for five years to convince Washington to let more Mexicans get jobs in the United States legally, is making one more push before leaving office in December.

          Bush, Fox and Harper toured hot, dusty ruins at the Mayan archeological site of Chichen Itza ahead of meetings.

          But the leaders climbed only a few of the 91 steps of the impressive El Castillo pyramid.

          It was a rare sightseeing detour for Bush, who usually keeps to a tight diplomatic schedule, and raised speculation he was trying to revive a back-slapping relationship with Fox that saw them dubbed "the two amigos" at the start of their administrations.

          Bush and Harper agreed to open talks on a long-running trade dispute over Canadian exports of softwood lumber and the Canadian leader spoke frankly about past diplomatic discord.

          "Iraq in particular has been a source of some disagreement, some tensions," Harper said. He praised the role of the U.S. and British military in the recent freeing of Canadian hostages in Iraq, saying: "This reminds us that when the chips are down, we all come together to support each other."

          Despite an increase in anti-U.S. feeling in Latin America in recent years, there were few protests in the resort, which is far from major Mexican cities and too expensive for most Mexicans to stay in.

          About 50 anti-globalization protesters chanted "Bush, Murderer," at a demonstration in downtown Cancun, some 10 miles

          from the plush hotel strip where the leaders met.

          Mexicans once had high hopes for Bush, who took office promising to make America's southern neighbor a priority but pushed the region to the back burner after the September 11 attacks.

          Mexican marines dressed in black patrolled Cancun's beach beside topless tourists. Spring break college students are fewer this year, with many hotels still closed after last October's Hurricane Wilma.


          • #6
            Sen. Cornyn is arguing about his amendment to require applicants to leave the U.S. to apply for a guest worker program visa. I'm surprised that the Senator from TX has not mentioned the immense burden that would face USCIS with millions of applications, instead he makes an argument basically comparing H1-B visa applicants with guest workers. The fact that the individual is currently in the U.S. is not, by itself, a negative factor when being sponsored as a qualified worker; BIA has ruled on this, Arai is the foundation of the guest worker program. The argument comparing a guest worker with an H1-B applicant has finds no legal foundation. While H1-B can adjust status guest workers cannot. It's ridiculous simply comparing two different visas targeted at different sectors of the alien population. Even when the visas are the same, special circumstances are considered, see the abysmal difference between the process for immediate relatives of LPR and USC who seek an immigrant visa.
            The Senator's concerns are valid, IMHO I believe he should argue his cause in a different way.


            • #7
              Sen. Sessions mentions that the law is not being applied (very true), that's why the law has to change. So let's change to another law that won't be applied either. This is funny, how can the nation expect a realistic solution when these people don't sound like they know the law at all! He said that nobody checks criminal records looking for deportable offenses. NOTHING in the new laws, not even H.R. 4437 changes the procedures for background checks. The problem is that the checks are done poorly, it's not a legal problem it's a problem of procedures, this has nothing to do with the so-called "amnesty".


              • #8
                Congress is discussing the bill but mainly the guest worker program provisions. The bill is very similar to the Frist bill when it comes to enforcement. That part is most likely to be passed with little difficulty.
                It's hard to believe that Congress will miss an opportunity to turn INA into some effective, modern instrument. Instead, it'll be patched once again with incomplete legislation and some redundant provisions.
                Although the McCain bill does include a more modern approach to immigration, there's much more to be done and in the words of Congress, "it can be done, and needs to be done".