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    I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my girlfriend is an international student on F-1 status. At the end of her F-1 status she going to use her one year of OPT time to work and if the firm she is with does not sponsor, then she must leave the country. This is my understanding. My questions are as follows: what rights does the child have and what can I do to keep her in the country short of marriage.

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    I am a U.S. citizen by birth and my girlfriend is an international student on F-1 status. At the end of her F-1 status she going to use her one year of OPT time to work and if the firm she is with does not sponsor, then she must leave the country. This is my understanding. My questions are as follows: what rights does the child have and what can I do to keep her in the country short of marriage.

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    • #3
      I am assuming the child is yours. If so, get married and file the I-130 with the I-485 for to adjust the status to permenant resident. Not marrying the woman with whom you are going to have a child shows recklessness, ineptness, and general laziness on your part.

      If the child is born in the US, then the child is a US citizen and receives the full benefits dictated to any US citizen.
      "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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      • #4
        Not marrying the woman with whom you are going to have a child shows recklessness, ineptness, and general laziness on your part.
        This is nothing but medieval prejudice.

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        • #5
          OK IE<
          then why does one have *** without paying for it, assuming the man and woman are not married?

          IT is obvious that the person cares for her enough to help her to a point, but if she goes back to her country with the child, I have a feeling the father of the child will not support the child nor see the child. I see this as abandonment. The father does not want to be inconvenienced with a marriage, child, and family. If so, then he should not have had *** in the first place unless he was paying for it. It is also the reason why I wrote the laziness part. Furthermore, there are many culture, mainly Asian and Hispanic, that look down upon *** before marriage. It is not medievel prejeduce, but a difference on culture.
          "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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          • #6
            To pay for s e x is to have s e x with a prostitutte.

            To imply that s e x outside of marriage is s e x with prostitute (hence asking "why not pay for it") is to show what an ignoramus you are.
            And yes, yours are medieval prejudices.

            There are over 6 billions of individuals on planet Earth.
            Are you intimately familiar with the detailed circumstances of each so you could make so broad judgements?
            No, you aren't.
            So, judge not what your brain is incapable of knowing.


            To OP:
            Have your gf consult professional Immigration Attorney.

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            • #7
              So anti-farse, failure to control sexual urges is NOT a medieval concept, while the concept that people should take responsibility for thier sexual actions is? Thanks for the laughs.

              If someone illegaly enters the US, I doubt you would say that s/he should not take responsibility for that irresponsible mistake. Why is procreation any different?
              Have a nice day

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              • #8
                Laugh as much as you wish, but you mix unmixable subjects.

                Noone says that people shouldn't take responsibility for their s e x u a l actions.
                Under our Law and Constitution noone can rape, sodomize another human being or molest a child and if one does such thing then one is held fully responsible for such actions.

                However, this has nothing to do with OP question.

                For some reason OP doesn't want or can't get married and it's none of your or my business WHY the two want to have a child and can't get married.
                Nor does US Constitution bar free people to conceive a child, either within or outside of matrimony.

                To impose on others your own personal beliefs, judgements and standards that are not part of US Constitution is indeed to demonstrate what an arrogant ignoramus you are, no matter who you are or who you think you are.

                There are millions of reasons why couples do and do not marry - yet you can't think of more than few.
                How can you judge so bluntly not knowing all the circumstances and reasons in each individual case?

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                • #9
                  He should maarry the mother of his child. Marriage is not just a LLLUUUUUUVVVVV issue - it is basic security - for the child. I would like to believe that men are human beings and have control of their parts, despite societies medieval belief that it is men's job to rape, pillage, and destroy with no consequences or control. If he has no respect or caring for the person he slept with and helped to conceive a child - then he was just treating her as a (free) prostitute. He should have kept it in his pants.

                  His choice is to either do the right thing (marry her and apply for immigration benefits) or pay for her to go home with her baby. Little does he know that many countries enforce maintenance for their children (even if the parents are unmarried) and the enforcement crosses international boundries! If she is smart, she will file for the paternity/maintenance in court. Hopefully, she is not from a place where she will be stoned or murdered for having a baby out of wedlock. But that won't matter to AF1 - after all - freedom of the p e n i s is guaranteed under the constitution. And dcypher can go on to impregnate more women for whom he has no respect or caring and offers no dignity.

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                  • #10
                    If anybody dreams of devising Time Machine - please leave your efforts and simply visit www.ilw.com board where souls of long past "Dark Age" people keep posting some ridiculously funny things

                    Hopefully, she is not from a place where she will be stoned or murdered for having a baby out of wedlock.
                    Yeah, hopefully !

                    But looks like a lot of people on this board would love to stone to death parents of children born out of wedlock.

                    But that won't matter to AF1 - after all - freedom of the p e n i s is guaranteed under the constitution.
                    A lot of things matter to me, including US Constitution , it's principles and my close family members.
                    What doesn't matter to me at all is what stupid people think of me.


                    I personally am NOT married father of two USC children - and I can NOT marry for reasons different from OP, reasons that are beyond my control (and I won't disclose those reasons to you on this board).

                    As a matter of fact I am aware, from my own personal experience, that sometimes individuals have reasons that none of you could ever dream of - yet those are very valid and potent reasons preventing one from doing one or another thing.

                    Unless you know the individual and those individual circumstances, how can you judge?
                    In fact by doing so you can only demonstrate your own arrogance and foolishness and nothing else.

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                    • #11
                      To pay for s e x is to have s e x with a prostitutte.

                      To imply that s e x outside of marriage is s e x with prostitute (hence asking "why not pay for it") is to show what an ignoramus you are.
                      And yes, yours are medieval prejudices.

                      There are over 6 billions of individuals on planet Earth.
                      Are you intimately familiar with the detailed circumstances of each so you could make so broad judgements?
                      No, you aren't.
                      So, judge not what your brain is incapable of knowing.
                      IE,
                      I am not enforcing my beliefs on anyone. I offered an opinion on what the person should do. What he does with the information is up to him and no one else.

                      Second, a majority of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslim, and Jews believe, generally, that *** before marriage should not occur. The cultures have varying reasons such as family honor, religious beliefs, sociological normality, and so forth. And in most cases, *** before marriage normally occurs when it is understood that the man and woman will eventually marry. When the significant other becomes pregnant, society, like the family will pressure the couple, or at least the daughter to marry; otherwise, the girl may be ostrasized by the society. And even my wife, who comes from a culture more than 5000 years, has held the same belief that *** before marriage brings harm on the family. It took me a couple of years understand the basic reasoning and meaning of that statement, so do not even attempt to understand that statement since you are not Chinese nor married to one.

                      So, do you really think you understand culture since you have not experienced it. And going to Epcot or to a local Chinatown is not experiencing the culture of another country. You may experience some particular aspects of the culture and mixed cultures betwen the host country and the ethnic group, but have never experienced the whole culture until you live there or visit the other country for an extended time.
                      "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                      • #12
                        Please don't lecture me on culture and experience, Hudson
                        There are few people out there as experienced and deeply aware of cultural peculiarities of various peoples as I am.
                        And this is not a boast but simple matter of fact.

                        Moreover, just how silly and foolish most prejudices [commonly veiled under pretence of "culture"] are I grasped mostly thanks to my broad and extensive experience, knowledge and life among the peoples of different culture.

                        What I like about America is that it is enlightened State, one which is Governed by Constitution and truly Christian Values , not dark prejudices of hypocrits who are ready to stone to death anyone at convenience.

                        And remember what Christ said to those who wanted to stone Mary Magdalene to death!

                        And don't you ever dare to tell me that Christ wasn't Cultured man, or that He didn't know what He was talking about or that you know better what is Right and what is Wrong.


                        Now stick your little wiggling tail between your behind and begone from this thread.

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                        • #13
                          IE,
                          YOu have not shown intellectual prowess, but intellectual ineptness on culture and cultural values. Nor have you answered the question about ***. I specifically stated not paying to have *** since that would indicate a service and differntiates the mutual relationship between a man and a woman having intimacy. Nor am I arguing the merits or legitimacy on prostitution. I was specifically asking why have ***. You failed that miserably. Most "experts" would have taken great pleasure defining the different meanings of *** and sexual reltionships. But you did not and fail to do so even now.

                          You are boasting about your abilities you can anccont accomplish. I have seen nothing citing you as an expert on culture and cultural affairss
                          "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre

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                          • #14
                            Hudson, keep smoking your 80 Kilos and have fun posting here again

                            I have no time to watse with brick-head

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                            • #15
                              iperson,
                              I personally am for marriage of men and women who have/want to have children and I think it's gravest failure when married/living together couple parenting a child gets separated/divorsed.
                              Marriage of parents is good for children, it's good for family and for society and latter is nothing without it's backbone which IS FAMILY.

                              However, no matter what I think, I also know that under US Constitution it's State given Right of each individual couple to chose their own way in life and it's none of my F-ing business to preach other adults how to conduct their private life.

                              On top of that I withhold even my personal opinion in case of OP since I have no idea WHY he doesn't marry the woman he wants to have a child with and I have no way of knowing all the particulars of the case.
                              I simply advised him to consult professional immigration attorney.


                              End of story.

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