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  • #31
    NEITZSCHE ! HURRICANE ! WOTAN ! WAGNER ! TSUNAMI !

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Someone12:
      every scumball hanging around a 7-11 should be holding a valid green card or heading back to Mexico.
      I applaude the Minutemen...true patriots, unlike these whining illegal alien dirtbag supporters.
      What are the day laborers afraid of, if they are legally authorized to work in the US? Where are their VALID (not bogus) green cards? (up their a$$)
      Editorial
      In Defense of Day Laborers
      NY Times
      Published: March 28, 2007
      In cities and suburbs across America, the confluence of homes, big-box stores and striving immigrant men has created an informal, often unruly job marketplace that has survived every effort to ban it or harass it out of existence.

      This market, of Latino day laborers, is hardly the only manifestation of the shadow immigrant economy, but it is the hardest to ignore. These are the immigrants whom localities seem the most desperate to subdue, usually with laws against loitering and job solicitation. A Los Angeles suburb, Baldwin Park, is the latest of dozens to tackle the problem, with an antisoliciting bill written broadly enough to cover cookie-selling Girl Scouts but really meant for the Latino men at Home Depot.

      Such crackdowns are constitutionally dubious and usually fail, and some lawmakers are having doubts about them. Last week, on Long Island, the Suffolk County Legislature defeated a bill to drive away day laborers by forbidding them to "obstruct" county roads. The majority understood that the dimly reasoned measure would have simply diverted workers and contractors' trucks onto other roads while inviting civil-rights lawsuits. It would not have reduced the population of day laborers the least bit.

      It was a good outcome for a bad bill, but the county is still stuck where it has been for years "” wondering how to handle a volatile mixture of men and trucks in a suburb that wishes they would go away. A good next step for Suffolk would be to come around to a solution that other communities have tried, with generally positive results: a hiring site.

      One can oppose illegal immigration and still approve of hiring sites, places where laborers can find shade, toilets and a safe place to negotiate jobs with contractors and homeowners. The most obvious reasons are crowd control and traffic safety.

      But an equally compelling reason is that hiring sites impose order on free-market chaos. An unregulated day-labor bazaar wallows in the mud flats of capitalism, benefiting sleazy contractors and fostering rock-bottom wages and working conditions for all laborers, legal or not. Hiring sites that register and monitor contractors and laborers can hold them all to account. Employers who undercut competitors and rob workers will find it hard to return to a well-established hiring site, and drunks and belligerents among the laborers will be pressured to toe the line. These places are sometimes called "shape-up sites," an apt term in more ways than one.

      Some lawmakers have gotten over the notion that hiring sites are gifts to illegals, and have concluded that approaching day laborers as community members, with rights and civic responsibilities, is smarter than ranting about them as pests. It is heartening that some local officials are willing to confront the realities of a flawed immigration system and to work responsibly to lessen its troublesome side effects.

      Then there are those who hold out hope that with just one more crackdown, one more ticketing blitz, the men who make our suburbs gleam will take their sweat and muscle elsewhere and leave us alone to tend our homes and hedges by ourselves. Government officials on Long Island, as elsewhere, have tried stiff-necked hostility to day laborers, and have reaped years of failure. They should consider hiring sites as the next, positive step "” one that promises not only to be practical and humane, but also effective.

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      • #33
        Illegal...
        haven't heard of any crimes committed by the Minutemen, but I have heard of plenty by illegal aliens and smugglers along the border, including a few deadly crashes attributed to them, and of course the infamous incursion by drug smugglers "dressed as" the Mexican military with firepower.
        ...and not ALL of the illegal aliens do these things...
        What is "discriminatory" is for Mexicans or anyone else to believe they have a right to enter the U.S. illegally, and work illegally while the rest of the world has to go through ports of entry and while they and we obey our laws or risk penalties.
        Why do you believe is only Mexicans?? They are the majority but not all of the illegal immigrants...
        As for Mr. Gempler's comments, well, you might be interested to know that a fruit company in the Northwest just lost a RICO suit for hiring illegal aliens, and paid a $million fine. You can bet that that is prompting the offer of $9 an hour and the use of a guest worker program, BUT it proves nothing except that wages need to be higher to attract Americans. Also, growers on the West Coast have had a problem getting and keeping even illegal farm workers because these guys leave for jobs in construction paying $12 an hour, without the stoop labor. So, using the guest worker program, probably H2-A, is actually a bargain for the growers
        Are we forgetting that the USA has also to compete with other nations that have a cheaper cost in their products??? Or do you think that the USA can sustain itself away from the rest of the world???
        Profiling...
        Yes there is profiling. You are brown, in consequence then you are an undocumented immigrant, the same when they see a white dude then is a gringo... I wonder how lucky all the illegal European, Japanese, Chinese people, etc, must feel...
        Once again...There is not absolute truth here.
        I see that albatross is one of those 'intelligent' impaired....illegal aliens are not a race, you ignorant moron....they are a disease
        ...lets ask the Jews about the racists....let me see...illegal or Nazis?? Which ones is a true disease???

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Someone12:
          every scumball hanging around a 7-11 should be holding a valid green card or heading back to Mexico.
          I applaude the Minutemen...true patriots, unlike these whining illegal alien dirtbag supporters.
          What are the day laborers afraid of, if they are legally authorized to work in the US? Where are their VALID (not bogus) green cards? (up their a$$)
          Editorial NY Times
          In Defense of Day Laborers
          March 28, 2007
          In cities and suburbs across America, the confluence of homes, big-box stores and striving immigrant men has created an informal, often unruly job marketplace that has survived every effort to ban it or harass it out of existence.

          This market, of Latino day laborers, is hardly the only manifestation of the shadow immigrant economy, but it is the hardest to ignore. These are the immigrants whom localities seem the most desperate to subdue, usually with laws against loitering and job solicitation. A Los Angeles suburb, Baldwin Park, is the latest of dozens to tackle the problem, with an antisoliciting bill written broadly enough to cover cookie-selling Girl Scouts but really meant for the Latino men at Home Depot.

          Such crackdowns are constitutionally dubious and usually fail, and some lawmakers are having doubts about them. Last week, on Long Island, the Suffolk County Legislature defeated a bill to drive away day laborers by forbidding them to "obstruct" county roads. The majority understood that the dimly reasoned measure would have simply diverted workers and contractors' trucks onto other roads while inviting civil-rights lawsuits. It would not have reduced the population of day laborers the least bit.

          It was a good outcome for a bad bill, but the county is still stuck where it has been for years "”wondering how to handle a volatile mixture of men and trucks in a suburb that wishes they would go away. A good next step for Suffolk would be to come around to a solution that other communities have tried, with generally positive results: a hiring site.

          One can oppose illegal immigration and still approve of hiring sites, places where laborers can find shade, toilets and a safe place to negotiate jobs with contractors and homeowners. The most obvious reasons are crowd control and traffic safety.

          But an equally compelling reason is that hiring sites impose order on free-market chaos. An unregulated day-labor bazaar wallows in the mud flats of capitalism, benefiting sleazy contractors and fostering rock-bottom wages and working conditions for all laborers, legal or not. Hiring sites that register and monitor contractors and laborers can hold them all to account. Employers who undercut competitors and rob workers will find it hard to return to a well-established hiring site, and drunks and belligerents among the laborers will be pressured to toe the line. These places are sometimes called "shape-up sites," an apt term in more ways than one.

          Some lawmakers have gotten over the notion that hiring sites are gifts to illegals, and have concluded that approaching day laborers as community members, with rights and civic responsibilities, is smarter than ranting about them as pests. It is heartening that some local officials are willing to confront the realities of a flawed immigration system and to work responsibly to lessen its troublesome side effects.

          Then there are those who hold out hope that with just one more crackdown, one more ticketing blitz, the men who make our suburbs gleam will take their sweat and muscle elsewhere and leave us alone to tend our homes and hedges by ourselves. Government officials on Long Island, as elsewhere, have tried stiff-necked hostility to day laborers, and have reaped years of failure. They should consider hiring sites as the next, positive step "” one that promises not only to be practical and humane, but also effective.

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          • #35
            newsflash: the Minutemen are not, repeat, not breaking or violating US laws....but scumbag illegal aliens are...so, to the so-called patriotic Americans who support illegals, why do you turn your backs on your fellow countrymen because they are following and helping to enforce our laws???? please...tell us all how patriotic MinuteMen are somehow worse or less deserving than illegal aliens? For those of you who really believe that illegal scumbag aliens should be rewarded while the Minutemen should be punished should turn in your blue passport and move to some third world kraphole and enjoy life elsewhere...you don't deserve to be an American citizen.

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            • #36
              THE MINUTEMEN ARE TRUE PATRIOTS!!! I SALUTE THEM AND THANK THEM. According to El Jefe (The Boss) the Mexican who opposes them, the are shameful, but, shameful to who, who, who? and like ALL MEXICANS he brought up their favorite word "racism". The minutemen should be assisted by all of us, law abiding citizens.
              to Rambo and every damm illegal alien in the U.S. GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!! Your own countries are supposed to support you, THEY have an OBLIGATION with you, not us, when will you get it thru your sick skulls. We have MILLIONS of people who SHOULD

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SunDevilUSA:
                I am a legal immigrant to America, and I support the Minute Men.

                I have had conversations with Minute Men volunteers here in Phoenix, Arizona, and they are hard-working Americans who are opposed to illegal alien law-breakers.

                ELJEFE: You bring up the subject of alleged racial profiling. Let me ask you: are you equally opposed to racial profiling by hispanics, which is something that I see every single day? Isn't it racial profiling when hispanic immigrants automatically speak Spanish to anyone who appears to be Hispanic, instead of speaking to them in English? This form of racial profiling and discrimination occurs to my friends every single day, even though they don't speak one word of Spanish (and neither they should).
                You don't have ANY justifiable comparison there.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Someone12:
                  I see that albatross is one of those 'intelligent' impaired....illegal aliens are not a race, you ignorant moron....they are a disease.
                  I see you're still an angry hateful person with no life to speak of - enjoying this "bashing illegals" hobby of yours loser?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Someone12:
                    newsflash: the Minutemen are not, repeat, not breaking or violating US laws....but scumbag illegal aliens are...so, to the so-called patriotic Americans who support illegals, why do you turn your backs on your fellow countrymen because they are following and helping to enforce our laws???? please...tell us all how patriotic MinuteMen are somehow worse or less deserving than illegal aliens? For those of you who really believe that illegal scumbag aliens should be rewarded while the Minutemen should be punished should turn in your blue passport and move to some third world kraphole and enjoy life elsewhere...you don't deserve to be an American citizen.
                    Minutemen are nothing but preoccupied racist busy-body vigilantes that need to get a life. If they are so concerned about illegals let them take it up with our government and leave the Mexicans alone. You don't see any minuteman fools patrolling the Canadian border, do you?

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                    • #40
                      Minutemen are nothing but preoccupied racist busy-body vigilantes that need to get a life. If they are so concerned about illegals let them take it up with our government and leave the Mexicans alone. You don't see any minuteman fools patrolling the Canadian border, do you?
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                      Oh yes they are! See this article dated 4/1/07 from the Seattle Times.

                      http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...uteman01m.html

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                      • #41
                        President Reagan passed an AMNESTY in the 1980's to END THE PROBLEM WITH ILLEGALS. Did it work? No! why? because we are too weak, too afraid of closing that border once and for all. Mexicans, Philipinos, Africans, Russians, Orientals, Central Americans, Cubans, Haitians, etc. know this, so they keep coming because they know about our lack of courage and step on our country, our laws, they ab-use every **** benefit that belong to US CITIZENS and LEGAL RESIDENTS. Philipino get to the mainland via Hawaii, Mexico and Canada. Mexico is the most putrid country in this hemisphere and allow everyone to cross the border, the mexican "authorities" look the other way as long as they get paid.
                        to Rambo and every damm illegal alien in the U.S. GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!! Your own countries are supposed to support you, THEY have an OBLIGATION with you, not us, when will you get it thru your sick skulls. We have MILLIONS of people who SHOULD

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                        • #42
                          And speaking of losers, has anyone been in New York lately? I went to Manhattan for vacation. What the **** happened to the capital of the world! all you see are Africans EVERYWHERE, they cannot speak English nor they are trying to learn, they come from real primitive countries, full of contagious diseases, for God's sake they come from TRIBES! the NYPD knows they are illegal, the Mayor knows, but...
                          to Rambo and every damm illegal alien in the U.S. GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!! Your own countries are supposed to support you, THEY have an OBLIGATION with you, not us, when will you get it thru your sick skulls. We have MILLIONS of people who SHOULD

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                          • #43
                            Have you been to Brighton Beach in NY? that's another place invaded by low class, poor, uneducated Russians. Never have I seen SO MANY PHARMACIES!!! what are these people up to? everyone knows that the KGB has made a home there and they muscle in their own people, but...
                            to Rambo and every damm illegal alien in the U.S. GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!! Your own countries are supposed to support you, THEY have an OBLIGATION with you, not us, when will you get it thru your sick skulls. We have MILLIONS of people who SHOULD

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