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    S. 955
    Support Immigrant Fairness Restoration Act of 2001: Introduced by Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Bob Graham (D-FL), S. 955 would provide comprehensive reform of the 1996 immigration laws, including: eliminating mandatory and indefinite detention; eliminating the bars to admissibility for unlawful presence; restoring waivers of certain grounds of inadmissibility established by the 1996 laws; and restoring due process, proportionality, judicial discretion, and judicial review to immigration law.

    H.R. 3894
    Support Restoration of Fairness in Immigration Act of 2002: Introduced by Representative John Conyers (R-MI), H.R. 3894 would restore due process by repealing the retroactivity of IIRAIRA, restore judicial review and discretion, eliminate mandatory detention, and otherwise restore fairness and proportionality.

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    S. 955
    Support Immigrant Fairness Restoration Act of 2001: Introduced by Senators Edward Kennedy (D-MA) and Bob Graham (D-FL), S. 955 would provide comprehensive reform of the 1996 immigration laws, including: eliminating mandatory and indefinite detention; eliminating the bars to admissibility for unlawful presence; restoring waivers of certain grounds of inadmissibility established by the 1996 laws; and restoring due process, proportionality, judicial discretion, and judicial review to immigration law.

    H.R. 3894
    Support Restoration of Fairness in Immigration Act of 2002: Introduced by Representative John Conyers (R-MI), H.R. 3894 would restore due process by repealing the retroactivity of IIRAIRA, restore judicial review and discretion, eliminate mandatory detention, and otherwise restore fairness and proportionality.

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    • #3
      Support these bills!

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      • #4
        Is it fair to allow aliens with phony passports to remain in the US legally? Is is FAIR? I ask you.
        Is it fair to allow aliens with fake papers to live and work and steal jobs from US citizens? Is it FAIR? I ask you.
        Is it fair to allow teachers to teach their students that violating US laws, direspecting US borders, evading authorities, using fraudulent papers to steal jobs from US citizens is ok if one person thinks it's ok? Who gets to choose? Are these the values we want our children to learn?
        TEll your class about your "husband" who invaded our country with his phony papers and how you want to help him stay in the US because you think he is somehow deserving, because our laws are not to your liking. Explain that one to your classroom.
        Explain the word "ethics" to them.
        Explain the word "law" to them.
        Show them, in the constitution of our land, where it says that you get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore.
        Explain to one of them who may cheat on a test that he or she will be punished, but your husband, who cheated his way into the US should be given a break.
        Or, tell your class that cheating is OK, as long as any one member of the class thinks it is...after all, who are you to decide?
        Tell your class how unfair it is that the mean old US of A has these "laws" that require a person to provide LEGITIMATE documentation to be lawfully admitted to the US and how, gee, it should be OK for some people to use fraudulent papers and that all questions about who these people are (the selected few) are to be chosen by you.
        Tell your neighbor, who may have lost his or her job to your illegally present husband with his fake papers that you are really sorry that he stole their job, but that our laws are unfair...explain that to the guy or girl's kids who don't have enough money for food or birthday gifts or whatever because your husband stole that job with fake papers....please, explain this to those kids (or, are those kids less deserving because they are not in YOUR class - the classroom of fairness, equity and adherence to the laws of the United States of America?).
        I promise you I have written my representatives with my thoughts on this issue, over and over and over again.
        I would love to sit in your classroom and ask these questions of you.

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        • #5
          I would love for Juju to answer these questions in this forum.

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          • #6
            Please guest show some compassion ...
            And by the way, the person Number one responsible of a kid is the parent...don't rely on their teacher 100% ...so I hope you're doing a good job at home Teach them tolerance..compassion ..love..etc..

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            • #7
              compassion? What about the sancitity of our borders? Perhaps JuJu thinks we should eliminate all regulatory controls over our borders. Why bother to enforce passport/identity/visa controls?Why not let anyone into the US? Or perhaps JuJu thinks she should get to decide to crosses our borders and gets a green card? What are her qualifications?
              Can someone with 1 gram of common sense out there explain to the forum why we should support those who blatantly violate our laws? What about the law-abiding folks waiting their turn for a visa?
              I challenge the readers and contributors of this forum to explain in a logically consistent manner why the US should reward those who commit fraud, use fake papers and passports to enter the US and steal jobs and residency.
              Please, show us the letter you would write our legislators - explain to them why you think that passport control is such a bad idea and how its elimination will enchance the security of our borders?
              Well, ??????????

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              • #8
                Guest1 I do not think that she is trying to destroy our border security, but trying to re-unite her family. I am in the same situation and would love for my family to live or even visit the USA. I am a US citizen myself and I will support the bills that she is supporting. That makes 2 of us and I am pretty sure there are more than just 2 US citizens who will support those bills as well. We won't our families here, just like you have yours here.

                -Leader

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                • #9
                  leader and juju i was in same situation my husband was sent home to get papers and then faced 3/10 ban but we never made it to appt. he had an accident 4 days after arriving in his "home" country and sadly passed away, but it has been 2.5 years now and i am still active in trying to see if immigrants are being treated fairlu. i recently had a baby with a man who is in same situation but we are not going to marry unless 245 is brought back i am trying to avoid the same 3/10 ban. anything i can do to help please let me know!!! i went on and sen letters for the ones you are supporting, please do the same for the 245.

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                  • #10
                    YES COMPASSION... I am waiting for a visa in my home country and I do not hate those who tried to get before me because of fraud or whtever...and please stop talking about stealing JOBS and PROPRIETIES..god how stupid you sound then...
                    little jobs are not for what you call USC because
                    no USC want to clean dishes or do gardens...
                    High Tech jobs are taken over by immigrants indian
                    because they are better qualified otherwise we would never have brought them to the USC on a visa
                    H1..and do not tell me these indian are less paid than a USC for the same job...not all of them ..trust me on this
                    I agree with you that law is law and should be respected...but even thoses who made law have some
                    compation sometimes...why did they invent WAIVERS
                    then ? Could you tell ???
                    SO pleaseeeeeeeeeeee stop talking about stealing
                    whatever...NONSENSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    God you sound so SOUR...did someone married you just to get his green card than left you ???
                    well if it's the case, I feel sorry for you...not all immigrants are like that,,,some marry for real love and go through HELL to get reunited with their love ones....

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                    • #11
                      Just to make myself REALLY, REALLY clear for the last time - I never said it was OK to come into this country illegally. Never. I never said that people should not be punished for breaking the law. I NEVER EVER said that we should not have passport and border control.

                      Thank you to everyone else who contributed to this discussion, and thank you for sharing your stories. People need to know that someone who breaks a law once, for whatever reason, is not necessarily some evil person who should be banished forever. Most are hardworking, contributing members of society. I suggest everyone go to www.deemangeez.com and read the story of this family. Tell me these are bad people who don't deserve a second chance, and I'll tell you who the liar is. And there are many, many other stories like theirs.

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                      • #12
                        so JuJu, what should the penalty be for someone who enters the US with a fake passport and/or visa? A $20 fine? $150 fine? Suspension of their Blockbuster membership for 30 days?
                        Is a five year ban too much? A one year ban?
                        If there is not supposed to be much of a penalty, where is the incentive to obey our laws?
                        If controls are reduced to meaningless levels, then who will get visas? Only the rich?
                        The well connected? Who decides? How?

                        How important is the control of our borders?
                        You are certainly correct in that many people who have committed armed robbery or murder (in some form) have gotten off relatively light - and I don't like that any more than you may. Plea bargaining and *****ie defenses have resulted in neglible penalties for some rather vicious crimes.
                        I think that is totally unfair. What is the appropriate penalty for what your husband did? I do not have an exact answer. But, I am only saying that if there is a penalty then it should be paid until such time as higher authorities than you and I decide differently. You and I have differing opinions about this issue, no doubt, but I do not like to see the cheapening of immigration benefits by waiving every contrary behavior that people have tried in order obtain said benefit. What does that say to the folks who have been waiting or are still waiting their legitimate turn?
                        And no (to the other contributor (ab?) I did not marry anyone for a green card nor has anyone married me for same.
                        I am concerned when a group of people think that border controls are somehow harmful to our nation. In light of 9/11 that idea seems ludicrous. Even before 9/11 that notion would have been idiotic. What nation on earth allows anyone to cross their borders and get benefits by using fraudulent papers and then asks their citizens to look the other way?
                        Please note that I have never ever said that I am against LEGAL immigration. I am not. There are plenty of LEGAL ways for people to obtain work visas or fiancee visas or whatever. Maybe in some people's minds there are not enough - perhaps that it is true. But shortages should not be made up by allowing people to come to the US with fake papers and then get the same benefits as those who obey the law.
                        Are family members often separated due to our laws? Sure - but why? Usually (although I admit not 100% of the time) one party has violated one or more of our laws - so - whose fault is that? The lawmakers or the lawbreakers?
                        If someone overstays a visa, whose fault is that? Congress? The Senate? Mine? Yours? No, the person who decided to overstay. How often was that person chained to a wall somewhere and thus could not leave when required? I would bet virtually never. So, what prevented that person from complying with our laws? In reality, nothing except self interest and the erroneous idea that in spite of ignoring the rules that they are somehow entitled to the bonus prize anyway.
                        And if your argument is that all sins should be forgiven, then what happens to controls? Regulations? Order instead of chaos?
                        Indeed your husband picked an especially bad time to use fake papers and get caught; i.e. after 9/11. But with our nation on alert, well, what can anyone expect who tries the same thing? A free green card? No way.

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                        • #13
                          6 months in prison seems fair to me. Which is what he's serving, with time already spent in detention. This is not the issue. The issue is that he will be my husband, the immediate relative of a USC, yet he will not be able to return to this country for TEN years because they count his time of being here illegally while he is incarcerated and waiting months for a court date. THIS is the issue. This goes for people who came here legally and fell out of status and then leave as well, not just people who came here illegally.

                          Even if he had come here legally, let his status lapse, and married me, they would not let him return for 3 or ten years if he left the country.

                          If one doesn't leave the country after coming here legally and letting their status lapse, and gets married, there is no three or ten year ban. How is that fair? We have no problem with letting ppl out of status stay, as long as they don't step one foot out of the country. Put one foot over the border, and BAM! Ten year ban on you - USC family or no. It's all nonsense. These ppl who contrive these laws are not thinking things through, or they really don't know the laws very well. They keep piling more and more crap on until even they can't follow the maze anymore. How are we and our immigrant friends supposed to understand them if the people who make and enforce these laws can't even tell us how to enforce them?

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                          • #14
                            Well spoken JuJu.

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                            • #15
                              :}

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