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Just issued by the US State Department, a pamphlet on non-immigrant workers rights


In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move - Douglas Adams
 
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The USC's Rights???

FORGOTTEN!!!

Come steal My Home, My Property, Break 15 Laws, Even Kill. And you Have Protection!

I Was Kinda picky about keeping things Neat and tidy, So If You wouldnt Mind Please maintain What Was Once Mine, Now yours!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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The USC's Rights???

FORGOTTEN!!!

Come steal My Home, My Property, Break 15 Laws, Even Kill. And you Have Protection!

I Was Kinda picky about keeping things Neat and tidy, So If You wouldnt Mind Please maintain What Was Once Mine, Now yours!


Hold the horses, MIR! This is not about USCs this is about people that come here on a visa. That statement is so stupid I don't even want to bother. Are you drunk or something?


“...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire
 
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Just issued by the US State Department, a pamphlet on non-immigrant workers rights


Thank you so much for posting this gov't doc.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net...-minimum-wage-48378/
 
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The USC's Rights???

FORGOTTEN!!!

Come steal My Home, My Property, Break 15 Laws, Even Kill. And you Have Protection!

I Was Kinda picky about keeping things Neat and tidy, So If You wouldnt Mind Please maintain What Was Once Mine, Now yours!


Hold the horses, MIR! This is not about USCs this is about people that come here on a visa. That statement is so stupid I don't even want to bother. Are you drunk or something?


Non immigrant workers rights, Just shared the first thing that Came Into mind. Thousands of Discrepancy's Favoring Immigrants and Zero protection and Rights for USC.


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Thousands of Discrepancy's Favoring Immigrants and Zero protection and Rights for USC.


I'm fairly certain this goes both ways. Both USCs and immigrants alike can be at the mercy of USCIS. Many different scenarios involved.


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
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MIR, don't be so quick to assume this to be an anti-legal smack in the face.

Assume for a moment you are an employer. What just happened to your discounted hourly rate motivation to hire an illegal? All that exists now are punitive measures for hiring those whom you weren't supposed to.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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MIR, don't be so quick to assume this to be an anti-legal smack in the face.

Assume for a moment you are an employer. What just happened to your discounted hourly rate motivation to hire an illegal? All that exists now are punitive measures for hiring those whom you weren't supposed to.


I Vented!! The Words shared Can be Taken many ways. not The posters Words, The Information Shared within The links. I Am FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION!! HIGHLY AGAINST THOSE THAT MANIPULATE AND SQUIGGLE THROUGH THE LOOPHOLES CREATED BY OUR OWN IGNORANT APPOINTEES!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Should have been an applause, not vent. This makes it clear anyone working has certain rights.

In a very good way it will help the overall problem of abuse in wages and mitigate the attraction of sneaking across the border.

It removes that which gave employers reason to usurp those legal in favor of illegal. In short. If you have to pay someone 8.00 an hour regardless where they came from. Who's it gonna be, illegal or legal? Especially given the fact hiring illegals comes with the possibility of a retaliatory ICE raid by the legal.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Should have been an applause, not vent. This makes it clear anyone working has certain rights.

In a very good way it will help the overall problem of abuse in wages and mitigate the attraction of sneaking across the border.

It removes that which gave employers reason to usurp those legal in favor of illegal. In short. If you have to pay someone 8.00 an hour regardless where they came from. Who's it gonna be, illegal or legal? Especially given the fact hiring illegals comes with the possibility of a retaliatory ICE raid by the legal.


I read several times. Where I reside Many rules Are Not Same. Or Better EXP. The Rules are same Just Not enforced! (COMMONWEALTH)!!! Question? Whats Worse? The criminal? Or the system itself??? My Words Shared Comes From being Too close To The Soarce!! Wash. D.C. And Surrounding area. Always Protected From the Real statistic!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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The employers are put on notice. Granted, there will be those who ignore them and continue to hire the illegal at 4.50 an hour. What do you think will happen once the illegal finds out he can get back pay for the last year at 8.00 per hour? No worries about the state labor board calling ICE? PAYDAY!

Sure, the employer will get whacked with a back pay order. Be kind of hard to collect it though, when deported. Anonoymous calls and all.

From that point forward the employer will probably start asking one question. 'Where were you born?' East L.A. ain't goin to cut it, LOL. People usually have to learn their lesson the hard way. This is one.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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California and East Coast "Capital" Very Different!!
East coast Wash. metropolitan area swept Under the Rug!!! Statistically hidden. Too Close To Political power!!!

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/...ed_States_of_America

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state

http://articles.gourt.com/en/C...h%20(United%20States)

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-commonwealth.htm

And NO!!! You do not want to Reside In a commonwealth State Today!!!

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USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Several US states have commonwealth designation. These are Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania. The commonwealth designation was important as these states originally defined their governance in direct opposition to the governance of the British Empire. The designation now lacks meaning and has merely been retained as a salute to the past history of rebellion that freed the US from British rule.



Commonwealth is for the most part old school. As in hundreds of years ago it meant something. As it pertains to immigration it means less with immigration being a federal issue. Ok, maybe if the British try to invade again the meaning may have a renewed interest. Last time I checked, didn't see any tri-masted ships or iron clads in the harbor, LOL.

Used to be in the commonwealth of PA. Not much different than anywhere else. If different, how so?




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Several US states have commonwealth designation. These are Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania. The commonwealth designation was important as these states originally defined their governance in direct opposition to the governance of the British Empire. The designation now lacks meaning and has merely been retained as a salute to the past history of rebellion that freed the US from British rule.



Commonwealth is for the most part old school. As in hundreds of years ago it meant something. As it pertains to immigration it means less with immigration being a federal issue. Ok, maybe if the British try to invade again the meaning may have a renewed interest. Last time I checked, didn't see any tri-masted ships or iron clads in the harbor, LOL.

Used to be in the commonwealth of PA. Not much different than anywhere else. If different, how so?


We Decide Our own Way (Commonwealth)!!! We = not the people!!!
Corruption!!! $$$$$. politically Protected! Within Wash. Taxation without representation!!!
District Of Columbia!! Source!!! Would only Require 3 years Of residency Within The commonwealth Or District of Columbia To Realize!!!! Penn. not Even Close!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Several US states have commonwealth designation. These are Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania. The commonwealth designation was important as these states originally defined their governance in direct opposition to the governance of the British Empire. The designation now lacks meaning and has merely been retained as a salute to the past history of rebellion that freed the US from British rule.



Commonwealth is for the most part old school. As in hundreds of years ago it meant something. As it pertains to immigration it means less with immigration being a federal issue. Ok, maybe if the British try to invade again the meaning may have a renewed interest. Last time I checked, didn't see any tri-masted ships or iron clads in the harbor, LOL.

Used to be in the commonwealth of PA. Not much different than anywhere else. If different, how so?


I think it has to do with internal affairs of the state. The townships and how taxes are collected. I happen to work in PA and pay taxes directly to the township. That is not in NJ or NY where tax dues go to the state and are distrubuted to the townships through the state. Not sure, but I think it would be the reverse order for a commonwealth where the state gets tax dues from the townships.

Well, the code word being internal affairs! I didn't look it up, it's just what I remember from school.


“...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire
 
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Especially given the fact hiring illegals comes with the possibility of a retaliatory ICE raid by the legal.


And steep fines to boot.


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
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Especially given the fact hiring illegals comes with the possibility of a retaliatory ICE raid by the legal.


And steep fines to boot.


Maybe "Proud" (A Local) could Share Why the Township of Alexandria Or Fairfax County (Commonwealth) Would Be In This day and age extremely Undesireable??? I myself Seek Other Places!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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The USC's Rights???

FORGOTTEN!!!

Come steal My Home, My Property, Break 15 Laws, Even Kill. And you Have Protection!

I Was Kinda picky about keeping things Neat and tidy, So If You wouldnt Mind Please maintain What Was Once Mine, Now yours!


Hold the horses, MIR! This is not about USCs this is about people that come here on a visa. That statement is so stupid I don't even want to bother. Are you drunk or something?


Drinking??? Of Coarse!!! LOL!! Even that can be Overcome By Closing one Eye!!! Wink. within The brain There are two hemespheres. alcohol Manipulates and Brings together both sides With Flaws in Vision! Close one Eye And Use Either or!!! Clarity!!! Wink. Close off one hemesphere To once Again See Clarity!!! A Patch Over one Eye??? Scientific Knowledge extreme!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtiXiYMS86U

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USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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The USC's Rights???

FORGOTTEN!!!

Come steal My Home, My Property, Break 15 Laws, Even Kill. And you Have Protection!

I Was Kinda picky about keeping things Neat and tidy, So If You wouldnt Mind Please maintain What Was Once Mine, Now yours!


Hold the horses, MIR! This is not about USCs this is about people that come here on a visa. That statement is so stupid I don't even want to bother. Are you drunk or something?


Drinking??? Of Coarse!!! LOL!! Even that can be Overcome By Closing one Eye!!! Wink. within The brain There are two hemespheres. alcohol Manipulates and Brings together both sides With Flaws in Vision! Close one Eye And Use Either or!!! Clarity!!! Wink. Close off one hemesphere To once Again See Clarity!!! A Patch Over one Eye??? Scientific Knowledge extreme!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtiXiYMS86U


Let's talk about Commonwealth, I think it would be an interesting subject. I also like to know in detail what MIR implied with regard to immigration.


“...I may condemn what you say, but I will give my life for that you may say it”! - Voltaire
 
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Even I don't see any problem with this document except the part that says you have the right to fair treatment. I can name a number of jobs where I did not get fair treatment, and there is no recourse for that unless you have a strong and able union. Otherwise unfair treatment could be your lot. However, the rest is ok, because that deals with the law. Unfair is much too general a term. It appears that DOS is giving out rights that it cannot give. Suppose I am a non-immigrant worker and the office provides coffee, but I don't drink coffee? That is unfair. DOS needs to edit that publication.
 
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