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Saying things like "who hasn't lied to the government" will keep some people who might could help you from speaking up, if there IS a way to help you that is.

Hopefully you are keeping any records that you have, or copies, of anything pertaining to your entry into the country. Passport, I-94, etc.
 
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rewarding liars and visa cheats will only ruin the gene pool of America. You and your filthy lying family try to justify your irresponsibility by pointing to others ... what's next, robbing banks? Why do you think it is OK to lie to our government and lie to get a privilege? It's just too bad if you can't get this privilege legally...that is life...go back to your own ****water country and try to make it better instead of lying, cheating and violating our laws....your lowlife parents are in violation of our laws every day...they are here (like you) without permission, and are working with fake papers....scum....nothing but lowlife trailer-trash scum...that is what you and your flea-infested family are....and sorry, but you have no path to citizenship and do not deserve any benefit ahead of others playing by the rules (and I notice, like all douchebag dirt bag illegals, you avoided answering my question about why you should be considered ahead of those other folks)....one has to get a green card first, and most do this by applying outside their country, unlike visa-cheating manure-wipes like you and your family.
 
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I'm not 100% white so I hate racist remarks. But this time, I call this Someone12 a White Trash. There was one who asked if there's a moderator...well, he's been sleeping on his job for too long. Otherwise, s h i t s like this Someone12 wouldn't be able to join.
 
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macyuhoo,

While I saw someone12's language was offensive and rude..I don't know where you got "racist."
"Douchebags, Filthy, Manure-wipes etc. are not racial terms. However YOUR "white trash" is a racist term! So what do you have against white people?
 
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Nothing against white people 'cause I'm part white. I hope I'm a white native like you. You're still new around here not to know what kind of trash this Someone12 is. I suggest that you check other threads and review this AH's comments. You'll be shocked to read his statements that were not only racist, but inhuman.
 
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Hm and anyone else reading this. Ignore the rude, ignorant, and obscene posts by those such as Someone12. He knows not what he speaks of and thats about as ignorant as one can be. There are boards that DO NOT tolerate such behaviour and are moderated. Suggest you take that option unless you want to continue swimming with the sharks and be misinformed.

As has been said already, until you reach 18 years of age, you are not in any trouble. You are not responsible for your parents actions by them bringing you to the US illegally as a child. If you are wanting to sort this out so you can be in the US legally you will need to first leave the US before you turn 18.
 
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As I mentioned earlier, Someone12 is among the notorious immigrant bashers here. Never for once did he gave a decent advice. Instead, he keeps ridiculing, attacking, insulting posters most of whom have serious immigration problems that need our help. I describe him as racist because that's the tone of his remarks. He could be a skinned head...belonging to KKK or just simply Trailer Park White Trash.
 
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Someone12: The answer to your question that I have apparently been "avoiding" can be found in my previous post. And the one before that as well. I clearly provided you with that answer not once, not twice, but three times now. I hope we won't have to go for a fourth time because this is just a colassal waste of time. Imbecile.

Oh my GOD somebody please restrain me before I commit a felony! YOU ARE MAKING HALF THE STUFF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT UP! When did I ever point my fingers at anybody? NEVER! Stop making things up to sound smart, for it does not make you sound smart at all. Quite the contrary, actually. "Trying to justify you irresponsibility by pointing to others"... what a bunch of deficient ****! Does anybody know what Someone12 is talking about? If so, please elaborate, as I have no clue what he/she is talking about. Nonsense, I tell ya!

Sorry, kind of lost it there. Someone12's consistent ignorance must have hit a nerve or something...

Native: Thank you for your kind words and friendly advice. As for that letter to the 14 year old Korean girl... I do believe it would be impossible of me to write. As I had no intention of taking HER place in the immigration line. I had no intention of anything. I was 5 years old at the time I came here. I wasn't capable of knowing much...

Macyuhoo: I, too, have read some of the posts that Someone12 has made on other threads... Although he/she doesn't actually say it, it is implied that he/she is a racist! I mean, he/she seems to have come to a conclusion that just because I am illegal, that me and my family are filthy, flea infested, etc. Or maybe it's just a personal thing. [Yeah right]

Still Learning: I don't know. Maybe there's something I do not know about the government. You guys speak of it as if it controls us! As if it is God, and anything done to go against the government will be the doom of us all. Why is the government so important? <-- That is not sarcasm either, that is an actual question. Forgive me for my ignorance.

Lya_tsilvquodi_nehi: Yeah, I know what I really should be doing is ignoring the posts from Someone12, but I can't help but feeling that not fighting back to defend myself will send off a message that I am weak, you know? Well, I certainly am not, and even if I was I certainly wouldn't want others to know. No, I will fight back for what I believe is right, with all due respect, of course. Thank you for the info.
 
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the op, hm, said it all...."big whoop about lying to the US government.." yet this ignorant offspring of visa cheats thinks it's OK to scam the very government she and her dirtbag family cheated in the first place!!! OK HM....I defy you to explain that piece of rational logic.
The terms douchebag, dirtball, scum, flea-infested, etc, are not racist terms, no matter what that moron macyuhoo thinks....if you believe otherwise, please point to the phylum chart to those categories.
As I said, you are just whining visa cheating illegal dirt*****....nothing more. What is right? (that that you want to defend?) What an interesting thought from someone who doesn't even recognize right from wrong. Lying and cheating a soveriegn nation to gain something undeserved is not right,,,if you doubt this, ask any of your teachers in the public school, we, the US taxpayers, are shelling out for on your behalf....ask any of them to justify your actions....only one who is an illegal him or herself would condone your actions.
What is right is that you and your irresponsible family should be deported tomorrow.....that is right. Oh yes, to that braindead macyuhoo.....irresponsibility is not a racist term, dip$hit.
 
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Hey white punk! The kid's only mistake was to have parents who were illegal. Being minor and dependent, he or she had no control to his life and future. Why blame the guy for it? Let's just help the guy and not throw insults!
 
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Hm,

A little help with your government question.

A country of 300 million people needs a way to stay "United". This is where our goverment comes in, it rules (or controls) by protecting our basic rights and freedoms. We have laws that are "Federal" and laws that are "State." Immigration laws are Federal.

The government is broken down into 3 major branches of government.

Judicial: Court Systems

The Supreme Court is the highest court in the land. If a person disagrees with a court decision in a state court they can appeal that decision to higher courts and possibly all the way to the supreme court. The Supreme Courts answer is final.

The Legislative Branch: Congress (House of Representatives and Senate).

They make laws, set federal budgets and determine where our tax money will be spent (they do a lot more but this is a short version)

Then we have the Executive Branch: The President.

The way our government works, no one Branch can dominate the others. It is called a system of checks and balances that keeps it running without one branch taking control.

Say Someone12 was the President, Hm, you were the legislative branch and macyuhoo was the court system.
You and Macyuhoo would keep Someone 12 in check. You could take the power out of his "wind" altho he is FREE
to speak.


Citizens VOTE for the people holding these offices in Washington, DC, hoping they go up there and represent the will of their people in the state that sent them.

This may be more than you wanted to know but the short answer is Yes, they do control us (but not in a tyranical or imperial sense). And, INS, ICE etc. are
federal agencies.

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Why do you feel it necessary to keep insulting my parents? I can't help it if you were raised by apes, you barbaric ignoramus. Stop taking out all your anger on me.

What harm did we really cause by scamming the government? We lied so we could live in America, and now we're living here like any other regular American citizen, except WE don't have any legal status here. That's the only difference. You act as if we've commited an atrocious act by coming here illegally! You exaggerate the problem to be thousands of times worse than it really is. Freakin' drama queen...

I am human. Just because I'm illegal does not make me a dolt, nor does it make me a bad person. Of course I realize the difference between right and wrong, you ninny. You have based ALL your opinions about me and my family upon ONE thing. Our illegal status. Your intelligence just never ceases to amaze me.

No, the names you have called me are not racial terms. However, the only reason you're calling me those names is because of my illegal status. And obviously, because of my illegal status, I am inferior to you. Anyone who feels that an illegal immigrant is inferior may just as easily think that a person of color is inferior as well. Yeah, I can draw my conclusions about you just as easily as you can draw your conclusions about me, no matter how inaccurate they may be.

What is right that I want to defend, you ask? That would be... my right to be here! Yes, I DO HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HERE. Regardless of HOW I got here. Like you said, America is a free country. Oooh I guess that one just backfired on you. Big Grin

And please, stop acting like you own this land. For you do not. It is not up to you whether I get to stay here or not. It is not up to you to tell me to get out of "YOUR" country. You cannot tell me to do what to do. Well, I suppose you could if you want and waste your time. It's not like I'll listen to you though. You telling me to "Go home" is just as effective as me telling you to stick your head up your a$$. THIS IS MY HOME. I've lived here for 8 years, ever since I was 5. My dreams are in America, my dreams will remain in America, and so will I. And nothing you say will change that, nor COULD it. Kthnx. Big Grin
 
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Native: Thanks. I think I understand the government a little better now.

Well, Someone12 will have a blast once he/she reads this, but I'm a rebel. And I won't let the government control me.
 
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Originally posted by Hm.:
What harm did we really cause by scamming the government? We lied so we could live in America, and now we're living here like any other regular American citizen, except WE don't have any legal status here. That's the only difference. You act as if we've commited an atrocious act by coming here illegally! You exaggerate the problem to be thousands of times worse than it really is. Freakin' drama queen...


You don't seem to understand. There are over 12 million of you in this country! You are far too young to understand how this impacts the US Citizen, the Legal Resident, that tax payer !!!
You won't be living here like a regular American like you state, because soon you will want to get a part time job, a driver's license, etc. How are you going to do this? If you are going to use illegal documents, you will risk getting caught and you and your whole family will get deported! I would not be able to sleep at night if I was in your situation. There is no way for you to get legal status or become a citizen as long as you stay in this country. Yes, America is a free country, but you must realize that you are not free here because you are illegal. You have so many obsticles because of your situation. I am sure your school doesn't know you're here illegaly, do you consider this to be free? I don't. What if you get in trouble with the law? You wouldn't have the same rights, you would just get deported. Anyway, you are 14 years old, but I noticed you're acting like a smarta$$. You are angry because of your situation and this is not good. You don't have anyone to blame for this but your parents. You should be talking to them about this mess because they put you in it, now let them solve it for you.
 
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I am sure your school doesn't know you're here illegaly, do you consider this to be free?

*****

User 99 -they know she's here:

. In 1982, the court ruled in a Texas case, Plyler Vs. Doe, that all children have a constitutional right to a public education, regardless of their immigration status.

*****
 
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I am not angry because of my situation. I am angry because Someone12 continues to talk a whole bunch of sh*t about me and my family when he/she doesn't even know anything about us. I don't think you'd exactly be jumping for joy if someone called your parents lowlife scums either!

I've been here for 8 years. You honestly think I haven't talked to my parents about this yet? They just dwell on the hopes that someday the laws will change around for illegal aliens, and that someday, we'll magically become legal citizens. Well, that's my dad, anyways. And my mom has basically just given up. Yeah, that sure solves my problem. Thanks for that "tip".

How the hell should I know how I'm supposed to live the rest of my life? I'm 14 for God sakes! That's why I came here asking for advice. (I appreciate those of you who were kind enough to provide it.)

Well, I apologize on the behalf of those 12 million illegal immigrants that are causing the US citizens & tax payers trouble. But here's what I think... these 12 million illegal immigrants have helped this country out in more ways than you could ever imagine. 12 f*cking million people! Sure we may have bad impacts on this country, but we also have GOOD impacts. Good, helpful, impacts. You guys honestly wouldn't last a day without illegal immigrants. Anyone who denys that is in denial...

I do sincerely apologize to everyone if I sound like a smarta$$. I'm just like that when I get into defense mode. I'm sure as hell not gonna sit down and take some of the sh*t that people throw at me.
 
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you ignorant hole-in-the-hedge (look that one up in the English dictionary)....you have NO right to be in America...none....but, since your IQ is no larger than your bra size, you don't understand that simple fact.You, like all visa cheating slime, somehow believe you are entitled to live in the United States of America, without following any of our laws. Well, point to that so-called 'right' you and your $hit-eating family possess....please....show us all..
your mother and father have a combined IQ of 58, and a responsibility index of -100 - and you, the genetic by-product of a midnight swim in a public swmimming pool, are even more ignorant than they are.
MY country would not roll over and die if 12M $hitbags were deported tomorrow; on the contrary, the American children in our overcrowded schools (filled with illegals like you) would breath cleaner air the moment you all leave...taking TB and leprosy back to your own country. Our economy does not need $2 an $hitcan cleaners like your parents; we never have depended on lowlifes like you and never will. American citizens are fighting a war in Iraq while you whining visa cheats complain about how unfair our laws are and thus raationalize your irresponsibility when you violate the very laws of the country you think should reward you for doing so! What complete morons you are. You love America? Go pick up a rifle and join the Army. But you lack the courage to do so, even if you were 18. I pray for the day when American patriots like me, like the MInutemen, get the green light to round up everyone of you pondscum visa cheats and drive your sorry a$$e$ to the nearest airport and wave goodbye to you as you depart MY country for the last time.
 
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Look who's talking? You think mainstream Americans are good at spelling? I'm not good too; but my fiance's nephew who was born in her country and is now here spells better than his teacher in school. Your writing and grammar are also craps, Someone12.

Hm, don't feel guilty. I don't think your parents lied. Many were forced to overstay due to economic reasons. They did it because of you...so that you would have a better future. Compare these to kids here who know nothing but to s c r e w around, take drugs and not go to school. They are the problems of the society, not children of illegal immigrants like you.
 
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Look into a category called Special Immigrant Juvenile Petition - It might suit your situation, but you would have to analyze the risks of applying, because it could affect your parents.
 
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Hm., I think I may be able to help. I would like to know more about your case background in more detail. If you wish, you could write me at my private e-mail: bestgoji2004@yahoo.com. That way, we could discuss your situation better.
 
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