Of course, you can't drive without a license but wouldn't you if it was an emergency? That's the human side that even criminal law considers but seems to be absent in immigration law. Waivers and carve-outs are simply not enough or just inadequate to cover the very real consequences of the implementation of a statute that is designed to serve a "hypothetical" instead of a factual situation.

The system that's in place right now fails to consider human reality as well as other, less critical, factors such as economic hardships and operational procedures.

If the system was proper and it was only a matter of people disregarding the law, the levels of illegal immigration wouldn't be nearly as high as they are today. This is not my conclusion, the argument has been raised several times during the immigration debate.

I have never believed in cycles of amnesty, but that's what's going to keep on happening if the law doesn't change to accommodate REALITY and not what certain groups believe reality to be.

there should be no way to relieve anyone of their responsibilities and their need to follow, obey and adhere to our laws....it does not take a Mensa member to figure out that (a) sneaking across our borders is against the law (b) staying past the time allotted on a visa is against the law (c) working without permission of the US government is against the law (d) marrying some idiot for money or a green card is against the law.....these are not complex laws, even though ethically challenged immigration attorneys try to convince people otherwise (to rack up thousands of unearned dollars in billable hours)...but everyone wants to blame the laws....bull$hit....

Moderators, he's long overdue - his behavior is repulsive and you should not continue to allow him to participate in these delicate and sensitive discussions - ban him please.

To the original poster, if you are still checking this thread...

I am a bit confused by how you say you and your parents entered, but if you came by plane, you would have been inspected upon entry. Did they give you an I-94 of any sort? Without a visa, I would think they would have admitted you on Visa Waiver, although South Korea is not currently on the Visa Waiver list.

An earlier poster was correct, while under 17 you are not accruing unlawful presence...

If you entered on Visa Waiver, if you were inspected at all, then you would still be able to file for adjustment of status if you marry a U.S. citizen. I'm aware you're still a kid, and I'm not advocating entering into a sham marriage, but that IS something to keep in mind as a possible avenue of legalizing your status down the road. Your parents, however, are, of course, in a much more difficult spot. Good luck to you.

Hm, are you european?

Someone12: may I ask you a question? I read your intellectual responses, and it came to my mind to ask you WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU ON THIS BOARD????????? You can't give you any advices, just degrade people!!! I'm a USC, but I'm not judging. You know why? Becuase I have no right to judge someone of whom I don't know why they became illegals, or why they climbed over the boarder fence and came here illegally. So, please, if you're really bored and feel like degrading someone, then look into yourself and see how big **** you can be by treating others as you are. And please for God's sake, leave this site!!! You're not forced to stay here! And honestly; NO ONE would miss you here!!!

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Originally posted by Houston:
Of course, you can't drive without a license but wouldn't you if it was an emergency? That's the human side that even criminal law considers but seems to be absent in immigration law. Waivers and carve-outs are simply not enough or just inadequate to cover the very real consequences of the implementation of a statute that is designed to serve a "hypothetical" instead of a factual situation.

The system that's in place right now fails to consider human reality as well as other, less critical, factors such as economic hardships and operational procedures.

If the system was proper and it was only a matter of people disregarding the law, the levels of illegal immigration wouldn't be nearly as high as they are today. This is not my conclusion, the argument has been raised several times during the immigration debate.

I have never believed in cycles of amnesty, but that's what's going to keep on happening if the law doesn't change to accommodate REALITY and not what certain groups believe reality to be.

How should it change? I can not think of any country that has an open border policy.

As far as I can see the US differs from most in giving preference to Family Immigration vs Work Immigration.

Odd to me, but not that relevant to current discussion.

How to change it? I've stated many times my view on what's wrong with the law and how to fix it.

The current trend has resulted in circuit splits, lack of uniformity, severe problems of enforceability, removals for non-criminal conduct, lack of consideration for family members and equity, and most of all, extreme confusion that triggers fear of every single figure of authority. Aliens are considered suspects, prone to crime, even in the absence of any suspicious activity.

Ironically, the "admissibility" provisions are designed to keep the "undesirable" from remaining in the U.S. but have grown so strict and tight that many people holding office would be inadmissible. These provisions are, many times, far more demanding than the requirements in place to screen prospective public officials and servants.

Even offenses that are not "worthy of judicial prosecution" carry harsh and severe immigration consequences.

The issues are to numerous and far too complex to be described here. I do not favor a policy of open borders and chaotic immigration, but a comprehensive policy where all elements are considered, weighted and evaluated before a decision is made. A law that's flexible enough to accommodate different situations, a law that protects family and the interests of U.S. citizen relatives, a law that's simple enough for officers to enforce consistently and for aliens to follow with confidence.

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The issues are to numerous and far too complex to be described here. I do not favor a policy of open borders and chaotic immigration, but a comprehensive policy where all elements are considered, weighted and evaluated before a decision is made. A law that's flexible enough to accommodate different situations, a law that protects family and the interests of U.S. citizen relatives, a law that's simple enough for officers to enforce consistently and for aliens to follow with confidence.

but i don't think REAL ID and BORDER FENCE constitute such a systematic and square approach, do you? no, i'm not surprised that affected state officials repulse the idea.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Someone12:
great....another dirtbag from a family of visa cheats...and this douchebag wants a reward, just like all the other dirtbags that lack the responsibility to obey our laws, along with their equally useless parents....stop screwing up our gene pool. Go Home. Now.

Someone12 - NEO N***I PIG!!

Complaining about us calling you a racist - you f.u.c.k.i.n.g. gave yourself away big time! If anyone is ever able to screw up America's Gene Pool, its shrinkheads like you!

hey Kollerkraut.....farfegnuegenn

Fahrvergnügen - indeed driving around in my friend's Chevy Tahoe down in Florida.

.....or did you actually think you say something nasty? If so, you gonna have to do much better.

Und was hat all das mit Fahrvergnügen zu tun?

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Originally posted by Hm.: I'm expecting plenty of hateful comments from the majority of you, but there's gotta be at least one person who's willing to offer me some sort of advice

Well

a) It's not true that the MAJORITY will flame you.

and

b) It's sad that the resident pinheads make you feel this way.

I hope you get some good information and your situation has a happy ending.

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Originally posted by Someone12: having lived abroad in 6 different countries and having visited more than 20

You're a LIAR.

Unless this was with the military - and you just stayed on the bases and drank cases of beer on those rare occasions that you had a day off - you're just a liar.

Do you know how I can tell?

Your retarded mentality.

You have the closed-minded, shallow mentality of a moron that thinks our county can do no wrong, has never stepped foot out of the US, and could care less about citizens of countries other than your own.

A person that has stepped out of our country to see other cultures generally is way "deeper", accepting and has a FAR MORE open mind than you do.

We see right through you.

Fool.

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Originally posted by timmy_d11:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Someone12: having lived abroad in 6 different countries and having visited more than 20

He's been reading the travel section of his Latham NY newspaper.

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Originally posted by Layton2000:
Und was hat all das mit Fahrvergnügen zu tun?

Da musst Du Someone12 fragen, denn der hat damit angefangen.

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Originally posted by explora:

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Originally posted by timmy_d11:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Someone12: having lived abroad in 6 different countries and having visited more than 20

He's been reading the travel section of his Latham NY newspaper.

No - he might have been traveling to all those, but only with the finger on the map!!!

lived in 6 different countries.???... a trip to butlins or center parcs dont count........... and if u have lived in these countries i wonder which ones ???? because from previous issues i never thought geography was one of ur strong points... i am supprised u made it back......!!! and ur day trips to canada dont count either... nor does ur trip to the KKK meetings... thats states not countries...... can u speak a foreign language???? I am just trying to fathom out if there is a bit of human in u......