"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Do you know how much money this will cost us? -----------------------
Do you know how much money is currently being dished out on local, state and federal social services for illegal aliens?
An illegal alien's home country should get a bill for each illegal alien that is deported. Their home country can recoup the money from that person's wages. - That being said, if some other country deports an American for being an illegal alien, the US should get a bill, and again, the US can recoup this money from that person's wages.
Do you know how much money is currently being dished out on local, state and federal social services for illegal aliens?
you mean the cost of human rights...
An illegal alien's home country should get a bill for each illegal alien that is deported. Their home country can recoup the money from that person's wages. - That being said, if some other country deports an American for being an illegal alien, the US should get a bill, and again, the US can recoup this money from that person's wages.
so who's passing this bill? Senate , Congress , you? well...let me know
you mean the cost of human rights... ------------------------------ There is no such thing as human rights, except in theory and in vision. Even within conventions, it is not global, which is unfortunate. It only applies to the countries who agree to the laws.
Note: Although illegal aliens are entitled to go to public school at the tax payer's expense, this is only true until the parents are caught and deported, thus removing all that are caught. Illegal alien parents may think because they gave birth to an American, who may be underage when caught, entitles them all to remain in the US. They come to find out this is not true and they have the option to all be deported, or leave their underage American child in the US either with other family members or as a ward of the state. They usually blame the US for trying to "break up their family" , not understanding they themselves put themselves in this situation. You would think decent parents would automatically take their underage American children with them when they (the parents) are deported, unfortunately, some like Arellano (Chicago) leave their child behind. Un real !
so who's passing this bill? Senate , Congress , you? well...let me know ------------------------ Read the post.....again....there is no bill, my post has the word "should" ....learn to read, stay in school...don't be a speed_025 !
That petition is a waste of time. Reform is now very far way. They just finished voting on a reform and it failed.
More importantly, even if there was a reform bill that passed. Once the applicant is behind the closed doors of the USCIS, any law, bill, or reform is superfluous.
The USCIS approves only who they want.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
An illegal alien's home country should get a bill for each illegal alien that is deported. Their home country can recoup the money from that person's wages
How are you gonna work out what that illegal immigrant has cost the USA and imagine the extra cost in bureaucracy needed to work it out in the first place !
We voted Democrat. They'll be no need to sneak in anymore
There is no such thing as human rights, except in theory and in vision. Even within conventions, it is not global, which is unfortunate. It only applies to the countries who agree to the laws.
Well jeff I won't argue with your theory. That is your right!!
I consider this people human just like us. and I won't call them names. That's just me! If the US goverment has compassion with them why can't I. Being a US citizen doesn't make me different from them..we are all children of god!
Thank you all so much for signing and supporting our efforts. It means the world to me. Especially as my late husband and I set it up to help others. Little did we know then he was terminal and only had weeks to live. He was a LPR and the petitioner for my son's immigration case. The day my husband passed my son's immigration case died with him.
There is also the need for compassion for a USC 13 year old child. His mother is widowed and only able to reside in the USA on an E visa until such times as the USC child is 21 years of age and able to sponsor his mother
To cut a very long stroy short the child is very depressed. He wrote a letter to Mr Bush about his mom's business struggling to support them and scared she would be deported.
The USC child does not wish to live abroad, and would face immigration issues if he did. The upshot of all this is he cut his arms carving the word help, into his forearm. He was sectioned under The Baker Act, so very sad
There for the grace of god, who knows when any of us will need some help,
Please keep up the good work and ask as many friends as possible to sign the petition and join the site
We are hoping to have a book written and raise funds to employ a lobbyist, so if your a writer or publisher please contact me.
I have already spoken to ILW and whist they support our efforts , sadly they only produce books for professionals not for immigrants from an immigrants point of view
Any and all help appreciated, thanks again, so much
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If you are willing and able to support by joining the forum the site is www.expatsvoice.org I have the support of Sam at ILW
Many children still age out despite the CSPA, the stepchildren of USC as do others who still await visa numbers, the retention of prority dates is still an issue too.
Originally posted by unique: That petition is a waste of time. Reform is now very far way. They just finished voting on a reform and it failed.
More importantly, even if there was a reform bill that passed. Once the applicant is behind the closed doors of the USCIS, any law, bill, or reform is superfluous.
The USCIS approves only who they want.
You may be right for now, but as the site grows so will our voice and I for one am conviced change will happen once the elections are over. I for one cannot sit by and do nothing, that is simply not an option.
The bigger the site the louder the voice. The site is less than 2 years old and have many attorneys as members as well as the British Consulate.
We are hope to invite all consulates to link to us as our site is for any expat from any country currently residing in the USA or who would like to.
Conprehensive immigration reforms should mean just that, comprehesive and have compassion whislt securing the boarders and dealing with the illegal situation once and for all.
Laws can be changed, and they are. It takes dedication, time, luck and money. Up till recently dependant E2 spouses could not work, well the law was changed and now they can.
Please try to think that the glass is half full instead of half empty.
Originally posted by Someone12: I will not support any "reform" until the 12M illegal douchebags currently infecting my country are deported....then we'll talk about "reform."
I am saddend by your post as it seems to lack compassion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion I respect that but are your saying there is no need to help anyone in need especially if they have played by the rules?
There is so much talk of reform, Neither you nor I can stop that and will not go away but talk of reforms seems to only refer to the illegal situation.
Originally posted by susie: The bigger the site the louder the voice. The site is less than 2 years old and have many attorneys as members as well as the British Consulate.
Please try to think that the glass is half full instead of half empty.
No offense, but you don't seem to understand.
The majority of the American people are against immigration. It doesn't matter how many people sign that petition it's a total zero. Even if you got 30,000,000 signatures, there will be 300,000,000 Americans who were born here apposing you. Remember the more immigrants demand, the more opposition they will get from USC's.
It's smarter to be realistic than optimistic.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
I have never said I am against LEGAL immigration (legal from the beginning, no phony marriages, no phony aslyum claims)...but I am against rewarding any and every illegal alien currently occupyin space in America... and as to 'human rights'...well, why is it that only the US of A is supposed to have the open door policy? Try going to work in Europe just to support your family....you'll get the boot...why is it that hard working American citizens should pay the tab for illegal alien douchebags and their equally illegal offspring? Send 'em to Europe...or Greenland (lots of space there)if you come to America, you must obey our laws, not just the ones you agree with or else get lost.
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