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PLEASE HELP US WE NEED HELP SO MUCH WE NEED FORGIVE FOR JUST ONE TIME PLEASE CHANGE THIS INS RULES WE NEED OUR FAMILY SPOUSES AND OUR CHILDREN. Frown
 
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Jesus forgives you but not BCIS.
 
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which leads to an interesting point.....why is it that no one seems to be teleported to a specific location or reunited in spite of lawbreaking if Jesus really forgives....
seems like BCIS is the only entity that can grant status....
 
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and if memory serves me, Matt's problem is either he or his spouse lied about their US citizenship in some way - and for that, there is NO waiver...period.
 
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thanks someone12 I understand what you said Im sorry for make mistake and I hope from god you never make mistake never be sperated from your family .
 
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some countries who is hungrey and stolen something when police get him and goverment give ponishment him which hand he stolen cut that hand? its correct honey? your country try to change that countries and want give peace and humanism right? have nice day lovely friend
 
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Well, a solution is to move the USC spouse and children to the other country where the other spouse lives. If family unity is number one priority in your life, then I don't see why this is not considered?
 
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well Matt, you broke the law and saying "sorry" does not erase what you did. We (the US) have laws and penalties and you made a serious mistake some time ago....and besides, you (along with other folks who have tried to scam their way into the US) forget something.....had you been successful with your lies about your citizenship, would you have called INS back the next day to "apologize" for having scammed your way into America? Would you have gone back to the airport or border and apologized and gone back to your own country to apply for a visa? The answer is, of course, NO. You would have taken advantage of your misrepresention to stay in the US. So trying to make anyone feel guilty about what you did won't work. You tried to cheat our system and failed.
 
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someone12 I agree with you but I just say sorry and I understand we should respect to rules but I hade all ready family in there and I just say ponishment is heavy we can pay us dolar for ponishment and good for american economy also we can see our family or they be happy we are not criminal we just made mistake because we havent know that and why we want live in usa bro do you know over there better life no body bother nobody and we are with our family and work like ant thats all brother we are not profession like you you are great people we are simple bro you will make law later we cannot do we are simple people but you guys has give to us chance for live in the world if you erase all simple people in that world you can not be first class people someone12
 
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If BCIS or the Bush administration will forgive the estimated 8-10 million illegals they might forgive the spouses of USC,don't you think Melanie?
Not to forget that The Bush plan it is not a text bill,it is still questionable whether it will pass at all.And if it does it might have something for USC spouses too.
Don't give up Matt!!!!
 
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sory for my write english its not my real language I just learnd in 3 years with no school sory about it can you forgive me sir please ?
 
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Lying about being a USC is like a death sentence in the eye of BCIS. Maybe in the future they might reconsiders it, but for now I can't see any way out.

The strenght of law is on its implementation, anything less than that it'll just become a written text in a book somewhere, being completely useless. This is somewhat the cause of the immigration problem in the US right now. There're laws, but minimal enforcement and penalty/punishment for those who breaks them.
 
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Matt - please re-read the latter portion of my previous posting - the real issue is that had you been successful with your lies, you would not have apologized or told anyone about it....you would have just stayed in the US illegally.....and this particular law was written strongly for a purpose - to dissuade people from making a false claim to US citizenship - and to NEVER forgive this transgression. To merely accept some half-a$$ed apology would cheapen our already abused legal system.
 
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DEAR SOMEONE12 I UNDERSTAND TO YOU BUT BRO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TO ME I HAVENT LIE AND I DIDNT HURT NO ONE I HAVENT SELL DRUGS NO CRIME I SWEAR I JUST SPENT MY DAY WITH MY WIFE LISTEN BRO PEOAPLE MAKE LAW OK IF YOU LIKE THAT LAW I DONT TELL YOU ANYTHING BUT LOOK AT THE LAW 212(A)(6)(c)(İ) HAS IMMIGRANT WAIVER IF YOU HAVE US SPOUSE BUT 212(A)(6)(c)(II) THERE IS NO IMMIGRANT WAIVER AND THEY CHANGE AFTER 1996 AND JUST ONE(I) PROBLEM IS (I) IS MISREPRESENTATİON AND HAVE WAIVER BUT (II) FALSE CLAIM CITIZENSHIP AND BRO I HAVENT FAKE ANYTHING OK I JUST SHOWED THEM MY REAL DRIVER ID OK AND I HAD MY GIRLFRIEND AND I TOLD THEM WE WILL MARRIED PLEASE BUT NO BODY PAY ATTNETION I HAVENT ANY CRIME HONEY OK JUST WENT STUPIT CANADA TRIP AND AFTER COME BACK MY WIFE SHOWED HER ID AND BEHIND HER I SHOWED MY ID AND TRY TO BE COME IN THERE AFTER WE WANT MARRIED IM MOST WANTED YOU THINK SO ANYWAY HONEY IF YOU LIKE THAT RULES MAKE SPERATED TO FAMILY ITS OK I JUST SAY FORGIVE OK I CANT CHANGE THAT RULES OK BUT IF THEY GIVE BENEFIT FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS WORK IN USA THEY ARE GUILTY ALSO THEY ARE ILLEGAL SAME LIKE ME I JUST SAY THEY CAN MAKE LITTLE BIT BIGGER NEW IMMIGRATION RULES AND FORGIVE SOME FAMILY MEMBER OK NOTING SAY DEAR SOMEONE12 GOD BLESS YOU DEAR,BE WITH YOUR FAMILY,IM SERIOUS I LIKE YOU I NEVER ANGRY TO YOU YOU JUST TRY TO DO SOMETHINK I HOPE YOU WILL BE GOOD LAWYER OR CONGRESSMEN AND HELP PEOPLE OR YOUR COUNTRY.
 
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how tiresome Matt....blame everyone else but yourself....INS or BCIS inspectors do not consider that possession of a US driver's license is evidence or claim of US citizenship....so that story does not fly....more than likely you told them you were a USC or possibly presented a fake/stolen US passport or something besides a driver's license at the border....
 
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hiii sweetheart someone12 how are you ?how was your last night?did you sleep good?I hope you feel ok today ?are you still hate stupit immigrants?
 
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Yes, I slept really well, thank you. And no, I do not hate immigrants; I do not have respect for those who break our laws, then whine incessantly about having to endure or pay a penalty while trying to blame others or our laws for their own lack of responsibility. And again, I noticed that you still failed to address my suggestion that had your false claim to US citizenship succeeded, you would not have alerted our authorities but rather would have used that opportunity to live and work in the US without permission and without following the rules. Nighty-night
 
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Matt: no mater how sympathetic you may want to sound, there is no remedy for your problem. Not in the foreseeable future...

I'll just give you some background information; your false claim to U.S. citizenship is considered an aggravated felony and makes you permanently inadmissiable unless there are some law changes or a general amnesty which I highly doubt. It all boils down to this: it may not seem like a big deal to you or many other cultures, but the American legal system puts a lot of emphazises on being truthfull. Law enforcement officers and people in the legal system know that once a liar doesn't mean you just lied once, rather it means that you're probably a notorious liar and just caught this one time. If you agrue that it's not a violent crime, I'd like you to consider following scenario: if someone lies under oath in a court of law about witnessing something that did not happen and causes the incarceration or even a death penalty for another, is that "violent"? You probably would say, no, unless you were the one person punished capitally because of someone else's lie.

I personally do not feel that a permanent barr should apply rigoreously on all crimes and it should be evaluated case by case. But there are other more sympathetic cases than yours such as aliens that have been living here from a very young age and had to be deported with permanent barrs for far more simple things than yours, and they managed to start a new life in their native countries and applied their knowledge and learned lessons into something constructive. I hope once you understand the limitations of our laws, actions and consequences, you will find a good way to deal with your situation, too. Good luck!
 
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well-said, Pandora, well-said... - and I mean it.
 
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you guys have everything but need love you guys forget about everythink and looking for love real love humanist love not I mean *** or get expencive car make people happy love you guys understand or not Im not sure but thinking too much brothers ok forget about rules people kill that world honey seach the other counries and where you live you canb find what I mean this world our honey our we have to respect and share each other with love not we are not civilization yet honey if we think we make peace with rules and guns we are dangerus for that world .I hope you get what I mean and understand me thinking other people all the time brother not just around you and your self thinking 7 billion people,they try to be live in that world honey THINK BIG PLEASE
 
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