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Hi

I am planning to apply my Green card. However I am a bit confused which category will I fall to ? EB2 or EB3 ?

As per my job requirement details, it is as below:

i ) Bachelor degree in technology related field.

In the detailed experience seeked, it says as below:

i) Five years of experience with installing, maintaining servers.
ii) Three years of practical experience in routing and network security.

I have more than 5 years of working experience (which they seeked) before I started this job.

Under which category will it fall under, EB2 or EB3 ?

Thank you
 
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EB3, I believe. EB2 is for people with advanced degrees and exceptional abilities in science, art or business.


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May I know why it falls under EB3 ?
 
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From:

http://www.messersmithlaw.com/green-card/eb3.html
EB3 Employment Based Green Card
EB3 Green Card Details

The EB3 employment based green card is for professionals who hold a US baccalaureate degree or foreign equivalent degree that is normally required for the profession. Education and experience may not be substituted for the degree.

The EB3 employment based green card is also for skilled workers and other workers who are not seasonal or temporary and require at least two years of experience or training as well as other workers are those who are capable of performing unskilled labor, not of a temporary or seasonal nature, for which qualified workers are not available in the US.

In order to obtain permanent residency through the EB3 category, the applicant must have an employer willing to sponsor him or her through labor certification or PERM. The applicant does not have to be employed when labor certification/PERM is filed. A job offer is sufficient. Labor certification/PERM is the process whereby, the US government determines whether qualified US workers can fill the open position. Once the labor certification is approved, the employer may sponsor the applicant for permanent residency.

The EB3 process is as follows:

The employer performs the labor certification or PERM process;
The employer sponsors the employee for a green card; and then
The employee adjust his or her status to permanent resident.
For whom is an EB3 Green Card appropriate?
Professional, skilled and other workers who have a job offer from a US company and their immediate family members.

What are the requirements for obtaining an EB3 Green Card?
Professionals: defined as a member of the professions who holds a baccalaureate degree. Members of the professions include, but are not limited to architects, engineers, lawyers, physicians, surgeons, and teachers in elementary or secondary schools, colleges, academies, or seminaries. It also includes any occupation for which a US baccalaureate degree (or foreign equivalent) is the minimum requirement for entry into the occupation.

Skilled workers: defined as a person, who at the time of petitioning, is capable of performing skilled labor, requiring at least 2 years training or experience, not of a temporary or seasonal nature, and for which there are no qualified workers available in the United States. Relevant post-secondary education may be considered as training for the purposes of this provision.

Other Workers: defined as a person who is to perform unskilled labor, requiring less than two years training, not of a temporary or seasonal nature, for which qualified workers are not available in the United States.


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Yes, the above information is 100% accurate. I have worked on Immigration forms and have done many labor certifications with a 100% approval rate under an excellent immigration attorney. You will qualify under EB3 unless you get a Master's Degree.

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I have a question....with 10,000,000 Americans unemployed and no doubt many in the IT field, why the eff should we hire some jagoff from ***phhuque for 60 cents on the dollar???? Companies are supposed to make a good faith search for qualified Americans before hiring aliens.......keep jobs in America, for Americans!
 
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I have a question....with 10,000,000 Americans unemployed and no doubt many in the IT field, why the eff should we hire some jagoff from ***phhuque for 60 cents on the dollar???? Companies are supposed to make a good faith search for qualified Americans before hiring aliens.......keep jobs in America, for Americans!


Let me pose a question. Of the ten million Americans unemployed, how many are trying to get jobs? Scale down that figure by half, S12. We have lazy Americans in this country that want to live off the government. They don't want a job. They'd rather sit on their fat lazy a.sses and collect unemployment. Believe me. I've witnessed many who have no incentive to work. It's pretty sad, but we need people to fill the jobs. How are we supposed to fill the gap? Take a good look around you for once. And get a clue. We're not living in a fantasy world anymore. The youth of America are the laziest bunch you will find. Entitlement is what they feel and they aren't going to fill the jobs that are necessary to keep our country on top. What's the answer?


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One thing you may want to consider is also the time line taking in getting a PR in EB2 vs EB3. EB3 takes longer and especially for some back logged countries to the extent of 10 or more years.

Based on the job description given by you, this will fall under EB3 category only.

Thanks
 
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Ole ProudUSC stands ready to sell out her American citizen brethen in favor of any dooshbag from another country...kind of like RG [who often posts his view of why we should legalize half the planet), owner of some 'garment factory'[which we all know by another name] whose spouse is an immigration attorney....what a combination! Proud tries to tell us how lazy Americans are, how illegals are sooooo hard working and soooo good at their jobs compared to Americans...except, of course, Proud no doubt believes she is a much harder worker, as do immigration attorneys and sweat shop owners.....what an odd coincidence....so few 'hard workers' and so many lazy ones...newsflash...EB3s are supposed to fill SHORTAGES, in areas where are there are NO American workers to do the job...which, in today's economy is distinctly unlikely.
So let's give Proud a round of applause for her willingness to sell out her fellow citizens in favor of cheap labor, and here's to immigration attorneys who do the same....what?? no one is clapping?????
 
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Originally posted by Someone12:
I have a question....with 10,000,000 Americans unemployed and no doubt many in the IT field, why the eff should we hire some jagoff from ***phhuque for 60 cents on the dollar???? Companies are supposed to make a good faith search for qualified Americans before hiring aliens.......keep jobs in America, for Americans!


Let me pose a question. Of the ten million Americans unemployed, how many are trying to get jobs? Scale down that figure by half, S12. We have lazy Americans in this country that want to live off the government. They don't want a job. They'd rather sit on their fat lazy a.sses and collect unemployment. Believe me. I've witnessed many who have no incentive to work. It's pretty sad, but we need people to fill the jobs. How are we supposed to fill the gap? Take a good look around you for once. And get a clue. We're not living in a fantasy world anymore. The youth of America are the laziest bunch you will find. Entitlement is what they feel and they aren't going to fill the jobs that are necessary to keep our country on top. What's the answer?



S12 is 300% spot on. There are no shortages in this area because of the economy right now.
Actually , never was, it is cheap labor.


@Proud ... wow.. So sad that you have fallen for the illusion that government wants you to believe to be able to keep justifying bringing in cheap labor.

BTW unemployment is not living off the government, these people who are unfortuante to have lost their jobs, have contribed along with thier employers into the unemployment insurance fund that pays them. This country has become a service industry job oriented country, You should not expect these people to take aservice industry jobs just to come off of UE.

To also add 50k haitians TPS plus all the illegal ones living here already to get TPS will not help the americans who were looking for service industry jobs either. It propably was not the right thing to do at this particular time. This country will continue to fall down down down.
 
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@Proud ... wow.. So sad that you have fallen for the illusion that government wants you to believe to be able to keep justifying bringing in cheap labor.


I didn't fall for any illusion, 4Now. I've witnessed it first hand. I know of people who voluntarily left their employment and are collecting unemployment because they don't want to work. For those people who lost their jobs due to no circumstances of their own - yes, they should be given the opportunity to fill the vacancies first. But, there are many, many Americans who are not in the labor force of their own choice. So, that number should be separated from the truly 'unemployed' pool.

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We are discussing about Employement based immigration and the person who is trying to get a Permenant resident card is already in this country and working for a job. I know there are many specialized areas where it is very difficult to fill the position and not many companies are ready to bring someone on board and train them for weeks and months to get up to speed before deliver. I also witness due to the tight grip employeed by USCIS recently, many are relectuent to come to US resulting the job going oversees. As for as the companies are concerned, they just want the job to get done for their customers.

Thanks
 
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Proud: I admit that there are a lot of Amcits who prefer goofing off...but...there are a lot more who are hard working, well educated and want to do the right thing. What galls me is when I hear from "business" about how hard working illegals are, as if Americans are not hard working (or talented, etc)....we put men on the moon...has Mexico done that? Pakistan? Nigeria? Bu.mphuque?? No.
The EB3 program is supposed to revolve around documented shortages of certain skilled workers and in today's economy, it is ludicrous to believe that no qualified Americans are available for any job.
But greedy and sleazy immigration attorneys, along with their equally slimey clients, do end runs around the process...how? By advertising a job (for whom they have already chosen their illegal cousin or friend) in the Podunk Herald 200 miles from where the job actually is, and if by chance some American citizen responds to the ad, they are told that.."oops...that offer of $20 an hour...it's now $8...."so the American declines...and the attorneys fudge the paperwork to fool the Dept of Labor.
I say that EB3 allocations should be tied to our level of unemployment...when that level rises over 5%, no more EB3s...period. Of course, immigration attorneys would whine about how unfair this method is...but who cares what these paragons of greed are interested in? they only want money...nothing more..so Proud, think carefully before besmirching the entire unemployed American citizen population...please...
 
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Proud, think carefully before besmirching the entire unemployed American citizen population...please...


What can I say? I live in an area where we should be able to find good, capable employees. Nothing. We have work for people and can't find anyone to fill the jobs. I told my husband under no circumstances are we going to hire anyone without papers this time around, but we can't find anyone. What are you supposed to do? There are tons of Americans out of jobs, but they aren't desperate enough to work labor jobs. They'd rather stay on unemployment and do nothing. That doesn't say much for the spoiled American work force, does it? And the youth entering the work force are so much worse. Ugh.


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The EB3 program is supposed to revolve around documented shortages of certain skilled workers and in today's economy, it is ludicrous to believe that no qualified Americans are available for any job.
But greedy and sleazy immigration attorneys, along with their equally slimey clients, do end runs around the process...how? By advertising a job (for whom they have already chosen their illegal cousin or friend) in the Podunk Herald 200 miles from where the job actually is, and if by chance some American citizen responds to the ad, they are told that.."oops...that offer of $20 an hour...it's now $8...."so the American declines...and the attorneys fudge the paperwork to fool the Dept of Labor.
I say that EB3 allocations should be tied to our level of unemployment...when that level rises over 5%, no more EB3s...period. Of course, immigration attorneys would whine about how unfair this method is...but who cares what these paragons of greed are interested in? they only want money...nothing more..so Proud, think carefully before besmirching the entire unemployed American citizen population...please...


Unemployment vs. job vacancies isn't a zero-sum equation. Or rather, say, the 'x' number of unemployed would fill the 'x' number of available jobs. Hence, everything fits and everyone lives happily ever after on the next day forward! This is a low-IQ manner of thinking especially in the US business setting. Then again, who owns the jobs, business or labor?

Remember, business owners and immigration attorneys are mostly Amcitz. So are DHS, DOS, and DOL personnel that form part of all this. And who make the applicable laws on immigration? Legislators who are 100% Amcitz.

These are individuals who in the past were immigrants or sons and daughters of once immigrants too.

And in the long run, some of the brandnew alien beneficiaries who are hired and legalized via this scam.. er, scheme would in the future likewise become entrepreneurs, immigrations attorneys, DHS/DOS/DOL personnel, or legislators too.

Ahhh.. the cycle is vicious and dizzying!






"The letter of the law is a sword that killeth; its intent is a spirit that giveth life." (Justice Holmes on II Cor 3:6)
 
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