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quote: It isn't so much the idea of blaming DHS for a bad marriage. Its what happens in the process that irks people. Its one thing to go through a normal divorce. But to have your Gov help the enemy is over stepping normal bounds. If a USC marrys a USC neither are entitled to 10 yrs worth of support for 6 months of marriage. Neither are entitled to have a one sided judicial process where the other person is barred from presenting a defense. Neither can tarnish the other's reputation without due process. But for an immigrant they get these benefits heaped upon them. Is an immigrant spouse so much better than a USC that they should receive these extra rewards?
davdah .. US government never told anyone nor dictate to marry an immigrant ..which the way you sounded you're totaly discrimanating them.. Are you a native american?? or maybe just any other USC you're root are also immigrants? Ironing clothes for immigrants? Go to the laundry mat!!!go home to your mother! |
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quote: to the laundry mat!!!
If she won't iron your clothes why get married! You don't need to go to a laundry mat. There is a stream out in the back.
Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
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| Posts: 4969 | Location: San Antonio TX | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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quote: There is a stream out in the back.
whoaaa that all your wives davdah???? no wonder the government won't listen to you lol |
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quote: Make sure she has a smile on her face before she goes to sleep each night
Im a cheerful and *****y person combine lol thank you for the humor! lol where the **** is that placeee how come their afraid of the sun geezzz I never seen that in Chicago lol |
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quote: Hudson please don't be judgmental without knowing any facts. As I keep telling you again and again, if you were present in person, I can show you every piece of evidence. No two cases are same, especially when you have concrete proof that is completely undeniable with the exception of how the evidence was obtained. I don't need any counseling. What frustrates me is the valuable loss of my years. You have not been in the boat so you will not understand and I pray to God you don't get to see that day.
helpvictim, I am not being judgmental. I am only offering what I feel is your chances in this endeavor. If this was truly fraud, you will not be here on this board discussing this. What you ahve done is the following: used her past to justify your present actions, thoughts, beliefs, and judgments, misconstrued facts to fit your myopic poiint of view, and have hacked into computers as well as illegally obtained recording that can be altered, changed, or erased. Again, you and others will spend $$$$ and the only thing that will happen is be disimessed from the court. You have a better chance of filing a malpractice lawsuit on your wife's doctor, for all practical purposes. And what this really boils down is that you hate your wife for the simple audacity of leaving you. This post, along with others, really show how controlling you were in them arriage. A women is not going to take that. And although she is not innocent herself, the adage two wrongs don't make a right, comes to play here. Finally, I am going to give you a brief glimpse of my past. I have more reason to hate my father, my mother, my family, my ex-friends, and f few others for things that have happened in my past. Yet, I chose not to hate. I took the road less traveled by, as in Robert Frost poem. Not everybody will make the same choice as I have, but hoepfully more will do so than not.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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Sean, your wasting your time trying to convince Hudson of anything. In his(?) mind you are the man and 100% guilty of abuse, control, manipulation, rape, incest, robbery, malice, perjury, and what ever else he can think of. The immigrant women is always the victim. Always was and always will be. He works at a DV shelter and believes everything a would be abused women tells him. Even if you were beaten within an inch of your life by her it would come down to 'What did you do to provoke her'? Follow his advice and just give up. No use trying to defend yourself. It will be dismissed. Give in and turn over all your assets to her. She deserves it. After all you are the man and probably did something to make her upset. Therefor no defense is justified or acceptable. Read Robert Frost or other poetry to convince yourself you are no one to have dignity or self respect. Better yet, make it easy. Just jump off a bridge and she will get it all by default without having to spend so much in legal fees. (this is all sarcasm and not intended as advice)
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| Posts: 4969 | Location: San Antonio TX | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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Davdah.... I think it is Maytag that now does a washing machine that takes 14 pairs of jeans at once, you really need to take a look at it LOL!
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quote: Originally posted by Jake01:
Davdah.... I think it is Maytag that now does a washing machine that takes 14 pairs of jeans at once, you really need to take a look at it LOL!
Hi Jake, Yea, I remember those commercials (Maytag as well as LG)... And here we are complaining about our laundry when all those women at that picture haven't even seen a washing machine.
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
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| Posts: 1404 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 12-22-2007 | |
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For all of you whiners who complain about marriage fraud and try to blame the government – maybe you should be dating your own ugly kind instead of trying to marry women whom you have most likely chosen because of their looks and who are in most cases way out of your league as far as they appearance and brain go.
Only a hopeless loser would blame someone else, especially the government, for his own stupidity.
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quote: Sean, your wasting your time trying to convince Hudson of anything. In his(?) mind you are the man and 100% guilty of abuse, control, manipulation, rape, incest, robbery, malice, perjury, and what ever else he can think of. The immigrant women is always the victim. Always was and always will be. He works at a DV shelter and believes everything a would be abused women tells him. Even if you were beaten within an inch of your life by her it would come down to 'What did you do to provoke her'?
Is this another so called joke or is Davdah really this insipid? If Sean follows your advice about turning in the car on purpose, and not because of financial difficulty, he would be in contempt of court of the order. He will then have to explain to the judge and hope he as a good explanation that can be rationalized legally. But if it is shown that he did it on purpose, then it will help prove her case and he will find it more difficult to obtain anything of "his" back. He can ask that she now finance the car in her name only and not have his name on the title. This can be done in exchange for a calculation of alimony payments, etc. For Helpvictim, he needs to let go. This means he needs to stop being vindictive and seek common ground that the two parties can agree on. In both circumstances, it is called letting go. But hey, the $640k question around here is when your current wife will leave you 
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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We always hear about marriage fraud because, well, it’s fraud! However, I wonder if there are many marriages out there by consent, so to speak, when a certain person pays a US citizen to marry him or her to get the greencard. I am sure such cases don’t make the news, but they have to be out there…. It is a significantly less expensive way to GC then through the investor scheme. 30-40K should probably do the trick. What do you think?
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I personally know of some USC's who have been paid by marrying for fraud. One USC married this guy, who has now got his own business. They divorced about 2 years ago. He paid her a large sum of money and he paid her monthly (don't know how much). They never lived together. They had separate lives. He has now married someone from his native country and brought her over. He is paying his ex wife money so she doesn't say anything. His ex is happy as she keeps getting free money. Another USC a woman, she married a guy she met when he was on vacation in LA. She offered to marry him as long as he gave her money. (she is a real money seeker). They married and she moved State, and he now has set up a business in SF and lives a separate life. She gets paid here and there, she is happy with the arrangement. She is 25. What is worse is, that she blackmails him when she wants more money. She told me this herself, and I asked her why as this is so illegal and bad. She said well if he wants a better life in this country and needs me so he can stay, then he has to pay me. He didn't pay her for a few months so she threatened him that she was going to divorce him and tell USCIS that he used her for fraud. What I don't understand is that how do they get away with it that the fact that both of them are living in 2 different States. They have no shame, all they can see is easy money. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God Bless America - God Bless Immigrants - God Bless Poor Misguided Souls Too  Mr S.U. |
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Hi Sprint, I think the fraud will eventually catch up with the people you described. Something will happen - it always does - lol! They will end up telling the wrong people who will, in turn, contact the authorities. There is no reward for greed.
God Bless America and everyone else!
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quote: Originally posted by Sprint_girl07:
I personally know of some USC's who have been paid by marrying for fraud.
One USC married this guy, who has now got his own business. They divorced about 2 years ago. He paid her a large sum of money and he paid her monthly (don't know how much). They never lived together. They had separate lives.
He has now married someone from his native country and brought her over. He is paying his ex wife money so she doesn't say anything.
His ex is happy as she keeps getting free money.
Another USC a woman, she married a guy she met when he was on vacation in LA. She offered to marry him as long as he gave her money. (she is a real money seeker).
They married and she moved State, and he now has set up a business in SF and lives a separate life. She gets paid here and there, she is happy with the arrangement. She is 25.
What is worse is, that she blackmails him when she wants more money. She told me this herself, and I asked her why as this is so illegal and bad. She said well if he wants a better life in this country and needs me so he can stay, then he has to pay me. He didn't pay her for a few months so she threatened him that she was going to divorce him and tell USCIS that he used her for fraud.
What I don't understand is that how do they get away with it that the fact that both of them are living in 2 different States.
They have no shame, all they can see is easy money.
I feel sorry for those guys. It must be horrible to have your life depend on a greedy and unstable woman who can't honor a deal. Obviously, both men are successful businessmen who contribute to this country and probably even create jobs for Americans. It's a shame they have to resort to a sham marriage to be able to work and live in the US. Places like Canada and Australia have much better immigration systems in that respect. Most of what US gets are undereducated Mexicans who also have their niche, of course, but they are not the kind of folks who could ensure America's future leading role in the world's economy. |
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quote: Originally posted by ProudUSC:
Hi Sprint,
I think the fraud will eventually catch up with the people you described. Something will happen - it always does - lol! They will end up telling the wrong people who will, in turn, contact the authorities. There is no reward for greed.
ITA, for the USC who's so greedy as to be blackmailing his/her clients, his/her days are numbered. The authorities are bound to catch him/her soon. I was told a story of one such immigrant who paid to get a GC. She went in the marriage with the understanding that it was only for a GC. The USC fell in love with her and wanted to have a child with her. She's so repulsed with the idea (perhaps with the guy too) that she went back to her country and never went back to the USA.
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
--John Wesley
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| Posts: 1404 | Location: Georgia | Registered: 12-22-2007 | |
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quote: Hudson He can ask that she now finance the car in her name only and not have his name on the title. This can be done in exchange for a calculation of alimony payments, etc. For Helpvictim, he needs to let go. This means he needs to stop being vindictive and seek common ground that the two parties can agree on. In both circumstances, it is called letting go. But hey, the $640k question around here is when your current wife will leave you
Put up the money if you have it and I'll provide the answer. BTW, your skating on thin ice again. If you want me to leave your wife out of any debates then reciprocate. As far as cooperation goes, sure. But that only works if the other person wants to. I never got the impression his X was going to play fair. Why sould he leave himself vulnerable yet again?
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