Originally posted by SonofMichael: Divorce is common. How common is trying to blow up a house?
Ok, so what did the Fire Marshal's report say? The Police report? Or was it you had a defective furnace, gas pipe, anything?
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Don't worry about it; I got them back every way imaginable and some unimaginible!
I am just saying that whereas divorces are comon, attempted murder, blowing up, poisining, etc... is not that common. The lengths that some people go through to get a green card are amazing. Its not just faking to be in love, but can turn violent. Ironically, the victim often ends up being accused of violence ! The law makes no sense. If you married for love, then why wouldyou be allowed to stay in the US? Once a sponsored immigrant gets divorced, they should go back.
Impeach Obama ! ............................... SOM - THE VOICE OF REASON
Frankly, much of these recent postings don't warrant a response or my entangling myself in what I consider prattle or worse; twisting my situation or what I have said or meant or into something they are not.
I came to this forum for help and I guess I have gotten some help, since I have not hung myself and am not starting/ending my day weeping like a baby as I have for the past 10 months. Sure, I still cry but hearing myself whine has gotten old for even me.
What in fact is happening with me, is my heart is quieting and subsequently my mind clearing. My capacity for hurt and misery is my own, as it is for each of you. Whatever the case, I am going to respond because I in some ways started or at minimum perpetuated this topic of “Green Card Marriages†and if not dispute, at least clear the air where I stand..what I think and feel…not what you think or feel or what your opinion is, this is from me and about me…the rest of you can think and swim as you like.
I was never talking about national divorce statistics or abstract observations and experiences. Everything I have shared here is based on what has been happening to me and a huge percentage of the men I personally know who have married Russian/Byelorussia Women.
I must also note here that the ugly/less attractive of these women are still with their husbands, which is a subject unto itself that deals with what women will do and are capable of if they have options, and let’s face it, attractive women have more options than the not so attractive women do…it is again us Men’s fault because we are the enablers. Even if we could have a brand put on the foreheads these women that says “I am a USER and Betrayers, Look Out-Gold Digger†there would be still be plenty of men who would pick them up and carry them forward.. another deep subject.
There is much I am now seeing as my eyes clear of tears and heart numbs so my brain can regain control. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that my wife is a classic example of a Gold Digger, as are ALL of the women closely connected to her…they advise each other, support each other and conspire with each other in what they believe, want and do. I do not need a court or the confirmation of you here to know that my wife conspired with her girlfriends, her son and probably this attorney of hers as we moved through the green card process knowing full well what she was going to do after the conditions for a perm green card were removed. Nor do I need to be a genius to know she has betrayed me in every way she thought necessary to get what she wants, before and since she left me; I am hearing about her moving around and the men and from my perspective she has cheapened herself and the plan that she and the two other women with her are attempting is going to be fun for a while but is going to bite them in the *** inevitably, as one of the husbands is wealthy enough and vindictive enough to fight back, not limited to hiring private investigators here and in Belarus, and making contact with the consuls here and in their country. There is no doubt in my mind, these women and others connected to them planned all of this, that they conspired and committed perjury and fraud, and have made their children party to it. I am also aware my wife has broken some laws and perjured herself since leaving me, inclusive with the IRS. She has been given some very bad advice, but I am not going to detail any of that here.
So okay, it is true, I saw the Gold Digger in my wife, most of the good looking women I have know throughout my life were to one degree or another, but in my wife’s case, she was always that way from day one..she had nothing and wanted everything, and I wanted very much to spoil and indulge her..I still do but I just couldn't do enough. All of the women connected to her are these kinds of women, without exception....they "Just Want To Have Fun" and if any of you know these kinds of women..these Russian Beauties, you know they love to drink and party..dress up and live the good life. I guess that is true of many, if not most women these days. I don't know if they will succeed, they have their Green Cards, Credit Cards and seed money they've stolen away into their secret bank accounts while going through the green card process, spousal support and child support in one case…they all were preparing for a long time for their escape(s) from their horrible husbands..like me.
Do I hate women? I am not so stupid/blind as to not see the Love-Hate/Can't Live With/Can't Live Without nature of relationships, and frankly I still don't know what a man's life is about if not the woman/women in his life, except maybe a life focused on building and creating..making money etc.., but that to is a serious subject unto itself and my observation that men who focus their energies on building and creating vs chasing after the love and affection of a woman... well, as I said, that is a subject unto itself.
But, back to the subject of my being a "Woman Hater". I never thought I was and while I have been going through a phase cursing them as Cold Blooded Mercenary Cows and C--ts, as my tears settle, in truth, I wish my wife would stop and allow sweetness and tenderness, mutual forgiveness and love to re-enter our lives and relationship. Idiot that I may be, I will not give up on her or the boy. They don't know this but they are a part of me and I have come to understand her longing to "Live" verses "Survive".
You here can say and think what you like. My experience would not have almost killed me if this woman/my woman were not very special to me. By most standards and in the minds of those close to me, she deserves to be exposed and thrown away, stomped and deport, but I will share a secret with you here that I can not even tell my best friend..
I am not going to turn on her, I am not going to throw her away, I am not going to do a long list of things I could do and have been advised to do by both and attorney and a Judge that would result in our marriage being Annulled and having her and her friends being brought to the attention of the authorities here and in their country. There are things and people I will not mention here who assure me they do not like this kind of behavior and how it reflects on them and others.
I refuse, I will not seek revenge or as some would say "Justice". I consider myself a better man than that… I am not that fat ugly frog I saw in that movie about the Chinese Gold Digger, and I am a better man than the men my wife is going to find out there... not as the broken and weak man I let myself become, but the man she saw when she first met me.
And so, and regardless of what the Hens and Piss ants think or have to say, I have decided to focus on rebuilding my fortune, my mind, my health and regaining the man I am still capable of being. Ironically, I was actually seriously considering my value as a Suicidal Martyr for Love Vs bringing myself back to the man she would be proud of and might be jealous of losing. Women are this way...another deep subject.
So, what am I really saying? What does it boil down to? Yes, many of these women are Gold Diggers, they have mercenary hearts developed over years of not having in their countries; they are capable of unbelievable betrayal..of smiling and showing love even as they are preparing to dump you in the middle of the night. Since everything apparently comes from women, i.e. Children etc, it isn't unreasonable to say that both the Good and the Bad in mankind sprouts from women...somehow I am reminded of Bees/the Queen Bee and I guess that makes us men what?
For my part, my love, care and bond to my Aksana is not going to be conditional. Time will of course tell. She chose me from amongst the 20 dates I am told her friend Sveta arranged and frankly, I am still better looking and more capable than any of the men I encountered at all these parties she and I used to go to. In a conversation I had with her when she was trying to get money from me (her only reason for calling after 7 months), she spoke of a fresh start after our divorce. For me, the fresh start starts now..I will delay and avoid the divorce and focus on ME, my finances and a move to the Ocean to set up house. And prepare a home she might want to come back to.
Is love a game? Well, it sure as hell looks that way. Why would any of us men go through what we go through for our immigrant wives if they were not special? I know that for me, no woman I have seen, and I have been looking in every direction every day, can compare to my Aksana (can I say my?) Yeah okay, I am a love sick fool...even I can laugh about it today. Maybe everything I now do will only result in my getting past all of this and like most, I will end up finding a new love or even a better woman or maybe my need for the love and companionship and beautiful woman I can be passionate about to share my life with will fade....maybe I will get a dog and buy a sailboat, but right now, my goal is to regain control of my life, my finances and the man I was and still am inside and then "WIN HER BACK"!!!!!! Go ahead and roll your eyes...I am even going to begin sending her parents money again..they are so poor their in Belarus and her mother is the closest thing to a mother I have left, since mine is dead.
Whatever the case, whatever any of you think, I am coming to my own conclusions. Yes, everything horrible I said about women remains true..it IS true, but not just about these immigrant women. We all use whatever we have to get what we want and in the case of these Russian/Byelorussia women, their looks and *** are their biggest asset because US Men make it so. Facing the truth is liberating. If a man wants a good looking woman who he is thrilled to go home to and wake up to….a woman who motivates him to walk through fire and climb mountains, he had better be prepared to be eaten if he fails. Is there a song about that?
I thank you all for the opportunity to vent and share, and even though there are some amongst you I don't approve of or agree with, you too have serve a purpose in helping me become clear on what I really feel and think. We live in a cheapened throw away society...in a country that has created a lot of bad karma that even now is beginning to bare its fruit. I for one am going to focus on rising above it all and being in a position to pull my wife and the boy up and away with me, if that is possible.
I can see how some will be thinking I am delusional and maybe worse, but each of us has to find our own way in this world and it is not you I need to convince or win back. It just happens that because I let go of my old life and most of my friends to become involved in a new life with my wife and her friends that I found myself utterly alone with no one or where to talk/vent what was/has been going on with me except here. I best friend sure as hell doesn't want to here about her, as he thought she was a User, a Gold Digger from day one, and my children don't want to hear about it because she has been hurting me...and so, and because some here cared enough to engage me here, here is where I have been going through my process and maybe some who find these posting will learn something of benefit as well.
Like What? Well, for one thing, all men who have or are considering marrying one of these Russian/Belarussian Beauties had better know that a woman who is prepared to leave her home, family and friends is not going to settle for an average life or less than she thinks she can get elsewhere...they will eat heart out if you do not bust your *** to put them on a pedestal. They are extremely conscious of what their girlfriends have and are getting from their American Husbands...its very much a game of keeping up or ahead of the Jones.. it is so very female. Not Male…but FEMALE.
As for those here who have come from or are defending immigrant women who are/were in abusive relationships; there are a lot more frogs, dogs and bugs out there than Princes. I know such men, the Armchair Quarterbacks, men who think that because they pay the bills their wives should be their bond slaves. That was never me, I adored my wife..loved taking care of her..doing her hair, making something special for us to eat..taking her dancing. I have to watch out, I will have myself crying again.
Yeah, maybe I am nuts, maybe I am a romantic fool. Maybe God will not help me and is just maneuvering me forward to settling for a woman who is less “High Maintenance†or maybe it doesn’t matter because I will drop dead of a heart attack next month or year…maybe a lot of things. All I know is that after all the hurt, the tears and realizations about both Aksana and myself, I love the woman and miss her and if it is in my power to overcome all that has happened and begin a new life with her and the boy, I am **** well going to do my best to make it happen.
Did I miss anything? Oh, the influence of women upon women. Sooner or later women drive each other crazy, let's hope it's not too soon and I have enough time to offer an escape into a new life with me, verses with another man. I guess there is something wrong with me knowing my wife has been with other men.. I will have to think more about that.
Bigdummy: My initial response to you would have been that an ANNULLMENT would be important to a Catholic who may want to marry again in a Catholic church. Annullments, when granted by the Catholic Church declare that the marriage is/was invalid...for whatever reason stated.
I then found the definition of the word...
1 : the act of annulling : the state of being annulled 2 : a judicial pronouncement declaring a marriage invalid
And I'm pretty sure you can get an annullment (through the Catholic Church) after divorce. Since you're not Catholic, it wouldn't matter for you at the Church level.
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Originally posted by bigdummy: I have noticed some posts that say don't get divorced, but rather file for an annulment. I ended my marriage the fastest way I could, which I believed was divorce. Trying to get it annuled never even occured to me. I guess I thought that was something you did if the marriage only lasted a few days or if you are Catholic. My marriage was 6-months and I am not Catholic. Anyway, how does a marriage ending differ from an immigration standpoint by divorce vs. annulment. Is it possible to file for an annulment after a divorce has been granted?
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You are almost there in understanding women and the law my friend. You have to understand the weird interplay between love-abuse-law.
A nice guy meets woman. He has normal desires and wants as does she. Whatever these are is unimportant. There are several ways to get you want, but basically it is "power" of some sort (money, force, se*uality, whatever...). Power gives you what you desire.
In our immigration situation, the man has the "power" to get a GC for a woman who has se*ual power. When she gets close to getting her goal, she desires new things, more money, cars, houses, etc... The woman has been prepped by USCIS that she can get more of what she wants by setting up an abuse claim. The man typically has lost his power legally and he is shocked that the laws he read about in the process are difficult or impossible to enforce. He finds that he is accused of crimes he never committed and risks losing more "power" (ie. money or freedom). And then like all men in a divorce, he sees that the "power" is really in the hands of the woman.
Lets say a woman wants to divorce you. She can take away everything you own. You see it on this board where woman after woman ask how they can take more and more. What limit is there in a divorce. Lets say a man wants to divorce the woman; he is in the same position. Either way its a losing situation for the man.
If you think the "traditional" way...
Now what if you break out of the box....
Impeach Obama ! ............................... SOM - THE VOICE OF REASON
How? You maintain your power always; your money, your freedom, your self-respect, etc...
Instead of being Mr. Nice Guy, you become the **** that women love. Marriage? Thats for nice guys. When these women leave their husbands after getting their greencards, where do they go? To the biggest ****s ! Cars, Houses, cash? The woman never sees the ****s money because he is spending hers. Abuse? sure why not slap them around? They usually like it and you will be accused of it anyway if you are Mr. Nice Guy.
Men that lie, cheat and steal retain their power over women. Its the ****s that get all the women bcause they retain the power.
1. Avoid marriage but if you do use a strong solid prenup (a lawyer is a must) 2. Use her money, not yours 3. Become the abuser, not the abused; you will be accused of it anyway so do not be concerned about the morality; just don't give her any opportunity to get you arrested 4. Keep all records locked up where she can't get them; have all assets in your name; make sure she pays you, not the other way around 5. Divorce her if loses respect for you (but ironically, if you really abuse her she will always respect you)
Impeach Obama ! ............................... SOM - THE VOICE OF REASON
Originally posted by MajKarma: Frankly, much of these recent postings don't warrant a response or my entangling myself in what I consider prattle or worse; twisting my situation or what I have said or meant or into something they are not.
I came to this forum for help and I guess I have gotten some help, since I have not hung myself and am not starting/ending my day weeping like a baby as I have for the past 10 months. Sure, I still cry but hearing myself whine has gotten old for even me.
What in fact is happening with me, is my heart is quieting and subsequently my mind clearing. My capacity for hurt and misery is my own, as it is for each of you. Whatever the case, I am going to respond because I in some ways started or at minimum perpetuated this topic of “Green Card Marriages†and if not dispute, at least clear the air where I stand..what I think and feel…not what you think or feel or what your opinion is, this is from me and about me…the rest of you can think and swim as you like.
I was never talking about national divorce statistics or abstract observations and experiences. Everything I have shared here is based on what has been happening to me and a huge percentage of the men I personally know who have married Russian/Byelorussia Women.
I must also note here that the ugly/less attractive of these women are still with their husbands, which is a subject unto itself that deals with what women will do and are capable of if they have options, and let’s face it, attractive women have more options than the not so attractive women do…it is again us Men’s fault because we are the enablers. Even if we could have a brand put on the foreheads these women that says “I am a USER and Betrayers, Look Out-Gold Digger†there would be still be plenty of men who would pick them up and carry them forward.. another deep subject.
There is much I am now seeing as my eyes clear of tears and heart numbs so my brain can regain control. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that my wife is a classic example of a Gold Digger, as are ALL of the women closely connected to her…they advise each other, support each other and conspire with each other in what they believe, want and do. I do not need a court or the confirmation of you here to know that my wife conspired with her girlfriends, her son and probably this attorney of hers as we moved through the green card process knowing full well what she was going to do after the conditions for a perm green card were removed. Nor do I need to be a genius to know she has betrayed me in every way she thought necessary to get what she wants, before and since she left me; I am hearing about her moving around and the men and from my perspective she has cheapened herself and the plan that she and the two other women with her are attempting is going to be fun for a while but is going to bite them in the *** inevitably, as one of the husbands is wealthy enough and vindictive enough to fight back, not limited to hiring private investigators here and in Belarus, and making contact with the consuls here and in their country. There is no doubt in my mind, these women and others connected to them planned all of this, that they conspired and committed perjury and fraud, and have made their children party to it. I am also aware my wife has broken some laws and perjured herself since leaving me, inclusive with the IRS. She has been given some very bad advice, but I am not going to detail any of that here.
So okay, it is true, I saw the Gold Digger in my wife, most of the good looking women I have know throughout my life were to one degree or another, but in my wife’s case, she was always that way from day one..she had nothing and wanted everything, and I wanted very much to spoil and indulge her..I still do but I just couldn't do enough. All of the women connected to her are these kinds of women, without exception....they "Just Want To Have Fun" and if any of you know these kinds of women..these Russian Beauties, you know they love to drink and party..dress up and live the good life. I guess that is true of many, if not most women these days. I don't know if they will succeed, they have their Green Cards, Credit Cards and seed money they've stolen away into their secret bank accounts while going through the green card process, spousal support and child support in one case…they all were preparing for a long time for their escape(s) from their horrible husbands..like me.
Do I hate women? I am not so stupid/blind as to not see the Love-Hate/Can't Live With/Can't Live Without nature of relationships, and frankly I still don't know what a man's life is about if not the woman/women in his life, except maybe a life focused on building and creating..making money etc.., but that to is a serious subject unto itself and my observation that men who focus their energies on building and creating vs chasing after the love and affection of a woman... well, as I said, that is a subject unto itself.
But, back to the subject of my being a "Woman Hater". I never thought I was and while I have been going through a phase cursing them as Cold Blooded Mercenary Cows and C--ts, as my tears settle, in truth, I wish my wife would stop and allow sweetness and tenderness, mutual forgiveness and love to re-enter our lives and relationship. Idiot that I may be, I will not give up on her or the boy. They don't know this but they are a part of me and I have come to understand her longing to "Live" verses "Survive".
You here can say and think what you like. My experience would not have almost killed me if this woman/my woman were not very special to me. By most standards and in the minds of those close to me, she deserves to be exposed and thrown away, stomped and deport, but I will share a secret with you here that I can not even tell my best friend..
I am not going to turn on her, I am not going to throw her away, I am not going to do a long list of things I could do and have been advised to do by both and attorney and a Judge that would result in our marriage being Annulled and having her and her friends being brought to the attention of the authorities here and in their country. There are things and people I will not mention here who assure me they do not like this kind of behavior and how it reflects on them and others.
I refuse, I will not seek revenge or as some would say "Justice". I consider myself a better man than that… I am not that fat ugly frog I saw in that movie about the Chinese Gold Digger, and I am a better man than the men my wife is going to find out there... not as the broken and weak man I let myself become, but the man she saw when she first met me.
And so, and regardless of what the Hens and Piss ants think or have to say, I have decided to focus on rebuilding my fortune, my mind, my health and regaining the man I am still capable of being. Ironically, I was actually seriously considering my value as a Suicidal Martyr for Love Vs bringing myself back to the man she would be proud of and might be jealous of losing. Women are this way...another deep subject.
So, what am I really saying? What does it boil down to? Yes, many of these women are Gold Diggers, they have mercenary hearts developed over years of not having in their countries; they are capable of unbelievable betrayal..of smiling and showing love even as they are preparing to dump you in the middle of the night. Since everything apparently comes from women, i.e. Children etc, it isn't unreasonable to say that both the Good and the Bad in mankind sprouts from women...somehow I am reminded of Bees/the Queen Bee and I guess that makes us men what?
For my part, my love, care and bond to my Aksana is not going to be conditional. Time will of course tell. She chose me from amongst the 20 dates I am told her friend Sveta arranged and frankly, I am still better looking and more capable than any of the men I encountered at all these parties she and I used to go to. In a conversation I had with her when she was trying to get money from me (her only reason for calling after 7 months), she spoke of a fresh start after our divorce. For me, the fresh start starts now..I will delay and avoid the divorce and focus on ME, my finances and a move to the Ocean to set up house. And prepare a home she might want to come back to.
Is love a game? Well, it sure as hell looks that way. Why would any of us men go through what we go through for our immigrant wives if they were not special? I know that for me, no woman I have seen, and I have been looking in every direction every day, can compare to my Aksana (can I say my?) Yeah okay, I am a love sick fool...even I can laugh about it today. Maybe everything I now do will only result in my getting past all of this and like most, I will end up finding a new love or even a better woman or maybe my need for the love and companionship and beautiful woman I can be passionate about to share my life with will fade....maybe I will get a dog and buy a sailboat, but right now, my goal is to regain control of my life, my finances and the man I was and still am inside and then "WIN HER BACK"!!!!!! Go ahead and roll your eyes...I am even going to begin sending her parents money again..they are so poor their in Belarus and her mother is the closest thing to a mother I have left, since mine is dead.
Whatever the case, whatever any of you think, I am coming to my own conclusions. Yes, everything horrible I said about women remains true..it IS true, but not just about these immigrant women. We all use whatever we have to get what we want and in the case of these Russian/Byelorussia women, their looks and *** are their biggest asset because US Men make it so. Facing the truth is liberating. If a man wants a good looking woman who he is thrilled to go home to and wake up to….a woman who motivates him to walk through fire and climb mountains, he had better be prepared to be eaten if he fails. Is there a song about that?
I thank you all for the opportunity to vent and share, and even though there are some amongst you I don't approve of or agree with, you too have serve a purpose in helping me become clear on what I really feel and think. We live in a cheapened throw away society...in a country that has created a lot of bad karma that even now is beginning to bare its fruit. I for one am going to focus on rising above it all and being in a position to pull my wife and the boy up and away with me, if that is possible.
I can see how some will be thinking I am delusional and maybe worse, but each of us has to find our own way in this world and it is not you I need to convince or win back. It just happens that because I let go of my old life and most of my friends to become involved in a new life with my wife and her friends that I found myself utterly alone with no one or where to talk/vent what was/has been going on with me except here. I best friend sure as hell doesn't want to here about her, as he thought she was a User, a Gold Digger from day one, and my children don't want to hear about it because she has been hurting me...and so, and because some here cared enough to engage me here, here is where I have been going through my process and maybe some who find these posting will learn something of benefit as well.
Like What? Well, for one thing, all men who have or are considering marrying one of these Russian/Belarussian Beauties had better know that a woman who is prepared to leave her home, family and friends is not going to settle for an average life or less than she thinks she can get elsewhere...they will eat heart out if you do not bust your *** to put them on a pedestal. They are extremely conscious of what their girlfriends have and are getting from their American Husbands...its very much a game of keeping up or ahead of the Jones.. it is so very female. Not Male…but FEMALE.
As for those here who have come from or are defending immigrant women who are/were in abusive relationships; there are a lot more frogs, dogs and bugs out there than Princes. I know such men, the Armchair Quarterbacks, men who think that because they pay the bills their wives should be their bond slaves. That was never me, I adored my wife..loved taking care of her..doing her hair, making something special for us to eat..taking her dancing. I have to watch out, I will have myself crying again.
Yeah, maybe I am nuts, maybe I am a romantic fool. Maybe God will not help me and is just maneuvering me forward to settling for a woman who is less “High Maintenance†or maybe it doesn’t matter because I will drop dead of a heart attack next month or year…maybe a lot of things. All I know is that after all the hurt, the tears and realizations about both Aksana and myself, I love the woman and miss her and if it is in my power to overcome all that has happened and begin a new life with her and the boy, I am **** well going to do my best to make it happen.
Did I miss anything? Oh, the influence of women upon women. Sooner or later women drive each other crazy, let's hope it's not too soon and I have enough time to offer an escape into a new life with me, verses with another man. I guess there is something wrong with me knowing my wife has been with other men.. I will have to think more about that.
I put myself out there trying to help and you shot me down with every try. I don't think you want help or friends and I've worried about you too much. I tried to be a friend to you outside of your circle of bellarussian beauties and mates - I'm no frog either, MajKarma. 5'4" 100 lbs, blonde and green eyed - but appearances shouldn't be the issue here when people are trying to help. That's really all I have to say because I said I wasn't making any more comments. No more advice. I tried to be a friend - you spurned it, even attacked it, so I wish you well.
No, Sonof, you don't like women over 30, so we wouldn't work out. Shallow men drive me crazy the same as gold diggers and green card scammers drive me nuts. I happen to still look similar to Christie Brinkley (she's older than me), but I have a husband that's going to appreciate me when I don't look like this anymore. So, I'm not looking for takers. Just trying to help with unhateful advice here.
I was in fact not speaking of you ProudUSC and your help and compassion remain valued and appreciated, but that also does not say I agree or disagree with everything you say/said/think.
I know for example you disagree/disapprove of my opionion about the darkness ALL women appear to have inside them and their unique abilty to appear loving and happy while they are betraying and preparing you/their mate for dinner. I am really sure why this is true, maybe it is repressed anger that suddenly vent, maybe it is any number of things and while you and others can say "I am not like that, NOT ME" I have heard it in you as well. Sorry, but again, this is what I believe and if I am wrong, I have nothing to prove it thus far.
Also, just because someone agrees with me here and sides with my perspective, does not go to say I agree with them altogether. Ironically, I've never liked most men for a list of reasons and always liked and preferred the company of women...but that was before I realized I was and had been on the menu...I used to be the guy women cheated on their husbands with, but let me add that when I found out I dumped them and worse...called and told their husbands. I hate nothing more than betrayal and traitors.
Well, at least I am becoming my old self a bit more..the guy who once ran 3 bank branches with over 400 employees, the guy who made $5.5M before he was 25, the 79 Tevis Winner (100 mile pony express endurance race/on horse back) the guy my children still call to say good night every night, the guy many men always hated because I mader them look like the frogs many of them are... you know the Leo Male
I am also feeling better because I truly sense Aksana and things are not the bed of roses she thought they would be.
Anyway, stop thinking I was talking about you.. I was talking in general and about numerous postings here.
<MajKarma>
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Wow, that ain't me. I could never be that way with a woman. Jesus H Christ, if that is what women want, no wonder I have problems.. I want a woman I can be good too and who will be good to me. I don't like games..and I am not a USER.
If this is what you believe and did with your wife, no wonder she left you.
Please, don't act like we are buddys I don't approve of much you had to say...it ain't me!!
I have heard it in you as well. Sorry, but again, this is what I believe and if I am wrong, I have nothing to prove it thus far.
Okay, if you've heard this in me, I'd like to see it. I poured my heart out to you and nothing that I remember ever showed a dark side of me. Oh well, I've given you my best advice and tried to be a friend - you didn't want it, so again, I wish you well.
Again you seem to be taking something personal when in fact I was not talking about you, except you are a woman and that isn't my fault.
Moreover, if the shoe doesn't fit, there is no need to say so.
And again, I do sincerely appreciate your trying to help me and being compassionate, but does that mean I have to agree with you? I dare not get specific but you have what I have spoken of in you...it is there as clear as a bell ringin in my ear. I sense that you are not a Taker and have resisted, but the ability to do all that I have said women are well capable of doing is just under the surface. Look at how you respond when you feel like I have critisized or grouped you in with other women...your response is as though there was a specific response you wanted. Please tell me what you want to hear and I will cut and paste it.
Disengage..I told you before you should disengage and focus on your life, your rerlationship and husband. There is really nothing anyone here can say or do now for me..my course is set and as arrogant as I am going to sound, I was never anyone's peer here...just as a man and human being married to a Belarussian that is eating him and because I don't want a divorce and don't want another woman and don't want to give up on her I have been being torn apart.
I'm disengaged - never meant to cause you any more stress about the female species. I thought we were friends - so bye-bye, MajKarma. I still wish you well, but don't need any more negative female bashing directed at me.
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