Love truly blinds people isn't it. Hudson is nicer and more optimistic than me, but I'll be truly surprise if this doesn't develop into the fallback plan. One of those rare times where Michael's "expertise" is needed....
Originally posted by marmaduk: Love truly blinds people isn't it. Hudson is nicer and more optimistic than me, but I'll be truly surprise if this doesn't develop into the fallback plan. One of those rare times where Michael's "expertise" is needed....
Well, not knowing both sides of the story, his and hers, is the reason why I suggested marriage counseling. For him, he definitely has some issues, some of which was alluded in his last response. She may also have some issues as well. If they truly want to reconcile, which is possible, marriage counseling with a qualified professional, is the best chance for both of them, even if it does not work out for any reason.
All Michael will say is "deport her and send her back to Russia!"
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Originally posted by MajKarma: 7 months and 20 days after leaving me in the middle of the night, (5 days after she could have completed her divorce) Aksana finally called and talked to me, and has been calling me each night for the past 4 nights.
I can't help myself, I know I am less than the man some would have me be, but just hearing her sweet voice was like having life breathed back into my soul. She is so much stronger than I am, She says she wants to be independent, that she didn't plan this and there is a chance that we could be together again if I pick myself up...but that she wants to live at the beach.
I don't care what anyone says, I love this woman. Maybe for the first time in my life I truly love someone because my heart apparently doesn't care what she has done.. I would forgive her anything. She is human, trying to find happiness, tired of our money problems and the insecurity many of us in the free world face every day (remember, she is a child of the Communist bubble that burst). If I am any kind of a man, I am going to rise up and be her champion no matter what comes. Crazy? Maybe! What is life about if not the pursuit of your heart's desire? She says if I get on my feet and prove myself that it's very possible that she'd come back to me. Some will say she is just manuvering me, but I can't help myself..I miss her so very much that some hope is better than no hope and when I search my soul I still believe in her and I...that there is a tie that binds and what she has done is what it took for me to stand up and be all I can be.
I had to come and tell. I have cried every day, slept on the couch every night sincew she left and almost lost my mind in this process, said things that are all true to one extent or another, and it would be wrong for me not to come back and say the truth that is above all facts and feelings..namely, that I love that woman and forgive her and everyone involved willingly, and if there is a God I heaven who answers such prayers, he will help me do what I must do to win back her trust and heart, and help us make a fresh start...yes, at the beach, where we both belong. I am sure there are plenty of monsters out there to say all the bad ****, but I don't want to hear it.
You sound like a very insecure man. Unless you didn't tell you whole story, why do you need to 'win back her trust and heart'? It was she (not you) who snuck off in the middle of the night. Seems like she should be the one trying to win back your trust. I just hope she's not setting you up for another huge letdown. Don't allow blind love for this woman to take over your ability to make sound decisions regarding your future. I believe (as Hudson said), you both could benefit from counseling prior to jumping back into this relationship with both feet.
Oh - and BTW, there are plenty of attractive, single over-35 women here in the USC. Maybe not as submissive as you might like, but they are out there.
Who in their right mind would want any woman over 35? A woman is good only up until her late 20's; after that they are garbage. Men,on the other hand, do not reach their peak until mid-40's.
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I understand and from my personal obeseveration about women, it is true, most women over 35 are screwed up inside and out. Trust me when I say I am no frog, have good eyes to see have been looking around for a replacement to Aksana...**** thing about it is she s exactly what I want and none can compare to her. Sure, there are more attractive, more honest and giving but there are things about her that I irresplacable and I have no idea what to do except let fate take its course. As it stands, her God **** Attorney is making everything very hard and may well kill any chance we have at a fresh start, he has subverted her so severly that she may well burn all bridges in the divorce process. The end draws close and we will see.
Originally posted by SonofMichael: Who in their right mind would want any woman over 35? A woman is good only up until her late 20's; after that they are garbage. Men,on the other hand, do not reach their peak until mid-40's.
You couldn't be more wrong! Men reach their peak in their upper t-e-e-n-s - women reach theirs when they are 40! You are certainly missing out on some mighty good stuff, SonofMichael.
Originally posted by MajKarma: I understand and from my personal obeseveration about women, it is true, most women over 35 are screwed up inside and out. Trust me when I say I am no frog, have good eyes to see have been looking around for a replacement to Aksana...**** thing about it is she s exactly what I want and none can compare to her. Sure, there are more attractive, more honest and giving but there are things about her that I irresplacable and I have no idea what to do except let fate take its course. As it stands, her God **** Attorney is making everything very hard and may well kill any chance we have at a fresh start, he has subverted her so severly that she may well burn all bridges in the divorce process. The end draws close and we will see.
You haven't met the right woman yet. American women, at least those who weren't ****ed up by marriage in their early twenties are strong, independent, contributing partners to a marriage. No need for you to have to foot the whole bill. Those of us American women who were college educated, making 6 figures by the time we're 35 aren't interesting? Or, is it just lustful *** you are after? Because that alone does not make a relationship work. I know, being an American woman, I would have never snuck off in the night leaving my spouse wondering what the h-e-l-l happened. I would have been honest enough to have laid the problems on the table - that's what's different about American ladies and the green card scamming Russians. Your choice, though. Hope it works out for you.
Maj Karma don't be so sure, the women I know over 35 are extremely intelligent, sure of themselves, knowledgable, you need to know where to look. Obviously by reading this page there's an abudance of idiots, they are just asking for it and they get what they deserve.
I am sure there are many who will not be surprised and be saying "I told You So", but only recently have I begun to see the light about these/this group of Belarussina Women.
Last month after 6 months of Aksana not returning calls or emails or any sign she gave a **** about me, I got a call from her saying she didn't want to cause me problems..that she had file her tax returns as "Single" but that the IRS had kept the refund for taxes owe and that she wouldn't cause me trouble if I would give her the money...that was reduced to half when I told her I didn't have any money. Anyway, she committed perjury by telling the IRS she was Single in 2005, as she had not left me until August 4th or filed for her divorce until Oct 19th. I have nothing to hide from the IRS and am not sure what they will do when they learn the truth about her Single Status.
This is the end of it. Now today I recieved a call from Jerry who is married to Aksana's niece telling me his wife Irina has filed for divorce and is out to get half of everything he has. So now I learn that Irina, Eda and Aksana Karavai have all used men to get here, get legal, bring their children here and then dump them. Add to these 4 other Belarussian women who I know have done the same thing and it pretty well looks like a trend/formula.
I do not want to here any of you women defend this ****..there is something dark and evil about you women and I am seeing it everywhere and hearing about it from other men..all crying and bleeding from what their Russian/Belarussian wives have/are doing.
Whatever the case, Aksana also told me after the divorce we could have a fresh start but now I am finally realizing just how dark and evil these women are.
I could tell more details, but I am not wanting to warn any of those here that are these women's allies what is coming but I will say they are Criminals and Justice is going to come to them all now.
I do not want to here any of you women defend this ****..there is something dark and evil about you women and I am seeing it everywhere and hearing about it from other men..all crying and bleeding from what their Russian/Belarussian wives have/are doing.
What are you saying, MajKarma? Are you directing this statement to Russian women or all of us? You cannot categorize. All Russian women are not scammers - nor are all women of any nationality. There are bad amongst all of us. I'm sorry you got hurt, but you need to rise above this. There are plenty of good women out there (your nationality of choice). Good luck to you and I hope everything turns out okay.
I am of course not surprised by the responses, excuses and would-be explainations, but the fact is I was not talking about the "Exceptions", I was talking about the "Majority", the "Rule" from my personal observations and experience. Moreover, the men here know I am right, as scary as that reality is; i.e. "That Most Of These Russian/Belarussian Women" are Cold Blooded Mercenary Monsters. This is not to say that the majority of women are not, just that the women who do and are capable of finding an American Husband are more so. No, I am not kidding and could not be more serious!! Moreover, I have come to the conclusion that the "Heart of Darkness & All Evil" is spun out of women, the lack of women, the desire for women. Again, I am not joking. You men can ask yourself this question: If you had a woman you loved and adored, who was good to you and was basically the love of your life, what would you do or not do for them? If she begged you to find another job, move to another city, not pursue or to pursue something...if you were in the Military and your love, your wife begged you not to reenlist..would you? I know that I would do anything for my love, my wife and after asking this same question of 14 other men each are of the same mind as I, we would do anything for our wives. Think about this..think about Abortion and Divorce and how given the option and opportunity how many women have in effect murdered their own child.. how many men could do the same? I certainly could not, nor am I a betrayer and murderer, as is a woman who divorces a husband that loves her and would do anything to make things right.
No, I am not joking! Ask yourself about "Terrorist" and who without the support of their "Mothers" would not be terrorists, or if they had loving wives who would not find a means to support them or do whatever they want.
Good or Bad, Women are the driving force for us men and while there are Good Women who stand behind Good Men, there are far more bad Women and subsequently we now live in an Immoral World full of Bad Men.. Think about Bush...think about America and what we have done in the Middle East...think about the Abortion and Divorce Rate...the numbers we have in Prison. No, I am not kidding, women are evil..not all but the good ones are oh so rare and amongst these Russians/Belarussian..and I know of 26...there are only two I am sure are not Mercenary *****s who would not betray and throw their husbands over if they lost their jobs/money.
Very sobbering but another realization of why I see black men treat women like *****s, but that is expanded topic that deals with women's ability to cheat.
Yes, I am getting better and will be fine realizing you F---in women hearts have dollar signs branded on them.
You men can step up and defend as you like, I was a love sick fool once too.
Not every woman is like that......seriously....I know it's hard to believe after how bad you ended up with a woman you actually really loved....I hope you're better now than you were when you wrote your story to us. Have a nice day, okay?!
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No of course not "Every Woman" is like that, just almost every woman I know. I wish this were not true. I grew up putting women on a pedestal, opening the doors for them, buying them things, jumping through my *** to make them happy, wanting and trying to be their "White Knight", but without exception every woman in my life turned out to be two faced, money motivated, caring more what their girlfriends and other women thought than what I thought..particularly once they had me. I am sorry, and while I am certain there are exceptions, as a rule, you women have dark evil hearts. I wish I was a pyschologist, then I might grasp the mind of a woman..understand why they treat men who love and adore them like **** and run after the men that treat them like dirt. I have read a number of books about "Stop Your Divorce/Save Your Marriage" etc etc...each and every one of these books say things like " Reject Her" "Find Another Woman and Make Her Jealous" "Play Harde To Get", "Act Happy About Whatever She Wants"...what kind of mind and heart does that work on? A woman's heart. Most of you women just no good. I am sorry. You are betrayers and cheaters and murderers and I truly question whether you have souls. Unthethered and allowed to do what you please, you are capable of the worst and are just fine with it. I can list 7 men who are divorced and every single one of them is still seriously damaged years later, while their wives have all remarried and while they are not happy, they have no guilt over what they did..just regret when they realize they did not do better.
I wish I was wrong. I too have a mother and she is dead, so I can not ask her, but I did ask him about their divorce and he told me how she almost killed him, how he begged and pleaded and tried everything to no avail. I am sorry, but now after 52 years and many failed relationships I am finally realizing that most of youi women are scum, tramps, *****, betrayer, gold digging black hearts who eat your mates usually around the 4th year is what I am reading. I am also realizing that it is because of my fellow man that women get away with this because if another man would not step in and take over, most of these women would not get away with this kind of behavior, but no, they can get dolled up and go find another man. Well, I am noit determined to punish such men when I learn such...they sure has hell won't be my friend or work for me.
Again, I wish this was not true, but it is and while I am not saying "All Women" I personally know of no exceptions.
It was mentioned that my wife talking about our having a fresh start was nothing but her preparing a back up position. I see now that was true also. However, she is her on a Green Card and is like her fellow Succubuses are Russian/Belarussian Citizens. I and a few others are going to make sure their Embassys and others know all about what they have done. Moreover, I am going to remember the saying "Hell have no fury like that of a woman's scorn" and adopt it to my life. Vendictive? I will never again give a woman a fair break...for the rest of my life I will lie and cheat and treat them as they have treated me. Angry? You bet but never think for a moment I seek more than justice in the light of day. I am no criminal and would only seek that the truth be made clear for all to see. I wonder how many of you women could function if everyone knew what you do.
seems to me she never had any good intentions.... Many women get hooked up here only to receive citizenship, but it seems she hit the jackpot with you... Saying things like that only make her bolder in her decisions, and will make take you for everything you own, plus citizenship... If I was you, I would go after her with all the fury in the world... because while you're sitting in front of the computer feeling sorry for yourself, saying the things you're saying, she's probably in some hotel room trying to seduce another rich guy... Don't forget that Specially russian women, are notorious for doing that sort of thing... obviously not all, I went out with a chick from Russia, And she was very nice, and a great piece of booty, and we're still friends, even though I am married to the most beautiful, and caring Argentinian woman which I met in Argentina back in 1991... Go after her, and make her lose any rights she gained thanks to you, and make her get deported to her country without a penny... I know I would. Your best bet is to be cold to her next time you see her, and tell her her little vacation is over with a stone cold face. I feel your pain but I bet you not only speak like this here, you do it amongst your friends and everyone around you, and that is the worst thing you can do to yourself, because in today's world, the weak don't stand a chance... And from what I see, she is no weakling. My american ex took me for everything I had... for about 14 months, until I went nuts and sued her for everything just to tie her up in court, I thought I didnt stand a chance... but it turns out during one of the hearings the truth about her infidelity came out, and so the judgement against me was reversed and now she owed me money, and lots of it. She now lives in a trailer in Florida where last I heard she became a crackhead... A proper ending for such a heartless animal.
Word of advice: Destroy her, send her back to wherever she came from and let her come back on her own if she likes it here so much. And get up from the computer, take a shower, and go camping, or fishing or something, take some friends with you and have a good time, clear your mind from this mess and reset your brain. Stop dwelling on what could have been, it's not worth it. Besides, what do you think would happen to you if you two got back toghether... would you forgive her for laughing at you while getting stuffed by some other guy not caring with her legs up in the air, that you're on the computer reaching out, miserably in pain? That will always be in the back of your brain unfortunately, and I don't think you will ever trust her, and that, my friend will be worst than the current situation because you will realize you just lost MORE time over something which would have never worked. Do what I did, put your chest out, and go out into the world, I am confident you will find someone else soon enough.
I spoke to Jerry today, he says she and the boy were living with some guy in Dana Point but she moved out. So, eerything you say is true and I have been just a love sick fool.
I truly hope one day you'll find a woman by your side and you'll know that she is an exception, because there are. It's just like how some woman thinks relationship is just for "fun". Well, for SOME! Others just wait, and decide to not get into any type of relationship, but in one which is forever. So they just wait, and hope that the day will come when they meet their real mate! I know it must be hard to see the exceptions right now when you got dumped like that, and any woman you've found so far just turned you down and "used" you. But since you don't deserve it, it will end in a nice way one day! You just have to decide to start a new life, and be very VERY careful! Even if you see a woman who looks nice...don't just jump into a relationship with her....just get to know her, and treat her as a normal friend. And if after a year she is still loving you.....then it wasn't because of your money, or your supportivness, but because they love you in WHO YOU ARE, and NOT what you can give to them! I wish you the best! (really!)
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I have given a great deal of thought to what this group and others have had to say. There are of course all kinds of people in this world who fall on one side or the other and to one degree or another, particularly when we are talking about "Givers and Takers". We can rationalize and theorize all we like, but after reading and re-reading and thinking about everything I have said here, I am sure I have spoken the truth. I have no doubt there is something wrong with people in general and maybe this generation is no worse than others, excpet maybe we have not had any serious wars to cull off the **** as did my grandfater's generation who I consider better people than my parent's generation, mine or this one which I consider almost utterly subverted. Nevertheless, there is a common thread that goes down through history..a common evil and I again say it springs from women. I am sure there are exceptions, women who know right from wrong and for whatever reasons (religious or moral upbringing) who are not selfish betrayers, I just don't know any of them and this is particularly true of attactive women who we all let get away with much more than we do ugly women. I am sure there is a song about this...something about not marrying a beautiful woman and that makes me chuckle as I type this serious subject.
For my part, my beautiful women has ruined me and I doubt I have time left to live up and through it.
If you wanna be happy For the rest of your life, Never make a pretty woman your wife, So from my personal point of view, Get an ugly girl to marry you.
A pretty woman makes her husband look small And very often causes his downfall. As soon as he marries her Then she starts to do The things that will break his heart. But if you make an ugly woman your wife, You'll be happy for the rest of your life, An ugly woman cooks her meals on time, She'll always give you peace of mind.
Don't let your friends say You have no taste, Go ahead and marry anyway, Though her face is ugly, Her eyes don't match, Take it from me she's a better catch.
Say man. Hey baby. Saw your wife the other day. Yeah? Yeah, she's ugly. Yeah, she's ugly but she sure can cook. Yeah?. Okay.
I'm sorry you have such a grim view of women in general. We're not all money-hungry philanderers. Some of us are on the other end of the spectrum - I hope all of this soon passes for you. You need to stop licking your wounds and step up. There's a special lady out there waiting to meet you somewhere.
On maybe a less serious note, but in truth, a much more serious note, I NEED AN ATTORNEY IN THE RIVERSIDE/CORONA CALIFORNIA AREA.
Now, after everything Aksana has done as I have detailed in my earlier postings, I hear that she went right from our home to living with a man in Dana Point (which explains why she never returned any calls amongst other things), I learn that she has moved in with Eda who was married to Aksana's first husband that committed suicide and Eda's daughter is there too. This is a tangled web to explain, let alone understand, but all three of these women have used men to get here, took what they could get and then divorced or in my case and Jerry's case are now in their process of divorcing their husbands. It is very clear to me that these 3 women, all Karavai's conspired with their other Russian/Belarussian Girlfriends to find husbands, take what they could get, divorce them and move on to their next victims.
These women, my lovely wife included, are criminals by any standard but in this country under the auspices of marriage/divorce they are getting away with murder and at the very least Green Card Fraud and I need help.
My life has been destroyed and instead of hanging myself to stop the hurt and feeling like a trapped rat in some kind of diabolical medical experiment, I want to stand up for myself. I have no doubt that if the facts are all brought out in a court of law that the facts will bare out that these women and others connected to them all planned and helped each other get to this country, find husbands and dump them as Eda and now Aksana and Irina are doing.
I do not want to hear from that QT person who I consider one of them. I would like to hear from MEN who have been victimized as I have been and/or anyone who thinks they can help me get some help standing up for myself and finding justice in our court system.
I has been suggested that I go to the News Papers and tell my story. I don't think it is time for that but am open to suggestion in that area as well.
It should also be mentioned that these women have children and the damage done to them is very apparent and as can be shown by at least 3 of the son's MySpace. Imagine a teenage boy being made party to such...being made to lie and wait and be the labor/baggage carrier.. no wonder Yan spends all his spae time into the night on MySpace trying to find finds and love.
I am not saying what has been going on very well here but I swear that the details will bare out the fact that these women and one other that I know personally planned coming here, finding husbands, getting their children here, dumping their husbands, getting whatever they could get and moving on. This is conspiracy, fraud and I am not sure of the legal terms for what else but I need a good lawyer to sort it all out, so if their is anyone out there that can help me, please speak up.
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