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I have been fined for being with a prostitute (outside the US), would that make me ineligibility for a B-1/2 visa to the US?

more specifically:
* Does there 212(a)(2)(d)(ii) apply for hiring a prostitute for myself or is only for "pimps"?

This is the only crime I have comitted
 
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What country?




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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I think more information is needed. Vague.


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Also when did it occur?


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His name is John; LOL
 
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Come On Down!!! "Bob Barker" Big Grin

You Paid For it???? Free Here "JOHN"!!! LOLOL!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Immigration Officer: What did you pay for?







The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Him But officer, she was just responding to my ad:






The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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It applies only to pimps, but your criminal conviction does cause a problem for the Consular Officer. Up to the Officer to issue.
 
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Prostitution generally makes you inadmissible for all forms of immigration benefit to the US. You don't even need to have been convicted or fined - an admission of prostitution is sufficient.

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An alien is excludable under INA §212(a)(2)(D) if he or she:
1. is coming to the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in prostitution, or has engaged in prostitution within 10 years of the date of the application for a visa, entry or adjustment of status;
2. directly or indirectly procures or attempts to procure, or (within 10 years of the date of application for a visa, entry, or adjustment of status) procured or attempted to procure or to import, prostitutes or persons for the purpose of prostitution, or receives or (within such 10 year period) received, in whole or in part, the proceeds of prostitution; or
3. is coming to the United States to engage in any other unlawful commercialized vice, whether or not related to prostitution.


It is likely you would, at the least, need a waiver (if one is available) however you should consult a reputable immigration forum. Most of us here are merely laypeople, and as you can see, a good chunk would prefer to take the mickey.


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Another fake post. Notice, the OP never came back to clarify? Waste of time.


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He posted 4 hours ago. Some of us have other things to do ...

For example, I'm going to go sit down, watch some tv and have a glass of wine. Then, I'm going to jump back on my PC and play an MMORPG, killing big bad mobs with my shaman for a couple of hours. I won't be back tonight, even though I just posted! Big Grin

And frankly, with the nonsense replies and behaviour around here, it wouldn't take much for someone to decide this site isn't worth it and go somewhere else for assistance.


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You were found with a prostitute.
Just found in the company of one, nothing in criminating but her repute or was it worse?

Im no pro, but it sounds like a hell of thing to try an shake. Ive heard they try to balance the good and bad. When looking at your record. But prostitution might be to much.

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If US will start charging ($$$) its 300+ million people for being with Prostitutes , then WITHOUT ANY DOUBT, it should never NEVER EVER invest in any future war in the middle east or milk any saudi cow. wowow, more money is coming on the way, lucky you Someone12, more Disability coverage will be on your door steps soon to afford your brain transplant Smile

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Originally posted by John1234:
I have been fined for being with a prostitute (outside the US), would that make me ineligibility for a B-1/2 visa to the US?

more specifically:
* Does there 212(a)(2)(d)(ii) apply for hiring a prostitute for myself or is only for "pimps"?

This is the only crime I have comitted
 
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Originally posted by Aroha:
He posted 4 hours ago. Some of us have other things to do ...

For example, I'm going to go sit down, watch some tv and have a glass of wine. Then, I'm going to jump back on my PC and play an MMORPG, killing big bad mobs with my shaman for a couple of hours. I won't be back tonight, even though I just posted! Big Grin

And frankly, with the nonsense replies and behaviour around here, it wouldn't take much for someone to decide this site isn't worth it and go somewhere else for assistance.


We all have other things to do. I noticed he was lurking on here after the first few replies which requested more information. Not a peep from him, so that suggests he wasn't really interested in seeking help. Intuition tells me it's a fake post.


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
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Probably another one of SonOfSpam's alias posts!


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Originally posted by Brit4064:
Probably another one of SonOfSpam's alias posts!


OH PLEASE !!! SOM is much more creative than that !! Apologize to SOM for this insult !!!!
 
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Sorry for the delay, here are some more info

* The event is recent (within 1 year)
* It occured outside the US and max penalty is 6 months imprisonment. I only got a fine, no prison

My main question would be the legal meaning of "procure" and "prostitution" and in particul if procure includes hiring a prostitute for myself or not in the legal world. I notice most dictionaries define "procure" as pandering/pimps when it comes to prostitution. In other words does my crime fall under any part of the 212(a)(2)(d)?
 
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The way I interpret it, this is regarding people who run prostitution rings, not individuals who hire prostitutes. But, it could still cause a problem for immigration purposes. I would check with a qualified immigration attorney.


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
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Perhaps the following would apply in your case since this is your only crime:

"The ground does not apply where the alien has committed only one crime of moral turpitude, the maximum penalty possible for the crime for which the alien was convicted or to which the alien admits having committed or of which acts the alien admits having committed which constitute the essential elements of the crime did not exceed one year of imprisonment and, if the alien was convicted of the crime, the alien was not sentenced to imprisonment for a term greater than six months, regardless of the extent to which the sentence was ultimately satisfied."


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
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