Boy someone12 you should really get a life first of all my nigerian is not illegal and two he is not a fraudster and three you should mind your business. I will not stoop to the level of an egotistical idiot such as your self. I am not at your level of ignorance and never will be. How much do you make per hour since you can be online all hours of the day trying to belittle people. I think your the trailer park trash. A real man would not act like such a loser. Real men have lives and dont need to do things like you do. This is a help discussion for people who have been through the same thing. Maybe you need a date site so you can get a woman. Maybe that would occupy your peanut sized brain. Then you will have her to belittle and berate. Sorry for you probably no woman wants a sorry ignorant man such as your self.The reason I want an african man is because you sorry American men cant get off your butts enough to even take care of or make a woman happy. Not that I need to explain myself to an arrogant individual as yourself.

I feel you spirit girl and yes I am aware of these things. It comes from the UK and some other countries. I know that there are alot of good christian Nigerians because I know alot that came here on DV lottery and they are my friends. They dont scam and are very hard working such as my fiance and his family. It is just because a few people here got burned that they publisize all of this Nigerian scam mess.

Bentonasia, did you give them things like phone records too? Maybe they wanted to see more evidence of a continuous relationship rather than visits.

I remember someone had similar trouble, not from Nigeria though, and even though she had evidence and all seems good, there was lack of evidence showing a continuous regular relationship, whether it be phone or internet etc.. They wanted to see more communication between them.

I am not saying that this happens often, but maybe you had a bad officer at the time, and wanted to be more thorough.

I would definitely keep trying. I don't think its age really..I know many many people with age gaps as yours if not bigger.

All the best to you, hope you get some good news soon

Let me add to someone 12 MY fiance is a 4th year law student and he is more intelligent than you would even try on a good day to be. Just admit you are working on a IET education and that your brain just cant develop as quikly as ours thats why you are so IGNORANT!!!!!!!Have a very blessed day and take very good care of yourself.

Sprint girl 07, we gave them all that, emails and everything. I even had cards my kids sent him and cards he sent us. I think that the interviewer was just not a good one. We have almost 2 years of info and even emails from his family.I hade calling card reciepts , hundreds of them and even some very personal pics. We had over 50 emails and I even booked his ticket. He even showed proof of that.I dont know what flagged it but I will fight it and do what I have to to get results because I am sincere and know I have rights. I have contacted my US State senators and a lawyer and will do what it takes to be with the one I vowed to marry. My Nigerian friends here have said that they had to go through much stress to get a visa so I expect we will too. I know someone here who had to wait through 3 Visa appointments just to finally get approved. They have been married and have three kids and she still didnt get approved. It is not an easy situation.

I agree it isn't fair. It does sound you produced a lot of evidence. Much more than I ever gave.
In fact when I went for my interview at the Embassy, they were not that interested in evidence at all. I think it might come down to the country of the immigrant unfortunately, and the officers that you deal with.
I agree, I would do whatever you can, pester anyone you can, fight all the way.
If there is no good reason as to why they think your relationship is not bona fide, then you should be heard and accepted.
Or at the very least give you a better explanation as to why you are now being denied.

I guess because some people like me come from countries like the UK, we don't really come across these kinds of problems or issues.
Well rarely if any. We take it for granted I guess.
I hope you find an answer soon..a good one at that

Thank you and I am really trying. I have alot of fight in me. Glad you could come here it is a pleasure to have you. Good thing you are not like that idiot who keeps posting stuip remarks. Who does he think he is?

You are welcome , sorry I can't be of any help.

Ignore S12, most people do eventually. Sometimes he comes up with some interesting points,but unfortunately personality and good manners he doesn't have.

Sad person he must be.

He does have a fetish for toilets for some reason though..obsessed he is LOL
We think he likes cleaning them, he keeps talking about it lol

s12's mother was illegal alien and her name is banana and she got arrested 20 years ago and she got deported to the dumpster where she belongs to and thats why he hates the immigrants,ignore him and move on

once again, the OP thinks she knows so much more than those who have had the training and experience....what gives you any clue that the officer was 'bad?' Just because she didn't buy your phony stories? Again, how many individuals have YOU interviewed? (zero) How many hours have you spent studying the Immigration & Nationality Act? (zero)...but yet, you think you know more than anyone else on this subject?
Where are your credentials?
Nigeria = fraud. And you are just too desperate for words, being played for a green card. Christian Nigerians? Now that's about as likely as an honest immigration attorney.
The Internet is filled with Nigerian scamsters, the country is full of corruption, and yet you think you have found the 1 in a 1,000,000,000 honest one? Finding 'love' on the Internet is a sure sign of desperation and gullibility....but then, those with inferior IQs like yours, often fall prey to anyone who shows interest....

Guys enough is enough.
Fighting over here don't change the consular find over immigration.
Lawyers will always say you something what looks right according to law not his/her feelings about you.
Bottomline is Nigeria being the most dangerously fraudulant country in the world and it already made a bad impression on people mind all over the world, it gonna have some affect on peoples mind no matter how much we fight over here or no matter how good of a person you really is.
Just try to appreciate the facts.

Yes, it is true I know this and I have alot of legal experience. I have just come from a immigration attorney's office and he was impressed with how far I have gotten with out legal representation. I myself have been through alot and know that this just takes time patience and understanding. No, I dont want to fight but I came on here for advise from people who have gone through the same not jibber jabber from a bunch of foolish idiots. I was looking for success stories not beratement or negativity. I can do with out that. I thought this was a legal site for grown people not haters or bashers. How can I delete my spot as I dont want to be apart of this imaturity any more? I know there are some good one who have given good advise and I thank you for it. Take care and stay blessed.

Notice how the OP dodged my questions....a typical non-response by those who have no clue....and remind us again about your 'rights'??-- There is NO right that says that just because you file some random papers another individual automatically gets a visa....now, since you are a self-styled expert on immigration law, and perhaps even constitutional law, why not post that 'right' on this site.....see if you can find it.....(hint: it's not under the bed pan)

S12, maybe if you tried to say things in a more caring way, some of your advice would be heard and taken in a bit better.

The OP or anyone else doesn't want to have abuse coming on here, they want advice or answers.
Sometimes you can give good points, but its the way you say it. Try to be a bit more diplomatic and someone might actually listen to you and see what you are trying to say.

The UK once did put a temporary ban on a lot of visa issuances from Nigeria for a year, mainly because there was too many entering the UK and it was increasing fast.
Not because of fraud, but because of the amount of immigrants.
I have read that 80% of Nigerians were turned down for visa's to the UK in the past for various of reasons, so yes it isn't easy for them to visit or immigrate to another country.

Instead of using the fraud story and bashing her, try to sympathise with her and give her your opinions is a decent manner.

She has done no wrong, so why take it out on her?

Bentonasia, please don't leave because of S12, in time you will see that he has issues, and its not to you personally.

Don't give up hope, many have fought a long while to be with the person they love or some are still trying.

Be cautious, but be happy

SPGirl07 - my main complaint with the OP is her arrogant attitude towards people who have vastly more experience in the immigration world than she does....after all, how would she feel if one of the consular officials showed up at her hospital one day and told her how to medicate a patient, or how to give an injection or take blood pressure..etc....she would not accept this free, unsoliticited, inexperienced advice...thus, she, a nurse, has no foundation to decide that the consular officials are 'bad' -- she's just PO'd because they didn't buy her story and that of her Nigerian fiancee....well...too bad...the consular officials are charged with that responsibility, not some random nurse from Podunk...the consular officials have had the training, the experience and I believe they and they alone have the authority, as bestowed upon them by Congress, to assess and adjudicate visa applications.....and they have rules that they have to abide by....they cannot, for example, send a fiancee petition back just because they are having a bad day....there is a screening process by their supervisors, then the petition goes back to DHS and then additional requests are made of the petitioner and beneficiary...those are the rules...and that's life.
This unfettered arrogance from the OP, just like that of those land-bound manatees chewing their size 18 cuds at immigrate2us.tons-o-fun, is tiresome to listen to...these cows think they know all the answers, they know all the laws (they don't by a looooooooong shot) and that they are smarter than anyone else in the pasture....but, they are nowhere near that smart, trained or experienced. And that is my main complaint. She wants to castigate the consular officials, well, she can expect some feedback..and she got it (and she doesn't like it nor can she refute a single word) and she'll likely get more if she wants to spar.

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Originally posted by Someone12:
SPGirl07 - my main complaint with the OP is her arrogant attitude towards people who have vastly more experience in the immigration world than she does....after all, how would she feel if one of the consular officials showed up at her hospital one day and told her how to medicate a patient, or how to give an injection or take blood pressure..etc....she would not accept this free, unsoliticited, inexperienced advice...thus, she, a nurse, has no foundation to decide that the consular officials are 'bad' -- she's just PO'd because they didn't buy her story and that of her Nigerian fiancee....well...too bad...the consular officials are charged with that responsibility, not some random nurse from Podunk...the consular officials have had the training, the experience and I believe they and they alone have the authority, as bestowed upon them by Congress, to assess and adjudicate visa applications.....and they have rules that they have to abide by....they cannot, for example, send a fiancee petition back just because they are having a bad day....there is a screening process by their supervisors, then the petition goes back to DHS and then additional requests are made of the petitioner and beneficiary...those are the rules...and that's life.
This unfettered arrogance from the OP, just like that of those land-bound manatees chewing their size 18 cuds at immigrate2us.tons-o-fun, is tiresome to listen to...these cows think they know all the answers, they know all the laws (they don't by a looooooooong shot) and that they are smarter than anyone else in the pasture....but, they are nowhere near that smart, trained or experienced. And that is my main complaint. She wants to castigate the consular officials, well, she can expect some feedback..and she got it (and she doesn't like it nor can she refute a single word) and she'll likely get more if she wants to spar.

You answered me! LOL

I see your point S12, but I also see hers.
And come on immigration officers don;t always keep to the rules or by the book, there have been many reported stories about how some deny just on the picture alone, or where they are from. There are bad eggs in the system, like any other agency.

Where I agree with the OP is why did they deny it based on not sufficient evidence, where clearly she gave more than most probably gives.
Both it seems are of good moral, her fiance is a law student, not some unemployed poor wanna a be looking for a sugar mamma lol

She has a right to know what is wrong and why. Maybe they haven't told her the real reason as to why it was denied, but she has a right to know.
Maybe they are limiting the amount of immigrants into the US from Nigeria, like they did in the UK, whatever the reason she needs to find out.

If you love someone S12 and want to be with them but can't surely you would do the same and do what you can to get those answers and try your best to make it right.

It isn't as if she just met him online and suddenly getting married without getting to know him first, why can't there be a possibility that this is genuine and her fiance is a decent honest man?
They are doing it legally S12..following the rules and process, I thought you were all for that?
There is nothing in the OP's statement that gives reason to think this is fraud, she is just wanting to know what else she can do.

There is always things she can do, look at the many stories on here that have success due to being persistent and proving their relationship is bona fide.

The OP is only retaliating because of the manner you responded...and she hasn't been the only one, so give her some slack.

There are bad officers and I am sure you are aware of it, and mistakes happen on a regular basis.

I think if your posts were written in a different manner, maybe you would have had a different response and points taken as being helpful rather than bashing.

Anyway..when someone loves someone so much and wants to be with them, having negative advice doesn't always get through, even when there are red flags.
IMO in this case as how I read it, doesn't show me there are any. At least he is educated and in a good business, so would provide a good service in the US..can't be bad can it.

There is one key element that the OP (and you, though through no fault of your own) has forgotten[or doesn't know]....a consular official, who is about to send a petition back, has to do a couple of key things...1) he/she has to document the reason(s) why they believe that the marriage(or future marriage) is solely for an immigration benefit - and what elements appear to be missing and [and by the way, the consular official normally does not, repeat, does not outline the deficiencies during the interview to the parties, since it would just cause arguments to ensue without any solution - the protocol is to ask questions, ask for evidence, weigh it and decide if it is sufficient...if it is, grant the visa, if it's not, send the petition back ](2) that officer's supervisor must review that decision AND AGREE before said petition is sent back....so, even if the first officer was 'bad', what about the supervisor? Is the OP so paranoid she believes there is some conspiracy? But wait...imagine for a moment, as best you can, that you are a consular official, who has been assigned to Nigeria for say, one year. During that time, you have interviewed somewhere around 10-15,000 visa applicants, and through a variety of feedback mechanisms, have discovered that the rate of fraud is somewhere around 97%....so, who makes the 3% cutoff? Very few. We don't know what was said by the Nigerian fiance when he was asked a lot of questions about this 'relationship' -- bogus, or memorized answers, will likely be discovered....now, after the supervisor reviews and agrees, a memo must be written to the Dept of Homeland Security, to the review panel, if you will, to guide that person when reviewing the petition....because, what happens next (admittedly, not quickly!) is that the petitioner and the beneficiary are sent a letter that asks certain questions, or requests additional evidence about the relationship...each party has a certain amount of time to respond ( maybe 60-90 days)...and after any new evidence is produced, a new decision will be rendered....now, if the two parties are able to comply with DHS's request, the petition is affirmed, returned to Nigeria, the fiance contacted and then there is a 99.999% chance he would get the visa (unless he came right out and said..."gee, I'm just marrying this cow for a green card" -- then, oops, back goes the petition...and who could blame anyone?)...if however, the two parties fail to comply, then the petition is denied and that's that....until the petitioner decides to file another one....and then, who knows?
Bottom line: there are several layers of protection built into the process....layers that the OP has no clue about....and Internet marriage scams abound....so no wonder the consular official may have been understandably skeptical....wouldn't you, if you had seen 95% of your cases as pure krap?
Just because the OP says everything is above board, doesn't mean anything....statistically, she is being scammed....and she'll discover that fact one day after her Nigerian husband gets his conditional status changed to permanent green card status....the divorce happens three minutes later, and he's off into the sunset....those are the sober, statistical facts...no, it's not a 100% certainty, merely 97%......