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"bigot"

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb


Okay, so since that doesn't apply to me can you post the definition of a person who is prejudice against ILLEGAL ALIENS?

Muchos gracias senor . . . . stupid


Uh, if that's in reference to me, and I am assuming it is because you quoted the definition that I posted as general piece of information for the ENTIRE board to read, yet you felt compelled to respond to it. Did you feel that this definition was directed at you? Why?
I did not name you.

Maybe you identified with the definition and went immediately on the defense.
Are you saying it is ok to hate illegal aliens?
Then YOU are a bigot, read above definition.

And btw, you also assumed that I am a seror, and not a senora...wrong again...
 
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Uh, if that's in reference to me, and I am assuming it is because you quoted the definition that I posted as general piece of information for the ENTIRE board to read, yet you felt compelled to respond to it. Did you feel that this definition was directed at you? Why?
I did not name you.




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The bigots are right, there is an invasion going on! I wonder if the babies of these invaders will be given automatic citizenship. I get sick when I hear them speaking their guttural French (at least some of them). Since they own their homes now, they'll probably overstay their visas. Just what we need, more invading illegals. When is this going to stop?...


http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/216250.php

Surging currency has Canadians snapping up Arizona homes
By Chris Kahn
The Associated Press

Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.14.2007

CHANDLER, Ariz. — Two hours after his flight landed in Phoenix, Calgary resident Doug Farley already was cruising the city's vast stuccoed suburbs in search of the one attraction Canadians can't seem to get enough of these days, cheap homes.

There are thousands of them here: almost new, unoccupied and dropping in value. The mortgage meltdown, combined with a surging Canadian currency, has Farley — and many of his countrymen — dreaming of winter golf on grass that's always green.

"My dollar's the same as your dollar, finally," Farley said, grinning as he peered through a pool fence at a sparsely populated condominium complex in Chandler, a Phoenix suburb.

For moderate-income Canadians like Farley, the race is on to take advantage of the "loonie," which in September reached parity with the U.S. dollar for the first time since 1976. Many are combing the Internet for anxious American home sellers and looking with an investor's eye at the condos they rented while on vacation in sunbelt states.

"Now it's more than just the snowbird coming down and staying in a condo. It's people looking for business opportunity," said Frank Nero, president of the Beacon Council, Miami-Dade County's economic development arm in south Florida.

Canadian condo-builder Solterra Group of Companies also is riding the surge in the Canadian economy as it plans to snatch large chunks of land in Las Vegas. Michael Bosa, the company's vice president for development and acquisition, said the loonie has bolstered his company's bids.

"We're looking now aggressively," Bosa said. "We think we'll see more opportunities in the next six to eight months."

In Arizona, Jason Sirockman of Edmonton, Alberta, said he watched as home owners flooded the market with 58,000 homes, more than twice the amount in 2005 when home values peaked.
Now's the time to buy, he said. Alberta, a three-and-a-half-hour flight from Phoenix, is experiencing a modern-day gold rush from booming work in its vast oil sands.

"Fifteen of my friends are on buying trips down here, and we're all cheap," Sirockman said. He brought his family to Scottsdale this month while he submitted a lowball all-cash offer for a three-bedroom home.

"I don't want to take advantage of a guy who's having trouble in the market and is losing his shorts," Sirockman said. "But I have no problem with a guy from California who bought on spec and has five houses in Arizona and never lived in them."

'Wow factor' for Canadians

Single family homes and condos in the Phoenix metro area now sit an average of 99 days before getting sold. That's three times the wait for homes and four times the wait for condos compared with two years ago, according to the Arizona Regional Multiple Listing Service.

The market has shifted totally in the buyer's favor, especially those offering cash, said Jeff Russell of Alberta. Last month, Russell snapped up a patio home next to a golf course in Scottsdale with a $299,000 check. It was listed at $463,000.

"I was actually going to come down here and buy a seven-series BMW because cars are ridiculously cheap here," he said. "But I discovered that, forget cars, houses are on deep discount. I could never get anything on a golf course as nice in Canada for this type of money."

Real estate agents in Phoenix, especially those with Canadian ties, are hustling to reach potential buyers up north while the American housing market and the U.S. dollar continue to slump.

Rick Morielli, a former real estate broker from Toronto, received his green card in November, posted a Canadian realty Web site, took out some newspaper ads in Canada, and already he has about a dozen clients looking for homes.
"There's a real 'Wow' factor here for Canadians," said Morielli, who now lives in Phoenix.

"When I take them to a brand new subdivision, and for $210,000 can get them four bedrooms, 2,000 square feet, all appliances, brand new, that's something they haven't been able to buy in Canada for 10 or 15 years. In my opinion, everyone should be buying now."
 
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OMG - I think I need to move to Arizona!!! No wonder the Canadians are having a field day down there - lol!


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I they don't mind living in that heat, go for it. As long as its legal, why not. But like many wide eyed wanna be investors they are in for a surprise.



Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
 
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"bigot"

Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: \ˈbi-gət\
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1660
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed \-gə-təd\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb


Okay, so since that doesn't apply to me can you post the definition of a person who is prejudice against ILLEGAL ALIENS?

Muchos gracias senor . . . . stupid


Uh, if that's in reference to me, and I am assuming it is because you quoted the definition that I posted as general piece of information for the ENTIRE board to read, yet you felt compelled to respond to it. Did you feel that this definition was directed at you? Why?
I did not name you.

Maybe you identified with the definition and went immediately on the defense.
Are you saying it is ok to hate illegal aliens?
Then YOU are a bigot, read above definition.

And btw, you also assumed that I am a seror, and not a senora...wrong again...


Why wouldn't any person of my intelligence make an obvious assumption? You've been stalking me and hanging on to my every word since you found my first post. FANGIRL . . .tt2

Awe knappy head it makes me sad to see that I have reduced you to a mere cheerleader . . . NOT tt2


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Hey Whknapp,
How are you my friend?? How's the weather where you are? We're supposed to get a winter storm blast here in midwest!
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I have been observing states and cities have ratched up their anti immigrant retoric and increased repressive legislation to make it difficult for undocumented folks to live. I've been reading recently about the "night of the broken glass" or "crystal nite" which led into more serious repression. I don't believe that could happen here, but the parallels are rather scarry.

Also the parallels to the conditions in some European countries where the state has been sufficiently repressive as to create an underclass that has finally exploded frighten me.

Let us all work to find ways to improve our country in ways that work with people rather than against them. I can't understand how we have become so insensitive to the lives of immigrant families.
 
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Chuck, its like this. The paramilitary, la raza, et al clan are what brought this about. We as a nation did not ask to be invaded by people who only wish to rape our country, not assimilate, force their culture, their life style, in our face. And then give us the middle finger to boot.

Haven't you seen any of those videos. Do you think those are staged or are so far outside the mainstream of their general attitude. Go take a trip through Los Angeles, San Ysidro, Chula Vista, San Diego, National City, El Cajon, La Mesa, and many many more. Don't tell me you can't tell where the illegals live versus anyone else. You can't tell the impact on the cities, the schools, the way of life.


They started this. Look at what an immigrant was when they came through Ellis Island. Compare that to what we get now. Not how they look, their attitude!!!!!!!!!!!

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Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
 
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Davdah chuck is not against illegal immigration.


Chuck


You make the statement that usa has become insensitive to the lives of immigrant families,

Whilst I am sure you mean insensitive to undocumented and illegals included. We know how you feel as you lump them all together as "immigrants".

America overal is not against immigrants. I believe the backlash is directed toward illegal overstays and especially undocumenteds
 
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I think a lot of us could tolerate some of the over stays and even some undoc'ed types. The problem is the unmitigated arrogance and intended subversion they carry that is steaming the national conscience. For a few of you folks who live far away from the front lines its hard to imagine. Even after seeing those videos its hard to believe. If you were here and saw it first hand your opinion would change. At least for those that still hold the naive belief of the pro ported good nature of the average border jumper.



Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
 
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Davdah chuck is not against illegal immigration.


Chuck


You make the statement that usa has become insensitive to the lives of immigrant families,

Whilst I am sure you mean insensitive to undocumented and illegals included. We know how you feel as you lump them all together as "immigrants".

America overal is not against immigrants. I believe the backlash is directed toward illegal overstays and especially undocumented

From the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act to the Gentlemans Agreement in 1907 the 1997 IIRCA, America has always had an love-hate relationship iwth immigration. Every immigrant group from the Irish to Eastern Europeans to Latin Americans to Asians have felt the bigoted attitude of nativism. History is repeating itself here when it comes to illegal immigration. And illegal and legal immigration are intertwined.
 
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Nativism has been around long before your wifes ancestors came over. Here is the deal. Neither the Chinese, the Irish, nor even the Poles showed up with the hostility these people have. Show me one parade of illegal Chinese in defiance. Show me the same of the Irish. Not including anything to do with drinking though.
The Poles don't know how to organize a parade so they get a pass on that one. But do you get the point?

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No.
 
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Why no. That nativism isn't new? That it is practiced in every country. Always has been. Or about the inherent hostility of la raza and its clan of followers and like minded drones?



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Nativism has been around long before your wifes ancestors came over. Here is the deal. Neither the Chinese, the Irish, nor even the Poles showed up with the hostility these people have. Show me one parade of illegal Chinese in defiance. Show me the same of the Irish. Not including anything to do with drinking though.
The Poles don't know how to organize a parade so they get a pass on that one. But do you get the point?

So has lust, debauchery, and greed. Just because it has been around still does not make it right, now does it.

As for the chinese, what do you think the Chinese Exclusion Act was about? Not to mention the other immigration bills that prevented immigrants from certain parts of the world because of a false premise that "they are here to harm us?" That same false premise in the past is the same false premise you are making toward Mexicans. History has not been learned so the same mistakes are being repeated.
 
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It doesn't matter if its right or not. You have never felt lust? I'm sure your wife would be dissapointed to hear that. You stuck your foot all the way in your mouth with that one (lol).



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Ha! ..So has stealing, cheating, lying and killing.
What kind of rationale is that..."been around a long time"????
Just because something's been around a long time, it doesn't make it right, or is the right thing irrelevent?
 
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So you agree that right and wrong which equate to legal and illegal do matter. And doing the wrong thing a long time doesn't make it right. Hmm, tennis shoe or sandal?

Nativism is nothing more than fear of change and there are no laws barring it.



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