Caps lock and admission of hammering, I mean chiseling at the keyboard. Just make sure its still under warranty. The strong back is still in error. I don't do manual labor. No explanation requested. Let it die as it is.

Small head, wrongo bucko. Twisting and whirling round and round. But your still in the same circle. They always end where they begin.

It isn't about getting even my dear. Getting even is mediocre. Truth is so much better.

I hope if that passage is visited there isn't the tell tale signs of 'This post edited' . That would be sad to see. Its not so much about criminal as it is about being humane. Have another bag of popcorn or what ever it is you use to fill that void.

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Originally posted by Rough Neighbor:
Now, very well, let's put things in proper perspective. It feels good to reap the harvest before it rains. You admitted to be talkative, so you're owning up to your own "frog" analogy - big mouth, no thought. Okay, I'm giving up the laurel on my cap that "I have pissed off a bigot today." Sorry, whknapp. But I'm keeping the strong back, small head analogy. That's my prerogative because that's the truth. I'm waiting for any evidence to the contrary, but I'm getting tired of waiting. Even accused me again of yelling when I used caps lock but, needless to say, that was a desperate attempt on my part to chisel the point through the maze of incoherent cerebral magma lest the logical premise of contention again go astray had I not objected. It was him who raised the issue of privilage... sorry, privilege, but of course he tried so hard as usual to twist my sentance... ehe! sentence to nitpick snippets of slip-ups on my part, which happen to be rare, and use or abuse them desperately to his advantage. Yeah, Mr. Utterly Strong Back was chuckling with clenched teeth and balled up fists in all of this. No, he didn't stutter and stammer, stumble and fall, in voicing out his frustration because he can't penetrate into my defenses. That's not anger, I know! Hence, in desperation, just tried to abuse my mode of management as I recounted before as if I were a criminal. Why? He's so bankrupt as to how to get even with me, so why not go a little personal and spin what I said so cleverly idiotic and end up as my handy source of amusement, consistently and without fail.

Dear Rough Neighbor:

Be my guest...

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Originally posted by davdah:
Caps lock and admission of hammering, I mean chiseling at the keyboard. Just make sure its still under warranty. The strong back is still in error. I don't do manual labor. No explanation requested. Let it die as it is.

Small head, wrongo bucko. Twisting and whirling round and round. But your still in the same circle. They always end where they begin.

It isn't about getting even my dear. Getting even is mediocre. Truth is so much better.

I hope if that passage is visited there isn't the tell tale signs of 'This post edited' . That would be sad to see. Its not so much about criminal as it is about being humane. Have another bag of popcorn or what ever it is you use to fill that void.

Woohoo! See? This is exactly what I meant, Tiger. Repetition of double-redundancy, and of cleverly idiotic spin upon spin, over and over again for days and days on end. Bottom line? Trying desperately to nitpick on snippets of futile reasons, but still zero point zero net value, yet thinks he's clever. Haha!

And your abuse of writing style gives away your own desperation. In case you didn't notice I was merely mocking it. Hard on the neurons isn't it?

So far you haven't given a single cons ice explanation concerning any of your accusations, not one. Nothing to verify your tiger implication for that matter. That really is lame (lol). Must be a cultural thing from the homeland. But it doesn't have much affect at being offensive here. If that was the intent. I guess it was. Instead of hinting at it just come out and say it. Or is that too direct for your taste.

Nothing to back up your idea of how to remove the criminal element in the illegal immigrant pool. As if they would follow any new rules. No, your idea is no better than the garbage that comes from any pro-illegal camp. Just a disguised method of giving away my country. It isn't going to happen. This is my country first and foremost. I can say I was here first and have the privilege and right to affect who comes here. Most of you and your supporters do not. That is something you can't just claim. Its earned my dear.

You did jump on one typo, intentional by the way. It was to see how desperate you would get to find fault. Apparently quite a bit. In the end what will matter is what the next president does. Although the Dems are pandering and hinting at CIR it is just an old political trick. You'll see soon enough. The hand ringing and crying come January will be astounding. You can respond if you wish by I will not. The truth of the matter is in that other post. That was what I was getting to all along.

Here we have arrived at the core of the immigration matter. The claims such as I have the privilage to choose who comes to this country because I was here first, is not an argument in my eyes and other Dems.
Why? Because its unconstitutional to award a privilage to one group of people over another.
The United States is based on the Constitution, on the basic laws of equality between not citizens, but between "persons".
Every person residing in this country whether in a documented or undocumented status, is a person and thus so is subjected to the laws of this country under Constitution and under God.

The problem with Republicans is that they overlook the Constitution (hello the recent war), and bestow privilages onto one class of people- the white privilaged one, dismissing the equality principle written by the Founding Fathers of this nation.

There is no bigger reward for those that have been here for generations, and for those that have just entered this country. There is no difference between the affluent, and the poor, the white and the black, straight or homosexual, women and men, American citizens and residents, etc. etc.
The United States is not an OLIGARCHY. It is a DEMOCRACY.

VOTING rights.

So now I'm the one who's desperate. Another spin, sorry, there's no other way to put it. You're the one who's desperately dodging and ducking on my "mischievous" jabs, my friend. For you to think otherwise is cheating even yourself. And your response is no way to be viewed as cool, Tiger.

And you're so, so predictable, do you know that? I know that the question on my nationality will be raised by one heap of a desperate imbecile like you. Just to rehash. I was born here, of parents in the service, I left when I was eight, raised and educated in the Philippines, maintained ties regularly thru the years, settled down for good to work. Tell me, with self-respect that you have if at all, and with your self-imposed royalty, that I'm less American than you are!

I admit that I was intentionally repeating your typos. (Oh, by the way, typos just happen from time to time and are not supposed to be repeated the next time around. Yours happen regularly like the rising and setting of the sun). In case you haven't noticed, that's my way to smack you on the face for being so territorial like a mermaid in a far-off kingdom in a yonder sea. That, hey, your territorial "my country" claim and your thoughts and your deeds pathetically don't add up.

Moreover, show me please, in the history of America since 1776 that the air-tight isolation of this great country that you are dreaming about has ever taken place. I have bad news for you. The last sliver of hope that your "hate and fear" allies in the media and in the campaign trail are holding on, that of muddling the Clinton-Obama contest, to boost Clinton's chances, with Republican's filty help, she being the more preferred opponent for McCain, would just backfire. Ooops! Nice attempt but it just showed your sad desperation. It would come short and would work to just spice up Obama's momentum some more. But I don't blame you. Adherents of "old politics" and "business as usual" like you need to pull others within grasp on your way to the thrash. You're the one who's in for a big surprise, Tiger. And please mark my words. Haha!

What about voting rights?
We're been talking about human rights, not about the right to choose representatives.

To enlighten you: an undocumented person in this country is equal to the citizen in the eyes of the law under Constitution of the United States.
This is one undeniable FACT.

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Town still divided three months after deportation of high schooler

The Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 03.05.2008

ROSWELL, N.M. — Karina Acosta's senior year at Roswell High came to an abrupt end after she was ticketed for blocking a fire lane outside a school and driving without a license.

The officer who stopped her — a Roswell policeman assigned to the school — asked her for proof of legal U.S. residency. Acosta, an illegal immigrant, had none. The officer telephoned immigration authorities, and Acosta, 18 and pregnant, was sent back to Mexico.

The episode has caused a furor in town, with teachers and others complaining that Acosta's treatment violated the spirit, if not the letter, of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that has all but made the nation's public schools havens for illegal immigrants.

"The school was considered a place you could come and not have to worry," said Coreta Justus, a teacher at 1,300-student Roswell High.

Complaining of racism and unfair treatment, students demonstrated on Main Street and drew adult counterprotesters. Irate parents confronted school officials. The police officer was taken off the school beat, and the program that put him on the high school campus was suspended.

Three months later, Acosta's case is still dividing people in Roswell, a town 200 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border that has built a tourism industry around a rumored UFO crash in 1947 that was supposedly covered up by the government. Roswell (pop. 45,000) is at least 44 percent Hispanic.

Officer Charlie Corn reported that he spotted Acosta blocking a fire lane in late November while she was dropping off a youngster at a middle school. Corn, who was on traffic duty at the school, followed Acosta to the high school nearby, discovered she had no license and ticketed her.

He gave her several days to produce proof of legal residency, after which he called her into his campus office and contacted immigration authorities. They immediately took her to a juvenile detention center, and she agreed to be sent back to the Mexican state of Chihuahua rather than fight deportation.

A 1982 Supreme Court ruling guarantees children who are in the United States illegally the right to a public education, and says schools cannot inquire about their immigration status. Federal authorities have a policy of not enforcing immigration laws on school grounds.
But the question of whether police may do so is murkier.

Marisol Perez of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund said Corn's actions were "certainly questionable and problematic." She said the case was "just as egregious" as that of three students who were arrested at an Albuquerque high school in 2004 on immigration charges. The students sued the police, who later settled.

Jennifer Moore, who teaches international, human rights and refugee law at the University of New Mexico, said making students vulnerable to deportation at school is "making a mockery" of their right to public education.

And it is occurring "in the very place where they have the greatest chance at getting the skills they need to participate in this society that they are living in," she said.

Roswell's interim police chief, Scott Douglass, defended Corn, saying that the 10-year veteran was investigating a crime. But the chief said that in the future, "enforcement action like that would probably be taken after school hours and off of campus."

Assistant School Superintendent Mike Kakuska told parents immediately after the incident that the school system didn't support the officer's actions. But others in Roswell resent the influx of Mexicans who are in the United States illegally. They complain the newcomers are using resources without paying enough in taxes.

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Whknapp, I think now finally I have.

So you finally succeeded, RN... Congrats!

ASU scholarships for illegal immigrants being revived

Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 03.06.2008

PHOENIX — Private donors are trying to revive a controversial scholarship that benefited Arizona State University students who are in the country illegally.

The special scholarship's funding ran out for the 2008-09 school year but ASU officials say they're working with a third-party group to provide scholarship money.

ASU President Michael Crow said it's his hope that enough money will be available to cover the estimated 200 to 300 students who have to pay higher, out-of-state tuition as a result of changes in state law.

University officials are advising those students to go ahead and register for fall courses.

A fund called the American Dream Fund Coalition has been set up and is being maintained by the nonprofit group Chicanos Por La Causa.
Crow estimates the cost at about $3 million a year, adding that the money will come from private sources and not state funding.

For the past year, 207 undocumented immigrants who graduated from Arizona high schools have received private scholarship money through the ASU Foundation.

The scholarships started after the voter-approved Proposition 300 took effect in late 2006 — requiring illegal immigrants to pay out-of-state tuition at the state's universities and community colleges.

Out-of-state tuition and fees are about $17,000 a year at ASU while the in-state amount is nearly $5,000.
The law also prevents illegal immigrants from receiving state scholarships.

ASU officials have maintained the scholarship is legal because they use private money and not state money.
Some of the special-class international students are from China and other countries and lack proof of citizenship or legal residency but "are really great students," Crow said.

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