He can probably get out of any hot water if there is any. There was a similar case on here a while back. Since your bud un-did the damage once he realized what happened and did not vote there shouldn't be any consequences. But, he should definitely get a lawyer since he has shown a propensity for making mistakes on paper work.
The question is clear. 'Have you ever registered to vote?'
The correct answer is yes since it didn't specify how or if you un-registered or if you voted or not. But an explanation needs to be given which is why he needs to see a lawyer.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
Posts: 8970 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007
Engaging in acts of fraud or willful misrepresentation of fact in order to gain entry to the U.S. is grounds for deportation.Examples of this kind of conduct include entering into a marriage solely for the purpose of obtaining an immigrant visa, having papers "fixed" in order to gain entry into the U.S., and misrepresenting your marital status on immigration applications.Falsely claiming U.S. citizenship is also an example of willful misrepresentation that can be grounds for deportation.Examples of false claims to citizenship are registering to vote in Federal, State or local elections (where citizenship is a requirement) or using a false U.S. passport.
This is not to discount the advice from other members here; just to let you know that retaining a reputable immigration lawyer would probably be in the best interest for your friend.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Engaging in acts of fraud or willful misrepresentation of fact in order to gain entry to the U.S. is grounds for deportation.Examples of this kind of conduct include entering into a marriage solely for the purpose of obtaining an immigrant visa, having papers "fixed" in order to gain entry into the U.S., and misrepresenting your marital status on immigration applications.Falsely claiming U.S. citizenship is also an example of willful misrepresentation that can be grounds for deportation.Examples of false claims to citizenship are registering to vote in Federal, State or local elections (where citizenship is a requirement) or using a false U.S. passport.
This is not to discount the advice from other members here; just to let you know that retaining a reputable immigration lawyer would probably be in the best interest for your friend.
Proud are you joking? These words really look great in books of law but in reality we all know they are hardly ever used, and if used based on discretion of the adjudictor.
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He will probably need one. USCIS will only look at the fact he registered to vote. In their eyes that shows a desire to break the law and vote.
The lawyer will be needed to explain the details which should get him off. The fact he made the effort to un-do the deed shortly after the fact will go a long way to getting the approval.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
Posts: 8970 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007
That is the point that will be argued. Was it willful or not. The lawyer should be able to show that he was doing what he thought he was supposed to. Realized the error afterwards and corrected it. A corrected mistake.
The fact a gov employee handed him the form isn't relevant one way or the other. The important issue is did he vote? Did he stay registered? No on both counts. So it should go away. Technically him being registered counts as a false representation of citizenship. Which is why he needs a lawyer.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
Posts: 8970 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007
Originally posted by crybaby: it says "willful misrepresentation"..
actually on my friends case, his sole purpose of going to dmv was just to apply for drivers license.. he was only 4 weeks in the US, he just arrived that time..
as mentioned, he presented his passport and greencard to obtain that drivers license.. and yet, he was asked by the gov employee to register to vote.. then he thought, he is eligible to register because of the fact that the govt employee asked him to register.. he signed the form.. he did not go to dmv, and shouted out there "hey i am a usc, i want to register to vote!!" if he was not asked by the gov employee or if he was not offered by the gov employee to register, he would not... in the first place, he does not even know that time that registration for voting can take place at a dmv...
does this mean "willfull misrepresentaion?" how do you prove willful misrepresentation?
it is a mistake that he signed the form, but he does not have intentions of messing up with the law.. he is a guy with good moral character..
Did your friend win the DMV lottery or for some other reason that he could not read english at the time?
Voter registration forms used clearly ask if you are a usa citizen. He would have to have answered yes knowingly unless he can prove that he couldnot read or understand english.. It sounds like he thought that this was the only way he was going to be able to get his drivers license, so he registered to vote.
his application form is far different from that of what "4now" sent.. his apllication form does not have a box to check if usc or not.. his application has only statements.. he was just asked to sign.. his name and other information where already fed, all my friend did was to sign and date it..
i dont know, im not sure if he overlooked the statements that says "i affirm that i am a usc" or maybe he just trusted the gov employee who offered him to register.. that he is eligible..
Listen and beleive every contradicting opinion on this board !!! Don't ever consult or hire an immigration attorney , even the best you can find out there !!! It is better to save few hundred bucks and get yourself deported than spend some of that hard earned money of yours and get its' worth of advice !!! Remember!!! No attorneys !!! Listen and believe every word anyone may say !!!
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Originally posted by Sabuntium: Listen and beleive every contradicting opinion on this board !!! Don't ever consult or hire an immigration attorney , even the best you can find out there !!! It is better to save few hundred bucks and get yourself deported than spend some of that hard earned money of yours and get its' worth of advice !!! Remember!!! No attorneys !!! Listen and believe every word anyone may say !!!
i said, my friend and i needs opinions on the matter.. we are not here to be annoyed.. you are so annoying...
Originally posted by Sabuntium: Listen and beleive every contradicting opinion on this board !!! Don't ever consult or hire an immigration attorney , even the best you can find out there !!! It is better to save few hundred bucks and get yourself deported than spend some of that hard earned money of yours and get its' worth of advice !!! Remember!!! No attorneys !!! Listen and believe every word anyone may say !!!
i said, my friend and i needs opinions on the matter.. we are not here to be annoyed.. you are so annoying...
Sure,it's about "your friend"... all you fraudsters tend to speak on behalf of your "friends", isn't it so!!!
Now go cry your behind off. Your "friend" is a toast !!!
Adios!!!
Have all the good s.ex you can, in all the ways you can, for as long as ever you can !
-- Sabuntium The Great
Posts: 928 | Location: Originally from: Galaxy of Centaurus A (also known as NGC 5128) | Registered: 06-26-2008
It sounds like your friend should be ok. It was a mistake and he realized it and had himself removed from the voter registration. I can't see why the USCIS would go after him. Like the others say, he would be well advised to get an opinion from a good immigration lawyer. Those giving opinions on here, including myself, are lay-lawyers.
As for Sabuntium (Sanitorium) he's one of ILWs regular pain-in-the-you-know-where's on here. Just ignore him. There should be a sign on his cage saying "please don't feed the animals"
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It sounds like your friend should be ok. It was a mistake and he realized it and had himself removed from the voter registration. I can't see why the USCIS would go after him. Like the others say, he would be well advised to get an opinion from a good immigration lawyer. Those giving opinions on here, including myself, are lay-lawyers.
As for Sabuntium (Sanitorium) he's one of ILWs regular pain-in-the-you-know-where's on here. Just ignore him. There should be a sign on his cage saying "please don't feed the animals"
thanks "brit"..
yes, as for my friend, it is really an honest mistake with no malicious intent on his part.. but what is he concerned about is that, if uscis will look at it that way..
yes, we are looking for a reputable and competent lawyer in our area...
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Originally posted by a9b3h5: Another fake post. But here is the reality. Your so-called friend is a TOAST.
It is crime to register to vote while you are not USC. Doesn't matter if he voted or not.
Even if he lies on N400, USCIS has access to database and they will validate it. If he lies, he is even more screwed.
Buy one way ticket.
I had no idea of registering to vote being a crime,I did not being assertive at the time and registred but never voted all I had to do was writing to voters registration office and explaining my situation then asking to be removed from their lists, took about a week to get a letter from them telling that they had removed me from their records,wich I then sent to uscis. did get my citizenship so do not be worry,just be honest and you'll always find a way.
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