You can talk about the reasons for why there are so much homeless and who to blame for it for weeks or even months but still won't know the facts.

You would have to experience it yourself or meet the many homeless yourself to find out the many reasons for it.

I was homeless with a child, ended up in a shelter, was there for sometime, met many many other homeless for one reason or another, quite remarkable stories.

When things got better for me again, I decided to volunteer and work in homeless shelters, serve food, and do whatever I could as these places don't run themselves and really rely on volunteers. Without volunteers and churches, seriously there would be a lot more homeless than this is now, and a lot more bodies laying dead somewhere.

A lot of these people are just like you and me, and it is a shame that they found themselves in this situation.

I don't know enough about this country and the politics to give comment on who is to blame and what can be done to solve this problem, but I did feel and still do, that this country does not do enough for its people. When times are hard, there isn't enough help to give them that step up again.
How I see it is, you have to work so hard to get anything in this country, so if you have a bad time, health issue, or anything that can put you out for a while, there isn't enough assistance.

I remember back in England I would complain about this and that, complain about high taxes, things were expensive to buy, all the usual things that us Brits complain about in England.

Now having been here, and seeing how tougher it is to have somewhat of a comfortable life, you know just getting by like, it has made me realise how somewhere like UK do look after its people a lot more.
There are homeless in UK of course, but mostly it is their choice. There are so many facilities to help a homeless person back on their feet, benefits, and even housing.
Somehow there is a lot more help, and is it mainly government run or partial run, or at least government financially helping out.
In past years funding has also come from the National Lottery.

Here I do not see that. There are some but for all the people who I have met, not only here in my State but in other States too, there isn't that help or a lack of it.
They struggle and all they need is a step up to get back on their feet.

Hawaii of all places have a lot more homeless there too now. Some beaches have got tents all over it, they have no where else to go.

There is another group of homeless that I have not see mentioned as of yet.
Immigrants. I am talking of legal immigrants.

Someone like me for example.

I will be homeless myself very soon, unless someone takes me into their home.
Shelters can't help me out this time, son too old unless I queue up to sleep at Salvation Army.
Can I get help? No.
Due to immigration law, and that affidavit, I am not entitled to housing, not entitled to any benefits, so where does that leave me?
Until a divorce is final and or if there are any assets or anything at end of divorce, I will be one of those many people homeless.
There are many immigrants that are and have been in same situation as me, and there is no help for them even if it was available by government.

Thank God I say for Churches and charities, they are the ones that are trying to help the people of this country and trying to keep people from starving and trying to keep them from sleeping under bridges etc.

People outside this country think the USA is a rich country, living in 'Dallas' size houses, live in areas like 90210, and have a happy go lucky life.

Oh how they are wrong.

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I will be homeless myself very soon, unless someone takes me into their home.

No you won't!! I have plenty of room for you and your son - as long as you have nothing against Virginia - lol! You guys are more than welcome!!!!

hmm i think sprint will be charge with a felony over there

and jake aswell lol

Oh Thanks Proud! I sure appreciate it

Moving area let alone State right now would be a problem until divorce is finalized (1 yr on and still not any further than day one)

(But you might find 2 Brits and a dog at your door one day lol)

I am sure someone would take us in from our church temporary until something can be sorted out. (hoping)

I just wanted to give another example, that there were many others like me who would find themselves in that situation, unless someone helped them, whether church, charity or a kind neighbor/friend.

Sometimes there is help, but some of those people are not allowed to get it.

Divorces sure do play a huge factor too as why there are more homeless.

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Originally posted by mike_2007:
hmm i think sprint will be charge with a felony over there

LMAO Mike!!! Me no.....I have never done that before

Strange laws in VA lmao

lol yeah yeah well iam sure u will be but its ok it's just between us lol

Sprint, if you are in trouble and need a helping hand, you can PM me at any time, ok?

((((( hug for Sprint ))))))

Hang in there!

she doesn't need you bcoz you'r a double face

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Originally posted by Sprint_girl07:

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Originally posted by mike_2007:
hmm i think sprint will be charge with a felony over there

LMAO Mike!!! Me no.....I have never done that before

Strange laws in VA lmao

LMAO!!! Based on some of the stupid laws here, there are many felons in Virginia - lol!!!!!

lol sprint will be charge with a feloney and CM will be hanged lol

lol - I consider myself lucky I haven't been caught yet!

lol lol thats true , but watch out u may someday lol

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Now having been here, and seeing how tougher it is to have somewhat of a comfortable life, you know just getting by like, it has made me realise how somewhere like UK do look after its people a lot more.
There are homeless in UK of course, but mostly it is their choice. There are so many facilities to help a homeless person back on their feet, benefits, and even housing.
Somehow there is a lot more help, and is it mainly government run or partial run, or at least government financially helping out.
In past years funding has also come from the National Lottery.

Here I do not see that. There are some but for all the people who I have met, not only here in my State but in other States too, there isn't that help or a lack of it.
They struggle and all they need is a step up to get back on their feet.

Hawaii of all places have a lot more homeless there too now. Some beaches have got tents all over it, they have no where else to go.

There is another group of homeless that I have not see mentioned as of yet.
Immigrants. I am talking of legal immigrants.

Someone like me for example.

I will be homeless myself very soon, unless someone takes me into their home.
Shelters can't help me out this time, son too old unless I queue up to sleep at Salvation Army.
Can I get help? No.
Due to immigration law, and that affidavit, I am not entitled to housing, not entitled to any benefits, so where does that leave me?
Until a divorce is final and or if there are any assets or anything at end of divorce, I will be one of those many people homeless.
There are many immigrants that are and have been in same situation as me, and there is no help for them even if it was available by government.

Sprint:

Thanks for bringing the UK aspect to this discusssion. Very interesting. and certainly something the usa should look at to see if would be useful here.

Iperson has offered you a hug and "im only a step away if you want to talk" . This is so typical of Democrat socialist mentality. When what you need is "Help me get a house and food for my family" kind of help that Proud has offered you.

I use this as an example, becuase this is exactly what has been happening in america. You know first hand, and as you state are again just a step away from homelessness. Im sure you will agree that you are not just looking to get into some shelter again. You are looking for help to get back on your feet so that you can take care of matters for yourself! and this is what so many of the programs are lacking out there for the homeless, and near homeless. You do not have family here and therefore nobody to fall back onto. fortunately you have your health and sound mind which are important key factors.


The legal immigrants were included with usa citizens sprint. I saw no need to list them seperate. they have the same rights to programs that americans do. they have been sponsered, so that anything that is not available to them falls back on to the sponser. This is why there is a sponser.

i dont know your story but you have a greencard correct ? and that should make you eligible for section 8 housing list and other programs. You are not eligible for TANF cash assistance., but so are not a lot of americans. so please lay me out some circumstances that differ from the american and I will add that to the list as a category that needs a remedy.

I would be interested in some of those uk websites if you know of any.

Thank you IP and 4now for your comments, I do appreciate I really do.

I am not writing all this to seek sympathy or anything like that, I just felt it was necessary to anyone who doesn't understand how difficult it is for someone who is being threatened with homeless or is homeless and can't get that step up to get back on their feet again.

Before I moved here, I thought I knew about people being homeless here and the reasons for it, but it really opened up my eyes and my ears once I experienced it myself and having lots of contact with hundreds of others and seeing it first hand.

Some people are in shelters for a long time, because they were on waiting lists for housing (with child) or there simply was not the help to have them move out of the shelter for one reason or another. One lady I met was there for over a year with her child. The shelter was the only home her young child knew. She worked part time but she just didn't have enough money to rent somewhere and she was told her housing (sec 8 I think it was) was in the pipeline but she waited for a long time before that came along.

4now, I am not entitled to Sec 8 or any kind of housing. The only housing I could get if it was 100% charity run. There is one in my area, and I asked them, but they said I did not qualify to have housing with them.
This seems to be the norm too with other charity run housing in other counties too.
One...I am not divorced yet. You have to be divorced or widowed.
Two..I only have one child...minimum 2 children is required.
Three...there is a long waiting list until one becomes available.

Because of the 5 yr rule and because I do not have a USC child (as you can get benefits through the USC child) there is nothing I am entitled to. I have begged, cried, pleaded for help, but they have all said..I am sorry your husband is responsible and you are not entitled to any help. They don't care whether we are on the streets or not or have no food, they tell me to call churches for help.
Churches and charities can only help out a limited amount, food parcels for example you can only go either twice or 4 times a year. Some of that food you will find out of date, or even stale. Beggers cannot be choosers though right?

This is not just for people in my situation, it is for all people who doesn't have enough to get by, and there are limited resources and a lot of people in that situation, their health deteriates because of malnutrition. There is also the depression and anxiety that sets in due to stress.


Yes you are right, the sponsor (my husband) is responsible. But who is going to force him to do what is right?
He is doing what probably any other angry vindictive spouse does...making our marital home go into foreclosure so to ruin the equity that we had in it and make us homeless as soon as possible. That equity would have helped me move and at least try and get on my feet by myself. That is why the judge ordered it to be sold, to give my share of the equity quickly. Now it's too late. House is up for sale, but foreclosure has already started.

In a divorce many know that it takes so long to get hearings and things moving in court.
By the time it can be sorted out, there will be financial ruin, homeless and many other things.

I met homeless men and women who have gone through the same, it could have been different if the justice system was quicker. Wait too long and you could lose everything.

I will find some links for you 4now about housing and facilities to help people back on their feet in a bit.

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Yes you are right, the sponsor (my husband) is responsible. But who is going to force him to do what is right?
He is doing what probably any other angry vindictive spouse does...making our marital home go into foreclosure so to ruin the equity that we had in it and make us homeless as soon as possible. That equity would have helped me move and at least try and get on my feet by myself. That is why the judge ordered it to be sold, to give my share of the equity quickly. Now it's too late. House is up for sale, but foreclosure has already started.

Hey Sprint,

I will pray that the house sells before the foreclosure thing is finalized. The foreclosure doesn't make sense for either one of you. I also hope that your ex will at some point in his life grow a conscience. I don't understand his type of mentality. Just plain cruel.

I will tell you a story what happened to me back in England when I nearly found myself homeless but got the help.

I had a good job, I was sharing a large house with a few others then I fell pregnant. I was told I couldn't stay in the house anymore as baby was coming along so I was looking for somewhere alone.
Unfortunately I ended up in hospital when I was 3 months pregnant with multiple blood clots (embolisms) and ended up staying in hospital for most of my pregnancy. Someone had to move my things out of my house as I could no longer pay the rent. During my stay in hospital someone came to see me and helped me find accomadation for when I left.
I was put on a waiting list for housing, but in the meantime I was entitled to find somewhere of my own, and the government would pay upto a certain amount.
I did find an apartment, very nice one at that.
I had somewhere to go when I left hospital, the rent was paid for. Of course it is only paid for until I could pay for it myself or they pay part if income is low.
This is a step up to getting back on ones feet.
One year later a house did come up, was not through the council but with a Housing Association. A brand new house that was just finished being built, in a new neighborhood.
I moved in and rent was reasonable. If I earned too much then I would pay full rent, if I earned low income, I would pay part rent.
This house was also rent to buy, so it gave me the option to buy this house when I could afford it.
This is very popular in England, and it gives that step up to people who find themselves in a bad situation, whether it is they lost their house they once owned, ill health, or just simply couldn't afford a mortgage from banks.

Most people put themselves on a list and get points every year or depending on their situation/needs. Some people put themselves on the list once they are 18 or so.

My friends daughter put herself on the list, she was having trouble at home, 6 months later she got an apartment with low rent which she could afford.

A friend of mine a year ago lost her house because of husband losing job, she worked part time because of children.
4 months in they had a 4 bedroom house (housing association), rent to buy. Now he is working again, some of the money is going towards buying it. They know that even if have money trouble again, they won't be losing that house.

For emergencies, you can get into a bed and breakfast (one room in house) until another type of housing is available or until you can afford to rent your own place.
There are so many facilities to help out those in need and in emergency, even if just temporary.
All these people need is a helping hand, a step up to keep them from being on the streets and to help them make things better again in their lives.

I am not saying England is a far better country or anything like that, but I do feel that maybe England does look after their citizens better in a crisis.
The US spend how much on war? I think their people should be priority don't you think?

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Originally posted by ProudUSC:

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Yes you are right, the sponsor (my husband) is responsible. But who is going to force him to do what is right?
He is doing what probably any other angry vindictive spouse does...making our marital home go into foreclosure so to ruin the equity that we had in it and make us homeless as soon as possible. That equity would have helped me move and at least try and get on my feet by myself. That is why the judge ordered it to be sold, to give my share of the equity quickly. Now it's too late. House is up for sale, but foreclosure has already started.

Hey Sprint,

I will pray that the house sells before the foreclosure thing is finalized. The foreclosure doesn't make sense for either one of you. I also hope that your ex will at some point in his life grow a conscience. I don't understand his type of mentality. Just plain cruel.

Actually Proud selling the house doesn't do anything for me either. He has lost the equity in it as he hasn't paid the mortgage for so long and all the interest, court costs, legal fees on top. The longer I am in the house, at least I do have a roof over my head. Whichever can take longer, would be better for me.