To answer some questions: 1) No I don't know for sure if he is an American citizen or LPR. Again, how can you obtain a social security number if you are NOT legal to be here?
2) I have not read the charges. I have found them on line in Arizona and am debating whether or not to request a copy of them. Yes, he did have a drivers license.
3) Again it is from assaulting a cop. It does not matter that the cop through the first punch. What matters is that he is from Mexico.
4) I did talk briefly with an attorney and he said that it did not matter that he had the social security number, he did not have a work permit to be here.
5) Sun Devil. Thanks for your FACTUAL comments about race and what he is. I am glad that you are more familiar with him than I am. I am surpised that I didn't come running to you for an answer before I posted it!!
Race comments are all around here. I would have respected you if you did not use the race comment yourself.
It must be nice to think that you are superior because supposedly you are an American citizen.
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Once issued a social security number you always have it, even after you die that number is yours. I'm not sure he is an American citizen. Was this his first offense? It seems severe, but assaulting a police officer is worse than assaulting a civilian. You should find an immigration attorney, call or go talk to more than one to see what options they suggest.
bigdummy, social security number is valid untill you live. Once you die, the death body will be examin by the Docter, who can declare that a person has died. will isse his report, he will take to the county office to register the death, so the county can isse a Death Certifictate to the next of kins at the same time they will inform the social security office with the copy of death certificate, issued by county, and at the same time they will also inform the county office where he was born. Their used to be more claims for the benefits in past. Now it has been 0%
Jenne: He is an illegal alien. That's about as far from being an American citizen as it's possible to get.
I resent your assertion that "it does not matter that the cop through (the correct spelling is threw) the first punch. What matters is that he is from Mexico."
When you start throwing the "race card" around, you will get no respect here.
The only thing that matters is that he is a worthless drunk illegal alien with a violent streak. He most likely didn't have a driver license, as illegals can't get them in Arizona, and was driving drunk. He then hit a cop.
He has no chance of ever being allowed to legally enter America. If he decides to come illegally, he will be sent to prison for many years when he is caught.
America - and those of us in Arizona - are happy to be rid of him.
I guess that the issue in the original post was replaced by "to answer some questions". I just read this and thought I'd missed a thread. Was someone immediately deported for being caught driving under the influence and punching a police man?
Sun Devil,America needs more people that address the problem of illegals like you do. You are right our forefathers that wrote the Constitution were NOT immigrants, but instead were legal to be here.
What matters here is that you are allowed your opinion. I asked for FACTUAL information. Not your freaking opinion of what he is or isn't.
Thanks, I see the race card played here all of the time. You are not the expert, so until then, I don't want to hear from you. I don't think that you are capable of giving an answer that isn't biased towards hating immigrants.
Jenne
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Are you sure the person was a USC? I am no expert but in order for him to be deported they would first have to take back his US citizenship, if he was naturalized which is a extremely difficult process to under take and of course would be very timely. Secondly, he or she would have to hold dual citizenship, meaning they would have to have Mexican citizenship also in order for them to be deported Mexico. Any way go to the link below, you get to ask immigration attorney question for free at this site, they r the expert (allexpert.com)
marmaduk Member Posted February 14, 2006 07:15 AM With that type of charges, I seriously doubt the I-601 waiver will be approved. Posts: 1538 | Registered: January 05, 2004
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Jenne: With all due respect, you didn't even know the nationality of the criminal when you first posted your question here. Initially, you claimed that he was an American citizen...or, maybe a permanent resident. Everything was fine with his world, though, because he had a FAKE social security card.
You have subsequently dramatically edited your original post, so it doesn't even resemble the original.
You assert that the writers of the Constitution "were NOT immigrants, but instead were legal to be here." Quite apart from the fact that this makes no sense at all, I'm not sure what the writers of America's Constitution have in common with an illegal alien criminal. Your criminal friend was never legally in America.
Your attempt to play the race card was pathetic. He was arrested because he is a criminal, not because he is Mexican. He was deported because he is a criminal illegal alien, not because he is Mexican.
Jenne, with all due respect, you really know little about immigration matters. You don't even know if this boyfriend of yours is USC, LPR or illegals, while the folks here deduct it pretty quickly.
Why are you complaining when its your boyfriend that broke the law and paying the consequences? Assaulting a police officer is a felony. A crime that can make even LPR deported.
With all due respect in return. Police officers are human, they make mistakes. You read it in the paper or see it in the news all of the time. A police man can shoot or intimidate people and it is okay? Because they are a police officer on a pedastal, not to be touched by the nearest human being.
What I am merely offering is this. If you look like you are an immigrant (or Mexican) in this case and the police do not like you to begin with. Who is going to believe you?
He got 6 police cars on him for a flat tire? Come on that is rediculous. But, hey if it that is normal in Phoenix, than it is normal.
I am not saying that he didn't drink. Everyone is trying to tell me that I am saying it is okay what he did. It isn't. If you break a law than you need to take care of it. I don't care who you are.
In this particular forum. People are going to be more judgemental one way or another. You like illegals or you don't.
For me not to know what his official status is NOT the CRIME. You need to get off of that band wagon.
The original question has seemingly been forgotton due to the lack of knoweldgeable people on this forum, who have nothing better to do than insult each other. I can not say that I am any better.
What ticks me off, is that if was us that was illegal what would your view then be?
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Why are we focusing on a non-issue? The point is that if he was legal or not really doesn't matter, because now he has lost that legal privilege.
You need to consult an immigration attorney familiar with deportation and waivers to see if there is an iota of a possibility that he could return to the US at some point in the future. If not, then you can decide if you wish to join him in his country.
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Jenne, how can you say there's no knowledgeable people in this forum, when you give misleading information about your boyfriend status to begin with? First you said he was USC, in which even Someone12 cast his doubt that a USC can be deported. Then you equate him having SS# as being a LPR or USC before finally admitting that you really don't know his status. To make thing worse, you edit your original post so people lost track what you're trying to say. With these kind of circumstances, its easy to see why we got confused.
Noone is saying the cops is always right. But probability sides with them. Especially if there're 6 of them at the same time. They won't call in 6 units unless the officer perceive trouble. You said yourself he was drunk and cited with DUI, isn't it also possible that he was truly drunk and assaulted the officer first? How can he tell? What was his BAL? There's always 2 side of the story.
Noone accused you of any crime just because you didn't know his legal status. But it does makes it difficult to answer your question, which is why you're complaining right now.
But getting back to the topic, like sappyconifer said, it'll be very hard for him to try to come back to this country legally. For one thing, he'll have a ban on him. Filing a waiver to overcome that ban requires a US parties who's greatly affected by him not being the US. In the event such party exist, the felony charges on his record will make it almost impossible to push a waiver through. A compentent immigration lawyer is his best bet, but I'm pessimistic about his chances.
somebody buy Jenne a box of Kleenex so she can mop up her tears! Sheesh....this is tiresome...."my boyfriend is such a wonderful person...yaddy yaddy yaddy"...and how it's everyone else's fault....the police, the judge, the jury, the INS...space aliens, flouridated water...whatever....bottom line he was found guilty, shipped home....adios....who cares? Your first posting was so full of holes why should we believe whatever else you post? Send all illegals and criminal aliens back to whatever kraphole they came from and good riddance. When was the last time an illegal alien, with a phony social security card, who had punched out a cop, found the cure for cancer or made any significant contribution to the American society? (hint: never).... In order to apply for (not get) a waiver, he has to first marry a village idiot (a prerequisite)...so, if you qualify, by all means, marry this criminal and ask for a waiver....I just hope the Dept of Homeland Security sees thru the BS and declines approval of same, since we don't need to import violent criminals.
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