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Originally posted by davdah:
OBL admitted to it. Does it get any better than that? We have convicted several people who also participated. All of which were underlings of OBL. The recent executions in indonesia for the Bali bombings were also connected to the same organization. It all points back to the same source. By trial they were convicted here and abroad. No where was it ever mentioned except in the underground paranoid propaganda machine that GWB had anything to do with it.
Where has OBL ever taken credit for 911??? You cannot use the FAKE tape that they use a bad , really bad actor ... You didnt really buy that ffake video... now did you Davdah?
OBL has denied credit for 911 not once , twice, but three times.
September 16, 2001
DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands.
In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.
"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.
September 28, 2001
Bin Laden says in an interview, "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States (see September 16, 2001). As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of battle.... The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology can survive. They may be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups capable of causing large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who have been annoyed with President Bush ever since the Florida elections and who want to avenge him.... Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from Congress and the government every year.... They needed an enemy.... Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked who carried out the attacks." [Daily Ummat (Karachi), 9/28/2001]
Now Davdah, you can state the that you dont believe him, but why are you giving GWB anymore credibility when it is proven that he has lied and manipulated and has not offered any proof for the accusations.
Furthermore..., the only people seeming to accept or believe this is the american people themselves.. surely the government seems to not believe it by their actions and rhetoric... Take a read below...June 6, 2006: FBI Spokesman Says ˜No Hard Evidence' Connects Bin Laden to 9/11 When asked why Osama bin Laden's wanted poster only mentions his alleged involvement in the East African embassy bombings, but not 9/11, Rex Tomb of the FBI's public affairs unit says, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden
August 28, 2006: Bin Laden Still Not Indicted for 9/11 The Washington Post notes that Osama bin Laden has still not been indicted for his alleged role in 9/11 and that his entry in the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list only mentions his involvement in the 1998 African embassy bombings. The FBI says the reason bin Laden is not officially wanted for 9/11 or the bombing of the USS Cole is that he has not yet been charged with involvement in the operations by the US. Bin Laden's entry on a separate list, of the 25 most wanted terrorists, also fails to mention his alleged involvement in 9/11. According to the Post, "The curious omission underscores the Justice Department's decision, so far, to not seek formal criminal charges against bin Laden" for 9/11.
the US allows Saudi royals and members of the bin Laden family to fly out of the US after only cursory FBI checks (see September 13, 2001 and September 14-19, 2001).
Bush's January 2002 State of the Union speech describes Iraq as part of an "axis of evil" and
fails to mention bin Laden at all. On March 8, 2002, Bush still vows: "We're going to find him." [Washington Post, 10/1/2002] Yet, only a few days later on March 13, Bush says, "He's a person who's now been marginalized.... I just don't spend that much time on him.... I truly am not that concerned about him." Instead, Bush is "deeply concerned about Iraq." [US President, 3/18/2002] The rhetoric shift is complete when Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Richard Myers states on April 6, "The goal has never been to get bin Laden." [Evans, Novak, Hunt & Shields, 4/6/2002] In October 2002, the Washington Post notes that since March 2002, Bush has avoided mentioning bin Laden's name, even when asked about him directly. Bush sometimes uses questions about bin Laden to talk about Saddam Hussein instead. In late 2001, nearly two-thirds of Americans say the war on terrorism could not be called a success without bin Laden's death or capture. That number falls to 44 percent in a March 2002 poll, and the question has since been dropped. [Washington Post, 10/1/2002] Charles Heyman, editor of Jane's World Armies, later points out: "There appears to be a real disconnect" between the US military's conquest of Afghanistan and "the earlier rhetoric of President Bush, which had focused on getting bin Laden." [Christian Science Monitor, 3/4/2002
On September 24, 2001, the US freezes the bank accounts of a number of people and businesses allegedly linked to al-Qaeda (see September 24, 2001).
However, no accounts at the Al-Shamal Islamic Bank in Sudan are frozen, despite a 1996 State Department report that bin Laden co-founded the bank and capitalized it with $50 million
neither the bin Laden family nor the Saudi royal family have publicly denounced bin Laden since 911
Expalin this one
The US tightens immigration restrictions for 18 countries. All males over age 16 coming to the US from Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Eritrea, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, or Yemen must register with the US government and be photographed and fingerprinted at their local INS office. [Washington Post, 11/7/2002; Newsday, 11/23/2002]
Two countries not included are: Pakistan (the home country of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and many other al-Qaeda members) and Saudi Arabia (the home country of bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers). After criticism that they were not included, these two countries are added to the list on December 13, 2002.
In early 2005, the recently retired Executive Director of the CIA will explicitly state that it is better to let bin Laden remain free
This author hits it right on the head...january 2003
Famous spy novelist John le Carré, in an essay entitled, "The United States of America Has Gone Mad," says "The reaction to 9/11 is beyond anything Osama bin Laden could have hoped for in his nastiest dreams. As in McCarthy times, the freedoms that have made America the envy of the world are being systematically eroded." He also comments, "How Bush and his junta succeeded in deflecting America's anger from bin Laden to Saddam Hussein is one of the great public relations conjuring tricks of history."
And I could go on and on with examples without even mentioning all the times OBL was in sights or reach and the orders were given to not pursue. Oh except for this one time.... http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=osama_bin_laden&startpos=500US Central Command watches as a Predator drone captures images of a very tall man being greeted by a small group of people. It is quickly agreed the tall man could be Osama bin Laden, who is known to be tall. Within minutes, approval is given to launch a Hellfire missile from the Predator. By this time, the tall man has broken off from the group with two others.
The missile hones in on him and kills him and his two companions. Journalists later report that the men were villagers who had been scavenging in the woods for scrap metal.
OOps.. sorry it wasnt him 
Do you call this civilized actions from a so called civilized nation? Tell that to the poor civilian family that lost their father/husband/brother. You Betcha.
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