So that woman always speaks the truth, unbiassed, completely objective? Come on now!

FoR ThOsE ReGaRdEd aS WaRrIoRs, WhEn eNgAgEd iN CoMbAt tHe vAnQuIsHiNg oF ThInE EnEmY CaN Be tHe wArRiOr's oNlY CoNcErN. sUpPrEsS AlL HuMaN EmOtIoN AnD CoMpAsSiOn. KiLl wHoEvEr sTaNdS In tHy wAy, EvEn iF ThAt bE LoRd gOd, Or bUdDhA HiMsElF. tHiS TrUtH LiEs aT ThE HeArT Of tHe aRt oF CoMbAt.

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Originally posted by Houston:
I trust Arianna Huffington as much as I trust those horse dewormer paste applicators. Easy application, on yourself that is, you end up that that krap all over you no matter what gimmick you try! A rip off!

I hate to ask. But what does horse dewormer have to do with Huffington? Where do you put the paste? Should I ask?, LOL

The point I was trying to make is that I don't think A.H. is all that trustworthy, I think of her as biassed on most issues.

It's like asking Keith Olbermann or Bill O'Relly to be objective, waste of time.

Here's a little slideshow I made of Obama's election victory

Yes we can!

Most in the media are biased one way or the other. That is how they maintain their ratings. In her case she achieved her positions through marriage based appointments and or contacts. Goes for her wealth too.

I have a question. If anyone can explain this.

Exactly how is increasing the taxes on those creating jobs going to stimulate the economy? If you decrease it for those working class types what good will it do when they may not have a job?

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Originally posted by davdah:
I have a question. If anyone can explain this.

Exactly how is increasing the taxes on those creating jobs going to stimulate the economy? If you decrease it for those working class types what good will it do when they may not have a job?

The way things are going, they might not have a job before Obama reaches office! Thanks Bush

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Originally posted by iperson:
I fully agree with Davdah.
Those conspiracy theories are hoax, and everything can be explained if you take the time to consider each argument carefully and take it apart, and support it with facts and circumstances. You cannot confuse speculation with factual evidence and let paranoia be the final thesis.

First of all, it does not make sense that American people, however evil the current administration had been, would have devised such an evil attack against its own people.
Arianna Huffington writes in "The Right is Wrong", and it is supported by a witness account, that president Bush few hours after the attacks on 9/11 asked his close advisers if this attack could open up the way to the Iraq war. Which was planned before Bush had been elected to the office by neocons like Wolfowitz. The administration started working on the war propaganda on 9/11, but they were not involved in the attack itself.
The argument that US government had planned the attacks is weak and doesn't hold water. The US didn't need to make such a strong case for the war with Iraq, or any case for that matter. Hussein as an evil emperor could have sufficed. And second, 9/11 as a link to Iraq was weak from the beginning.
Moreover, if you are so interested in circumstances behind the attack, you should examine historical and cultural background behind Bin Laden, and US relationship with Saudi Arabia and the Bin Laden clan. It would be helpful if you read the book "Bin Ladens" (google it).
Such claims including one that Bin Laden couldn't have accomplished such a feat on his own is quite ignorant.

Sorry guys.been too busy but i havent forgotten ya


You guys are letting "conspiracy theory or hoax" rule your comments and thinking. Btw iperson your link was just yet another blogger speaking about huffington post founder.. not 911. Or Just because GWB asked if they could somehow get iraq? I asked you to both to prove to me that OBL and muslim terrorists planned the attack according to the usa government.... so far you three that have commented and the usa government have yet to do so.

911 incident has only served to be an excuse to invade iraq and to impliment more legislation to take away more usa citizens freedoms. (patriot act) Less freedoms.. earliest in the name of DRUGS Now in the Name of TERROR... ILLEGAL SEIZURE of property and monies at its finest.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn61PJQGCUo


Former CIA official Milt Bearden talks about Bin Ladens non-existent involvement in 911 and how the CIA trained Usama Bin Laden. I would like to add that everything stated in this video by Mr.Bearden has now been admitted by the white house and here are some quotes to confirm that claim;

"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming." "”**** Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/200 6/03/20060329-2.html


"9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11." "”FBI agent Rex Tomb, June 6, 2006

"The goal has never been to get Bin Laden." "”General Richard Myers, chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff

And to read what Bin Laden himself said concerning 911 one week after 911 go to CNN's official site



Hmmm Is it not stadard procedure as Davdah says for the terrorist to take credit for their deeds? Where is it other than the fake tapes that government used. There have been nothing but Lies, lies and more lies from GWB and surrounding staff and government. There is no credibility there at all to believe them.


I mean come on you three.. You have lost the focus of the true topic. Once you have not embraced the explanation that was given to you, then and only then will you start looking for the truth that you may never find. The most important aspect is that you will no longer be believing the lie. I know how tough this concept is.. as I can only imagine how painful it must have been for you when the 2 people that you trusted the most in your lives had to one day explain to you that Santa Claus was not real and that it was just a lie. Same with the tooth *****. another blow. The very same parents that taught you not to lie. The awful hurt of how you had this blind trust to be so gulliable. It is pretty much the same things. You are not kids now. Open your eyes. repeat after me There is no tooth *****, there is no Santa Clause, there is not a bin laden story as it was being sold for 911.

I don't believe in 911 conspiracies and the such, but it wouldn't surprise me none from a bunch of wanna-be toughies who ain't got enough sand left to actually stand up and face the people who pay them honest wages!

Pickup truck cowboys and crazy shots, what a nice group...

The most important thing is to not let the "conspiracy theory" have you deliberately disregard stated facts and truth. You can make your own theory, but facts cannot be denied. This has always been about Daddy Bush, and his dynasty



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4eHvD-BrE


George Bush Sr. and bin Laden Sr. are long-standing business partners. George Bush Sr. and the bin Laden family are on the board of the Carlyle Group, a large defense contractor. The bin Laden family financed George Bush Jr.'s early failed businesses. From their generous contributions, even though the companies failed, George was still able to live high on the hog. According to the book Fortunate Son bin Laden money, invested via James Bath, enabled George Dubya to get hooked on cocaine. He was busted in 1972 but got off with community service at Project P.U.L.L. - a project for troubled youth. In 1995, his father arranged to have the record purged and his son to get a new drivers' license number. James R. Bath, friend and neighbor of George W. Bush, was used as a cash funnel from Osama bin Laden's rich father, Sheikh bin Laden, to set George W. Bush up in business, according to reputable sources from the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

The connection between GW Bush, the bin Laden family, and the Bank Commerce Credit International (BCCI) is well documented. The Bush dynasty has closer links to the bin Ladens than just about anyone else. George Bush Jr. arranged for the bin Laden family to escape the USA by private jet when everyone else was still under lockdown. The bin Laden family were asked no questions. Pakistan's Secret Police (ISI), which has close ties to the CIA, secretly airlifted several thousand members of Al Qaeda, and, perhaps Osama, out of Afghanistan to safety shortly after 9/11. If it were you or me with this many links to the alleged perpetrators of 9/11, we'd be rotting in Guantánamo Bay's Camp Delta in shackles and chains. If it were Clinton, he'd be lynched. But because it is BUSH, people pretend not to notice. I think before too much more money is wasted chasing phantom terrorists, it would be wise to interrogate Bush under oath to find out just what he knows. He seems to be on intimate terms with the reputed perpetrators.

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I am not into hollywood fantasy.. I try only to work with reality and fact findings. What does anyone know for real about this secret organization. I know that they are drug dealers that sell drugs for funding... and so do you



Again from Hollywood. Show me the testimony from a credible source that proves that. It doesn't exist.

Does Iran/Contra ring a bell? Oh you forgot..

Oopa.. Daddy Bush just keeps ****ing up in the mix.. Where there is oil or drugs, you will find him in the mix.

Drugs are easy money and Biiiiiiiiig money.. Why do you think the war on drugs is a standing joke. How much money does usa spend on "war on drugs"? Columbia, mexico, CA Yet they keep coming in and being produced. Ever wonder why?


We could ask Gary Webb about his investigation back in the day, but ah we cant because he is dead.. A suicide from 2 bullets in his head. a suicide.

ok davdah

got your non hollywood real life reporting..

what say you my dear Wastson?

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Originally posted by iperson:

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Originally posted by 4now:

George Bush Sr. and bin Laden Sr. are long-standing business partners. George Bush Sr. and the bin Laden family are on the board of the Carlyle Group, a large defense contractor. The bin Laden family financed George Bush Jr.'s early failed businesses. From their generous contributions, even though the companies failed, George was still able to live high on the hog. According to the book Fortunate Son bin Laden money, invested via James Bath, enabled George Dubya to get hooked on cocaine. He was busted in 1972 but got off with community service at Project P.U.L.L. - a project for troubled youth. In 1995, his father arranged to have the record purged and his son to get a new drivers' license number. James R. Bath, friend and neighbor of George W. Bush, was used as a cash funnel from Osama bin Laden's rich father, Sheikh bin Laden, to set George W. Bush up in business, according to reputable sources from the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.

The connection between GW Bush, the bin Laden family, and the Bank Commerce Credit International (BCCI) is well documented. The Bush dynasty has closer links to the bin Ladens than just about anyone else. George Bush Jr. arranged for the bin Laden family to escape the USA by private jet when everyone else was still under lockdown. The bin Laden family were asked no questions. Pakistan's Secret Police (ISI), which has close ties to the CIA, secretly airlifted several thousand members of Al Qaeda, and, perhaps Osama, out of Afghanistan to safety shortly after 9/11. If it were you or me with this many links to the alleged perpetrators of 9/11, we'd be rotting in Guantánamo Bay's Camp Delta in shackles and chains. If it were Clinton, he'd be lynched. But because it is BUSH, people pretend not to notice. I think before too much more money is wasted chasing phantom terrorists, it would be wise to interrogate Bush under oath to find out just what he knows. He seems to be on intimate terms with the reputed perpetrators.

That's a good piece of historical background for this story. In a way Bush is responsible for angering OBL, but not directly responsible for the attack. The Jews cannot be responsible for angering Hilter, in the same logic.

How is Bush (which one btw) responsible for angering Bin Laden? He doesnt appear to be to upset with him or his family now does he?

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Originally posted by 4now:
ok davdah

got your non hollywood real life reporting..

what say you my dear Wastson?

Iran Contra has what to do with this? You should look a little closer and be more descriptive concerning what 'on board' means. Although your trying to give the appearance they both show up to work in the same place like Obama and Ayers used to. The same doesn't apply.

Lets not abbreviate and leave things to imagination. Disclose all the facts along with supporting documentation. Lets keep innuendo and conjecture out.

The DOW fell another 450 points today. We're about to see the 7000s for the first time in many years. Thanks Congress. A wonderful job.

Thanks Bush and Co!

GO SOCIALISM....DOWN WITH CAPITALISM....Hey I am happy because now I can jump in and make some money. Oh sh.it. that CAPITAL GAIN TAX is going to tax me to death

A cowboy runnin' an empty ranch.... You see weird stuff every day, but this is too much!

Dudes shouldn't wear a cowboy hat, take it off dude, please!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1563773/Georg...ed-of-horses%27.html

A ten year old can punch 10 head by himself, oh, but hold on, you kinda need a horse to do that! lmao....

What a JOKE!

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Originally posted by davdah:

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Originally posted by 4now:
ok davdah

got your non hollywood real life reporting..

what say you my dear Wastson?

Iran Contra has what to do with this? You should look a little closer and be more descriptive concerning what 'on board' means. Although your trying to give the appearance they both show up to work in the same place like Obama and Ayers used to. The same doesn't apply.

Lets not abbreviate and leave things to imagination. Disclose all the facts along with supporting documentation. Lets keep innuendo and conjecture out.

How about this for starters.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking

Iran Contra Affair

Main article: CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US

Released on April 13, 1989, the Kerry Committee report concluded that members of the U.S. State Department "who provided support for the Contras were involved in drug trafficking...and elements of the Contras themselves knowingly received financial and material assistance from drug traffickers."

In 1996 Gary Webb wrote a series of articles published in the San Jose Mercury News, which investigated Nicaraguans linked to the CIA-backed Contras who had allegedly smuggled cocaine into the U.S. which was then distributed as crack cocaine into Los Angeles and funneled profits to the Contras. According to Webb, the CIA was aware of the cocaine transactions and the large shipments of drugs into the U.S. by the Contra personnel and directly aided drug dealers to raise money for the Contras.

In 1996 CIA Director John M. Deutch went to Los Angeles to refute the allegations raised by the Gary Webb articles, and was famously confronted by former LAPD officer Michael Ruppert, who said he had witnessed it occurring. [7]


Venezuelan National Guard Affair
In November 1993, Judge Robert C. Bonner, the former head of the DEA, appeared on 60 Minutes and alleged that the CIA had permitted literally a ton of cocaine to enter the United States.[8]

The New York Times reported:

" The CIA - over the objections of the Drug Enforcement Administration, a branch of the Justice Department - approved the shipment of at least one ton of nearly pure cocaine to Miami International Airport as a way of gathering information about the Colombian drug cartels. But the cocaine ended up on the street because of "poor judgment and management on the part of several CIA officers," the intelligence agency said.[9]
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gee. what a surprise


In November 1996 a Miami jury indicted former Venezuelan anti-narcotics chief and CIA asset, General Ramon Guillen Davila, who "led a CIA counter-narcotics program that put a ton of cocaine on U.S. streets in 1990."


Reading list
Cockburn, Alexander St. Clair, Jeffrey (1999). White-out: CIA, Drugs and the Press. Verso



CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US

Former CIA agent David MacMichael explained the inherent relationship between CIA activity in Latin America and drug trafficking: "Once you set up a covert operation to supply arms and money, it's very difficult to separate it from the kind of people who are involved in other forms of trade, and especially drugs. There is a limited number of planes, pilots and landing strips. By developing a system for supply of the Contras, the US built a road for drug supply into the US."[5]


[edit] FBI probe
In April 1986, Associated Press reported on an FBI probe into Contra cocaine trafficking. According to the report, "Twelve American, Nicaraguan and Cuban-American rebel backers interviewed by The Associated Press said they had been questioned over the past several months [about contra cocaine trafficking] by the FBI. The interviews, some covering several days, were conducted in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Colorado and California, the Contra backers said." Several of the backers told AP of firsthand knowledge of cocaine trafficking.[6]


[edit] Reagan Administration admits Contra-cocaine connections
On April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three page report acknowledging that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985, arguing that these connections occurred at a time when the rebels were "particularly hard pressed for financial support" because U.S. aid had been cut off. The report admitted that "We have evidence of a limited number of incidents in which known drug traffickers have tried to establish connections with Nicaraguan resistance groups." The report tried to downplay the drug activity, claiming that it took place "without the authorization of resistance leaders."[7]