4now, please don't tell me you are buying into that BS story that the 9-11 attack was not what it was. Those buildings did collapse because of the two jets that hit them. Flown by islamo terrorists. There was thousands of gallons of jet fuel set ablaze which burns hot enough to weaken the steel beams. That is what caused the caving in. Ask a builder. It isn't so fantastic. Even looking at it from a common sense perspective. The second building went down before the first one hit. Why was that? It was hit much lower. With more of the buildings weight on the lower beams it tool less heating to cause them to bend and give way.
This is insanity that you or anyone would question that. Its bad enough that fat pig whats his name made that ridiculous self serving movie. But to give it any credibility is simply un-American to say the least. You try to implicate a sitting president in a murderous conspiracy and at the same time cheer someone who did support terrorists in the past. Who wants to install socialism. Who is more than likely a member of the same religion that seeks our demise.
We were attacked by fanatic Islamic fundamentalist. Plain and simple. They are still out to kill all of us. They are responsible for 99% of all terrorism world wide. You want to give them a pass?
What is wrong with you people. Have you all drank the kool-aid?
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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U guys are mean, u shouldnt hate any religion. Yes, some Muslims are horrible hateful people, but the the public dislikes Islam because only a very few are using it for terrorism. If you look at the facts, other religions have used terror by the sword to promote religion, so you know, u can't hate them either.
To say that Americans hate Muslims is injust. Yes, people should hate those who cause terrorists attacks, and i do to. But when u say that EVERY muslim is bad and u hate them all, that shows that you are ignorant, and not the Muslims.
Every religion is a way of life, and u should never hate or discourage one that is not ur own.
America is built on culture and freedom, and to hate a race or a group of individuals goes against what we stand for.
Tara, are you aware of the islamo leadership teachings? Where do you think the desire and will to carry out those bombings comes from? Isn't it odd that none of the muslim leaders denounced 9-11. A few scholars located in our country was about it. None of which carry any authority. The ones who actually dictate the religions direction were silent while most of their underlings were whooping it up at our demise.
There are many muslims who, like your average Catholic, are mediocre practitioners. In other words they are only muslim by name. The hard core believers, like your average door to door bible thumper, are the ones following the letter of the islam law.
Which would you rather get a visit from? The Jehovah on a bicycle. Or mohammed with TNT strapped to his belt? A way of life that hates us and we can do without. A way of life that treats women as if nothing more than a pet. If you're raped you get whipped and thrown in jail for provoking it. That is what happens in saudi arabia to rape victims. You still want to defend that?
America was built on a culture that is being destroyed. What we see today is not the same material that created the greatness that was once this country. Today we have people looking for a handout. Yesteryear, people wanted an opportunity to make it for themselves. The freedom you speak of is being sold off for a supposed free medical card. For each benefit you receive you forgo another freedom. OhNoBama is offering a plate full of entitlements. In the past these would have been taken as an insult to a person's dignity.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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davdah, Why a Jew can grow his beard in order to practice his faith? But when a Muslim does the same, he is an extremist and terrorist!
Why a nun can be covered from head to toe in order to devote herself to God? But when a Muslim does the same she is oppressed.
When a western woman stays at home to look after her house and kids is respected because of sacrificing herself and doing well for the household? But when a Muslim woman does so by her will, they say, "She needs to be liberated!"
Any girl can go to university wearing what she wills and have her rights and freedom? But when a Muslim wears a scarf they prevent her from entering her university!
When a child dedicates himself to a subject he has potential. But when he dedicates himself to Islam he is hopeless!
When a Christian or a Jew kills someone religion is not mentioned. But when a Muslim is charged with a crime, it is Islam that goes on trial!
When someone sacrifices himself to keep others alive, he is noble and all respect him. But when a Palestinian does that to save his son from being killed, his brother's arm being broken, his mother being raped, his home being destroyed, and his mosque being violated – He gets the title of terrorist! Why? Because he is a Muslim!
When there is trouble we accept any solution? If the solution lies in Islam, we refuse to take a look at it.
When someone drives a perfect car in a bad way no one blames the car. But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner – people say, "Islam is the reason" not all muslims are the same davdah .good night
Originally posted by davdah: 4now, please don't tell me you are buying into that BS story that the 9-11 attack was not what it was. Those buildings did collapse because of the two jets that hit them. Flown by islamo terrorists. There was thousands of gallons of jet fuel set ablaze which burns hot enough to weaken the steel beams. That is what caused the caving in. Ask a builder. It isn't so fantastic. Even looking at it from a common sense perspective. The second building went down before the first one hit. Why was that? It was hit much lower. With more of the buildings weight on the lower beams it tool less heating to cause them to bend and give way.
Even if that were true, and no other steel buildings have ever fallen like those due to fire... What is your credible and reasonable explanation for TOWER 7 ? Where is the video of the pentagon invisible plane? Where is the proof that this was planned by Muslims , particularly OBL? Where is OBL and why is he not important to GWB anymore? Why are you so willing to approch it so blinded and biased ? Patriotism? Patriotism will not alter the truth .
What is is is. Investigate responsibly and unbiased and make a determination of what is logical.
This is insanity that you or anyone would question that. Its bad enough that fat pig whats his name made that ridiculous self serving movie. But to give it any credibility is simply un-American to say the least. You try to implicate a sitting president in a murderous conspiracy and at the same time cheer someone who did support terrorists in the past. Who wants to install socialism. Who is more than likely a member of the same religion that seeks our demise.
Davdah.. It is not unamerican to question what does not make logical sense. That was a typical pyschology tactic used by GWB to quelch inquiring minds from not questining what is logical or wrong. I know an implosion when I see one. From Day one til now I have not seen any evidence to convince me that it was anything different. More evidence has continued to surface to support that things are not as they have been spinned. We are dealing with known liars and drug dealers.. and spin doctors. (CIA) Who can you trust
We were attacked by fanatic Islamic fundamentalist. Plain and simple. They are still out to kill all of us. They are responsible for 99% of all terrorism world wide. You want to give them a pass?
What is wrong with you people. Have you all drank the kool-aid?
Again.. I ask.. Where is the credible proof ? Refute these discrepancies if you can. I have an open mind. Convince me if you can that my thinking is out of line.
Even if that were true, and no other steel buildings have ever fallen like those due to fire... What is your credible and reasonable explanation for TOWER 7 ? Where is the video of the pentagon invisible plane? Where is the proof that this was planned by Muslims , particularly OBL? Where is OBL and why is he not important to GWB anymore? Why are you so willing to approch it so blinded and biased ? Patriotism? Patriotism will not alter the truth .
Accelerators. Which help to increase the temperature and ferocity of a blaze. Lots of jet fuel will do that. And the fact no other building has been hit with a jet like that. They took tower 7 down with them. It was underneith the other two.
Have you been there? Have you seen the proximity of the buildings to each other. Is it so hard to grasp the idea that a much taller building falling down might take out the much shorter ones next to it? Very probable. Happens even in planned demolitions when it isn't intended.
It is un-American to point a finger of terrorism at our CIA or president. I won't even discuss that point as it is beyond disgusting to even suggest it. They did it, I saw it, as well as millions of others that saw it. Good enough.
The pentagon hit was a hoax? Lets see. There was aircraft engines and parts scattered everywhere.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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Even if that were true, and no other steel buildings have ever fallen like those due to fire... What is your credible and reasonable explanation for TOWER 7 ? Where is the video of the pentagon invisible plane? Where is the proof that this was planned by Muslims , particularly OBL? Where is OBL and why is he not important to GWB anymore? Why are you so willing to approch it so blinded and biased ? Patriotism? Patriotism will not alter the truth .
Accelerators. Which help to increase the temperature and ferocity of a blaze. Lots of jet fuel will do that. And the fact no other building has been hit with a jet like that. They took tower 7 down with them. It was underneith the other two.
Have you been there? Have you seen the proximity of the buildings to each other. Is it so hard to grasp the idea that a much taller building falling down might take out the much shorter ones next to it? Very probable. Happens even in planned demolitions when it isn't intended.
It is un-American to point a finger of terrorism at our CIA or president. I won't even discuss that point as it is beyond disgusting to even suggest it. They did it, I saw it, as well as millions of others that saw it. Good enough.
The pentagon hit was a hoax? Lets see. There was aircraft engines and parts scattered everywhere.
Actually I felt The ground Shake And saw the fire of The pentagon. As I Was Leaving D.C. Entering Arlington that Day!!! on 395. Or Shirley highway As The old days. Jet Fuel Was A significant Accelerant!!!! I Am Ashamed In One Aspect That Usa Trusted and opened Up To Those Of Deceit and Fraud! Wanted To Be The Place For All Freedom, Open Arms and Inviting!!!! Hopefully USA and Those In Control Have Realized That Many Have Alternative Motives!!!! And Because Those Of Ill Intention Only USE USA, Hopefully Have Become More Diligent In Recognizing Those That Wish To Destroy The The Land Of FREE! Including Immigrants That Come Not To Live The American Dream, Yet Come To Steal It!!!!! How IRONIC That AGAIN They Have Worked Diligently For Years To Only Enter A Place Of Their Own Creation That Is No Better Than Thee Original Place Dreamnt Of Escaping In The First Place!!!!
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USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!! kami ay nanonood!!!
Originally posted by davdah: 4now, please don't tell me you are buying into that BS story that the 9-11 attack was not what it was. Those buildings did collapse because of the two jets that hit them. Flown by islamo terrorists. There was thousands of gallons of jet fuel set ablaze which burns hot enough to weaken the steel beams. That is what caused the caving in. Ask a builder. It isn't so fantastic. Even looking at it from a common sense perspective. The second building went down before the first one hit. Why was that? It was hit much lower. With more of the buildings weight on the lower beams it tool less heating to cause them to bend and give way.
Even if that were true, and no other steel buildings have ever fallen like those due to fire... What is your credible and reasonable explanation for TOWER 7 ? Where is the video of the pentagon invisible plane? Where is the proof that this was planned by Muslims , particularly OBL? Where is OBL and why is he not important to GWB anymore? Why are you so willing to approch it so blinded and biased ? Patriotism? Patriotism will not alter the truth .
What is is is. Investigate responsibly and unbiased and make a determination of what is logical.
This is insanity that you or anyone would question that. Its bad enough that fat pig whats his name made that ridiculous self serving movie. But to give it any credibility is simply un-American to say the least. You try to implicate a sitting president in a murderous conspiracy and at the same time cheer someone who did support terrorists in the past. Who wants to install socialism. Who is more than likely a member of the same religion that seeks our demise.
Davdah.. It is not unamerican to question what does not make logical sense. That was a typical pyschology tactic used by GWB to quelch inquiring minds from not questining what is logical or wrong. I know an implosion when I see one. From Day one til now I have not seen any evidence to convince me that it was anything different. More evidence has continued to surface to support that things are not as they have been spinned. We are dealing with known liars and drug dealers.. and spin doctors. (CIA) Who can you trust
We were attacked by fanatic Islamic fundamentalist. Plain and simple. They are still out to kill all of us. They are responsible for 99% of all terrorism world wide. You want to give them a pass?
What is wrong with you people. Have you all drank the kool-aid?
Again.. I ask.. Where is the credible proof ? Refute these discrepancies if you can. I have an open mind. Convince me if you can that my thinking is out of line.
I assure you that Koolaid is not my thing Davdah whether it was Jim Jones flavour or anyone else
Having Some Engineering background and Knowledge of the construction of the twin towers. Davdah is correct. the centers of both building were special and unique in Design. The The super Heated Jet Fuel Melted The Main Center Structure. The Weight of The Levels Above Caused an Accordian Like Reaction Was the "Force" Of The Upper Floors Falling That Brought down The Buildings. The Terrorist New Of Construction and Demolition.
USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!! kami ay nanonood!!!
Those buildings were built like an insect. With an exoskeleton. The main supports were around the perimeter. Normally a good idea except when it comes to fires. When a fire seeks oxygen the flames have a tendency to be drawn towards the outside through open or broken windows. That puts the flames in direct contact with the supports of the building. In a brick or stone structure it has little affect. With steal it will lose temper and soften.
So now the conspiracy theory will go that those buildings were built that way for the sole purpose of 9-11. How retarded can we get.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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Even if that were true, and no other steel buildings have ever fallen like those due to fire... What is your credible and reasonable explanation for TOWER 7 ? Where is the video of the pentagon invisible plane? Where is the proof that this was planned by Muslims , particularly OBL? Where is OBL and why is he not important to GWB anymore? Why are you so willing to approch it so blinded and biased ? Patriotism? Patriotism will not alter the truth .
Accelerators. Which help to increase the temperature and ferocity of a blaze. Lots of jet fuel will do that. And the fact no other building has been hit with a jet like that. They took tower 7 down with them. It was underneith the other two. Have you been there? Have you seen the proximity of the buildings to each other. Is it so hard to grasp the idea that a much taller building falling down might take out the much shorter ones next to it? Very probable. Happens even in planned demolitions when it isn't intended.
Yes Davdah, I have been there. So ah.. Building 5... Why did it not freefall ?
Open your eyes Davdah and stop closing your mind.....all in the name of Patriotism!
It is un-American to point a finger of terrorism at our CIA or president. I won't even discuss that point as it is beyond disgusting to even suggest it. They did it, I saw it, as well as millions of others that saw it. Good enough.
Not acceptable!!!! It is Un-american to accept a lie no matter where it comes from. It is your duty to investigate truth and question what does not make sense or logic. Only the truth will set one free.
The pentagon hit was a hoax? Lets see. There was aircraft engines and parts scattered everywhere.
Yes,, but what kind of aircraft. Most likely not the one alledged. Where is the video of the plane actually hitting the Pentagon? Huh ..What...? Right...Ah The teaches of George Bush. Where or Where was the intercepting planes deployed . Come on man
Open your mind and stop being deceived just on say so. Open your thoughts until your mind is satisfied with truth. Remember,... it has to make sense.
Look at the people involved and their characters.... Cheyney, rumsfield, Bush, Daddy bush, Tony Blair... OBL, Al Quaeda, Silverstein.. What we have here is a CIA Producer and director and some bad actors with a failing script, a great publicist (media) and a gulliable audience being told that this is the #1 award winner. This is the best spin in 50 years.
Originally posted by davdah: Those buildings were built like an insect. With an exoskeleton. The main supports were around the perimeter. Normally a good idea except when it comes to fires. When a fire seeks oxygen the flames have a tendency to be drawn towards the outside through open or broken windows. That puts the flames in direct contact with the supports of the building. In a brick or stone structure it has little affect. With steal it will lose temper and soften.
So now the conspiracy theory will go that those buildings were built that way for the sole purpose of 9-11. How retarded can we get.
The so-called truth you got listed is at best a third rate hack job from an equally third rate conspiracy theorist. Jeezus. Will you open your eyes and use a little common sense. Re-watch those videos again. This time listen to what your being told to assume that wasn't actually said. A clue, time, need, situation.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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Originally posted by davdah: Those buildings were built like an insect. With an exoskeleton. The main supports were around the perimeter. Normally a good idea except when it comes to fires. When a fire seeks oxygen the flames have a tendency to be drawn towards the outside through open or broken windows. That puts the flames in direct contact with the supports of the building. In a brick or stone structure it has little affect. With steal it will lose temper and soften.
So now the conspiracy theory will go that those buildings were built that way for the sole purpose of 9-11. How retarded can we get.
Yes, try this. Hold a lit match under a steel pipe in your house. Next, light up an Oxygen torch and put it under that same steel pipe. That is the difference between jet fuel burning and office furniture on fire. You have been shnookered.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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