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Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin and who will pay me?



 
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Big Grin bcoz he is the greatest of all times and dont start a new fight now lol



2hand Pele is the greatest Mike!


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oh there we go,get away from here CM lool , pele is a joke ,he was the greatest when they use to use the socks instead of the b.alls lool ,maradonna forever buddy Big Grin



 
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(AFP) – After a lifetime spent staring down adversity and triumphing against the odds, John McCain has rightly earned the reputation as the king of the comebacks.

But the defeated Republican presidential candidate(Big Grin) and Arizona senator may find it hard to rebuild his political career after Tuesday's heavy election loss to Barack Obama, analysts say.

McCain, 72, now faces an uncertain future as the shell-shocked Republicans attempt to regroup with an eye on mid-term elections in 2010 and the next White House race in four years' time.

While aides to McCain have suggested he could return to the Senate and become a Republican elder statesman in the mould of Democratic lion Edward Kennedy, opinion is split over how influential he may be.

"If he was younger(Big Grin lol) and likely to run for the presidency again the party could rally around him and he could be influential," said Julian Zelizer, a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University.

"But that's not going to happen. His problem is that he doesn't have anywhere to go. And a lot of people are going to be angry, and will probably blame his campaign for the scale of the defeat."

McCain emerging as a Kennedy-style figure of the right was unlikely, Zelizer said. "After running against Jimmy Carter, Kennedy had a clearly defined role as the voice of American liberalism. He stood for a coherent and easily recognizable set of ideals," he told AFP.

"John McCain doesn't really represent anything and in a sense that was part of the problem of his campaign."

However McCain could secure his legacy if he acts as a moderate voice seeking to shape Republican opinion in partnership with the Obama administration.

"He could be particularly effective if he reaches across the aisle to work with Obama," Zelizer said.

Sherry Be***** Jeffe, a senior scholar at the University of Southern California's school of Policy, Planning and Development, agreed.

"I think that's the role he must play -- to be a bridge between Obama and the Republicans on the Hill," Be***** Jeffe told AFP.

"It's clearly the kind of role that McCain feels comfortable in. He built his reputation on working across the aisle and that is what he has to do again. It makes infinite sense for him to attempt to work in partnership with Obama."

Republican strategist John Feehery, a senior aide to former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, believes McCain can still be a pillar for Republicans to rally around as they recover.

"McCain is going to return to a shattered party, but he'll still be the biggest name in the Senate and the biggest name in Republican politics, and I think some people will rely on him to be the voice during these times," Feehery told Politico.com. "It'll be up to him on whether he gives up or helps re-brand the party."

But Thomas Mann, a congressional scholar with the Brookings Institution, recalled how McCain returned from his unsuccessful 2000 bid for the Republican nomination to be a thorn in the side of President George W. Bush's administration.

"For a long while, he opposed the central pillars of the Bush administration, like on tax cuts for example and he really flirted with the Democrats," Mann told Politico. "This time, he'll find there are no friends on either side of the aisle."

Zelizer compared McCain to another beaten presidential candidate from Arizona, McCain's ideological hero Barry Goldwater.

"Barry Goldwater was admired and respected throughout the 1960s by conservative thinkers and intellectuals but he was marginalized by the party after his heavy defeat to Lyndon Johnson in 1964," Zelizer said.

Be***** Jeffe said focusing on legislative issues, such as immigration reform, may offer a more likely route towards securing a legacy.

McCain and Ted Kennedy worked together on a failed 2007 bill that would have given legal status and a path to citizenship for the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

But during the election campaign McCain said he would no longer vote for the bill, claiming that voters saw securing borders as the greater priority.

He later insisted he had not flip-flopped on the issue and remained committed to its key provisions.

"Immigration could be the kind of area that McCain looks at again, and it's the sort of issue that he could work with Obama on," Be***** Jeffe said.

"It could also be popular with Hispanic voters which is important for both McCain and Obama."



 
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Maradonna was pretty good but Pele accomplished more in the "real football" world..lol


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accomplished what exactly? give me one example CM? what? made more goals? so what ? his team was the best in the world back then while all the other players were idiots lol. maradonna faced the best players in the history in his time and he was the greatest of them all and soccer isn't the same as pele's era CM .come on man be real lol



 
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Maradonna was pretty good but Pele accomplished more in the "real football" world..lol



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you stay out of it sprint lool



 
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Just like in boxing Muhammad Ali will ALWAYS be the greatest!!!!...float like a butterfly sting like a bee ..LOL!!


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mohammad ali is not the greatest and he will never be, mike tyson is the greatest of all times Big Grin



 
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Edison Arantes do Nascimento,[6] KBE (born 23 October 1940 in Três Corações, Brazil), best known by his nickname Pelé, is a Brazilian former football player, rated by many as the greatest footballer of all time. He was given the title of Athlete of the Century by the International Olympic Committee.[7] While his birth certificate shows his first name as Edison (after the American inventor), he prefers to call himself Edson, but it is as Pelé that he has become a sporting legend.

In his native Brazil, Pelé is hailed as a national hero. He is known for his accomplishments and contributions to the game of football,[8] in addition to being officially declared the football ambassador of the world by FIFA and a national treasure by the Brazilian government. He is also acknowledged for his vocal support of policies to improve the social conditions of the poor (when he scored his 1,000th goal he dedicated it to the poor children of Brazil).[9] During his career, he became known as "The King of Football" (O Rei do Futebol), "The King Pelé" (O Rei Pelé) or simply "The King" (O Rei). He is also a member of the American National Soccer Hall of Fame.

Spotted by football star Waldemar de Brito,[10] Pelé began playing for Santos Futebol Clube at 15 and his national team at 16, and won his first World Cup at 17. Despite numerous offers from European clubs, the current economic conditions and Brazilian Football regulations benefited Santos FC, thus enabling them to keep Pelé for almost two decades until 1974. Pelé played as an inside forward, striker, and what later became known as the playmaker position. Pelé's technique and natural athleticism have been universally praised; he was renowned for his excellent dribbling and passing, his pace, powerful shot, exceptional heading ability, and prolific goalscoring.

He is the all-time top scorer in the history of the Brazil national football team and is the only footballer to be a part of three World Cup-winning teams. In 1962 he was part of the Brazilian squad but due to an injury suffered in the 2nd match did not play the whole tournament. In November 2007 FIFA announced that he would be awarded the 1962 medal retroactively, making him the only player in the world to have three World Cup winning medals.

Since his full retirement in 1977 Pelé has been an ambassador for football and has also undertaken various acting roles and commercial ventures.


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Get the picture now senor Mike??!!..LOL!


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rated by fifa bcoz they hata maradonna and fifa s.uck so bad lol , but maradonna is the greatest of all times and everybody knows it CM Big Grin the public voted for him as the greatest of all times but fifa voted for pele which is fake lol ,i know his history ,not interested buddy lol



 
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One of those two is a drug addict, not sure which one though! Big Grin
 
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One of those two is a drug addict, not sure which one though!

maradonna is lol,but this had nothing to do with his football skills Big Grin



 
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Ok let's take this football/boxing over to the Boss thread..so we leave this thread to Obama Smile


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lol ok



 
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Yes ma'am..lol


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who cares about that? i care about his skills ,who cares about his personal life



 
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yeah heard of fair play , heard of something called set up someone? this is what happened to maradonna, they set him up bcoz they hated him and the FIFA was behind it



 
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