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Here is another article with more information about it:

Judge blocks Oklahoma illegal immigration law
By RON JENKINS
Associated Press
June 5, 2008

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- A federal judge on Wednesday blocked parts of an Oklahoma law targeting illegal immigration, saying the measures are probably unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Robin J. Cauthron issued a preliminary injunction prohibiting enforcement of provisions of the law that subject employers to penalties for failing to comply with a federal employee verification system.

The decision came on a lawsuit filed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Oklahoma Chamber and other business groups, who argued that the electronic verification system is voluntary under federal law and that employers should not be subjected to state penalties.

''Through harsh civil penalties, the Oklahoma law unfairly shifts the burden of immigration enforcement from government onto the backs of business,'' Robin Conrad, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber, said in statement.

The provisions in effect since November prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving tax-supported services and make it a state crime to transport or harbor illegal immigrants, a provision loudly criticized by social agencies that work with the immigrant population.

The state law took effect in November 2007, but the employer provisions under attack were set to take effect July 1.

Cauthron held that the plaintiffs would probably establish that the state measure pre-empted federal law on immigration.

Attorney General Drew Edmondson defended the law.

''We will attempt to overcome this hurdle when the matter is set for hearing on the permanent injunction,'' he said.

Rep. Randy Terrill, a Republican who introduced the legislation, predicted the case would be appealed if the plaintiffs prevail in their quest for a permanent injunction.

No hearing date has been set.

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Here is another article with more information about it:

Judge blocks Oklahoma illegal immigration law
By RON JENKINS
Associated Press
June 5, 2008

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- A federal judge on Wednesday blocked parts of an Oklahoma law targeting illegal immigration, saying the measures are probably unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Robin J. Cauthron issued a preliminary injunction prohibiting enforcement of provisions of the law that subject employers to penalties for failing to comply with a federal employee verification system.

The decision came on a lawsuit filed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Oklahoma Chamber and other business groups, who argued that the electronic verification system is voluntary under federal law and that employers should not be subjected to state penalties.

''Through harsh civil penalties, the Oklahoma law unfairly shifts the burden of immigration enforcement from government onto the backs of business,'' Robin Conrad, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber, said in statement.

The provisions in effect since November prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving tax-supported services and make it a state crime to transport or harbor illegal immigrants, a provision loudly criticized by social agencies that work with the immigrant population.

The state law took effect in November 2007, but the employer provisions under attack were set to take effect July 1.

Cauthron held that the plaintiffs would probably establish that the state measure pre-empted federal law on immigration.

Attorney General Drew Edmondson defended the law.

''We will attempt to overcome this hurdle when the matter is set for hearing on the permanent injunction,'' he said.

Rep. Randy Terrill, a Republican who introduced the legislation, predicted the case would be appealed if the plaintiffs prevail in their quest for a permanent injunction.

No hearing date has been set.

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I bet you this is in direct response to the Federal Judge's ruling in Dallas to place a permanent injuction on the Farmer's Branch laws.


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The United States often attracts immigrants who belonged to the economic elite of their origin country.
Immigrants from Vietnam, Cuba, and the Philippines enjoy some of the highest rates of assimilation. However, these groups assimilate more rapidly in some respects than others. For example, they are far more assimilated economically than they are culturally. Curiously, all of the countries mentioned have experienced U.S. military occupation.


Hi Hudson,

Very interesting read. I can attest to this, in particular, the Philippines. The article said that the economic assimilation is faster. The cultural assimilation isn't that far off. The US is a very strong influence in that country. Culturally speaking, despite the general conservative values that that country has, the American influence is widespread - from lifestyle, to fashion, to music, etc.


yes!!! THERE ARE MANY FROM THE PLACE THAT HAVE SERVED ALONG SIDE bROTHERS OF usa! THESE ARE THE GOODIES
! AND MANY MY DEAR FRIENDS!

However, many still exsist that are selfish in life! For self! For family! No Matter What!!!!
real shame Frown these affect it for the other goodies. Frown.

Many after adjusting and Realizing New Home/ Distance selves from the bad Ones. I am sorry that It is hard to accept. Frown

I Want The goodies to prevail!!! Regardless of origine! Wink
 
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I bet you this is in direct response to the Federal Judge's ruling in Dallas to place a permanent injuction on the Farmer's Branch laws.



Maybe, I haven't heard too much about it here.
I know they have been pushing to turn the new laws from 1804 around here, finding any loophole they can.

Farmers here are not happy that is for sure.


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In my opinion, most are pursuing the illegal immigration the wrong way like the HR 1804 law.


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Other than OK..does any other State have the HB 1804 too?


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Other than OK..does any other State have the HB 1804 too?

Well, Hazelton's law is being challenged as well as Kansas law similar to Hazelton. But I do not know if any state has a law similar to what OK did.


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Yes. Frown And Other ways. Its Not the Bad people! Its Our System!!!!! Frown.

I Am Ashamed of USA Procedure! And Selfishness In the workplace Also Here. Frown

These Are important Jobs and responsabilities! Not just a job! A very important responsability For protecting The good!!! of USA! and The Imigrants Following The correct rules and procedure!
 
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Joe Arpaio's Anti-Immigrant Witch-Hunts Defunded by the State of Arizona

Center for American Progress. Posted May 19, 2008.

The cowboy sheriff's racial profiling isn't making Maricopa County any safer.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s unconstitutional Latino witch hunt will no longer be subsidized by the State of Arizona. It turns out that while Arpaio had his deputies stopping anyone who looked like a Latino immigrant, there were 60,000 real felons running around Arizona. Apparently Governor Janet Napolitano has had enough. This week she took $1.6 million from Arpaio and redirected it to a new state-run fugitive task force to get real criminals off the street. Of course this was supposed to have been Arpaio’s job all along.

For those not familiar with Arpaio, he is a media hound, once even doing a pilot for a comedic Fox TV police reality show. On another occasion, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals struck down his efforts to run his own reality show via webcam over the internet because it violated prisoner rights. The U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear his appeal. How any of this clowning would have reduced crime remains unclear.

Without his own show, Arpaio encourages TV news cameras to ride along with his deputies as they hunt down undocumented immigrants. Lacking any particular insight into who is or is not an immigrant, Arpaio’s tactics have consistently disrupted the lives of Latino U.S. citizens and terrorized families in Phoenix and surrounding towns. He even requires that victims and witnesses of crime prove their immigration status. This absurdity actually encourages crime by ensuring that many immigrants will not report crime.

48,000 individuals charged with or convicted of felonies, including violent crimes, are currently on the loose in Maricopa County. Despite the obvious need to apprehend these people, Arpaio spends his time elsewhere. Cameras in tow, he sweeps into Latino neighborhoods with large numbers of deputies and stops as many people as possible on the basis of alleged motor vehicle violations, looking for undocumented immigrants. That these immigrants are generally hard working and not a threat to anyone, does not matter to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s office. Nor does the fact that lots of citizens who do not realize their tail light is burned out are subjected to interrogation to prove their right to reside in the United States.

The Bush Administration’s Immigration Customs and Enforcement (ICE) has cheered on Arpaio’s behavior. ICE’s lack of concern for the civil rights of Latinos is not surprising given the large number of lawsuits currently pending against ICE by Latino citizens who allege that their homes were invaded by gun wielding federal agents demanding that they prove their right to reside in the country in which they were born.

Reasonable elected officials in Arizona have long called for an end to Arpaio’s defiance of the Constitution. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon has asked the FBI to investigate Arpaio for a “pattern and practice of conduct that includes discriminatory harassment, improper stops, searches and arrests.”

The Governor’s decision will make Arizona residents safer, even if it does not stop Sheriff Arpaio’s quest for attention.

http://www.alternet.org/immigration/85778/






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That a severely opinionated editorial.

How many of those 48,000 criminals are of latino descent?

I don't mean to sound racist here, but it sounds like he's looking for criminals. There's a reason they're called illegal immigrants.


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That a severely opinionated editorial.

How many of those 48,000 criminals are of latino descent?

I don't mean to sound racist here, but it sounds like he's looking for criminals. There's a reason they're called illegal immigrants.

Yes and no JC. For instance, when looking for a stash of illegal weapons, Sheriff Arpaio commenced a raid in a gated suburb. What happened, in my opinion, was very unprofessional. The house burned down, a dog killed and a neighbor's car destroyed by a APC that was being used in the raid. Yet no weapons were found. It is not the premise for searching the weapons that I find questionable, but his tactics. In another case, the jury found James Saville not guilty because the Sheriff used entrapment techniques in order to convict him. Or how about the arrest and indictment of Michael Lacey and Jim Larkin, and others, on charges of revealing grand jury indictments. What happened was that the Phoenix New Times printed the Sheriff's home address in an ongoing criminal probe in a real estate fraud scheme that Sheriff Arpaio. In the end, the charges were dropped and another lawsuit was filed against the Sheriff and the office. And then we have his misapplied law for detaining illegal immigration smugglers. He said he will not turn over the illegal immigrants and have them spend time in his jail. Two of his strongest supporters have even said that was not the intent of the bill. Finally, what RN is referring to was an incident in Guadalupe, Arizonba. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon has even called for a Congressional investigation.

In his tenure, there have been several lawsuits which the Sheriff's office has paid, on average, more than $8 million dollars of damages on each lawsuit. Not the kind of law enforcement you want to have.

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Note: Yes I know Wikipedia is not the best source, but it has a lot of links which are very useful.


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I concede my point. It does sound like guy is a dirtball.

The editorial is still opinionated, though. Hehe.

*JermCool runs and hides.


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But that's characteristic of how editorials or blogs are written, pro or con, writers have got to be opinionated. That's where the beauty lies in our system. You can express freely your criticism simply because the yardstick of being free is when you can criticize, as long as it's not malicious, libelous, defamatory, or feeds the prurient interests.






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In the U.S. on an H1B? Alberta PNP has a new option for you - no job offer required

The province of Alberta, with its booming economy and expanding cities, has been working to make it as easy as possible to bring in foreign workers to contribute to the provincial labour force. The Strategic Recruitment Stream, a new pilot project by the Alberta Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) can fast-track the issuance of Canada Permanent Resident visas to people who are in the United States on temporary work visas. No job offer required.

Many Canadian Permanent Resident applicants have previously worked in the United States on temporary work visas (H1B visas*). It is a fairly common path. Canada is much more open than the United States to the transition of temporary workers into Permanent Residents; so when U.S. work visas expire, many workers head north to Canada for Permanent Residency.

By adding the Strategic Recruitment Stream to the Alberta (PNP), the provincial government is making this easier. It is essentially saying that, if a foreign worker can secure a U.S. temporary work visa and has experience working in the United States, that’s good enough to prove that the worker can easily integrate into the Alberta workforce. Therefore, the requirement for the applicant to have a full-time permanent job offer from an Alberta employer has been removed, which saves the applicant time, and gets him/her to Alberta more quickly.

To be eligible, the applicant must be currently employed in the United States on an H1B visa and have been working there for at least one year. The year of work experience in the U.S. must be in an occupation that is listed as one of Alberta’s Regional Occupations under Pressure. Successful applicants will be nominated by Alberta for Canadian Permanent Residency, thereby fast-tracking the immigration process.

For those who do not qualify under this new program, there are other options under the Alberta PNP. The Strategic Recruitment Stream adds to the existing PNP, which already has an Employer-Driven stream for skilled workers, international graduates, and semi-skilled workers, and a Self-Employed Farmer stream.

Employer-Driven Stream: To qualify under this stream, applicants must have a permanent, full-time job offer from an Alberta employer.

Skilled Workers – must have a job offer in a skilled occupation and have the education and training required for the position.
International Graduates – must have completed a post-secondary program from an approved Alberta educational institution and have a job offer in a skilled occupation.
Semi-Skilled Workers – must have a job offer in the food and beverage, hospitality, manufacturing, transportation, or foodservices industries.

Self-Employed Farmer Stream: To qualify as a self-employed farmer, the applicant must have previous experience managing a farm and have the education and training necessary to develop a farming business in Alberta. The applicant must arrange proper financing with a Canadian financial institution and must satisfy minimum net worth and equity requirements.

Alberta has no limit on the number of people it can nominate for Permanent Residency. The Provincial Nominee Program is an attractive option for people who wish to have their immigration applications fast-tracked.

*also includes H1B1, H1C, and E3 visas.


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The United States often attracts immigrants who belonged to the economic elite of their origin country.
Immigrants from Vietnam, Cuba, and the Philippines enjoy some of the highest rates of assimilation. However, these groups assimilate more rapidly in some respects than others. For example, they are far more assimilated economically than they are culturally. Curiously, all of the countries mentioned have experienced U.S. military occupation.


Hi Hudson,

Very interesting read. I can attest to this, in particular, the Philippines. The article said that the economic assimilation is faster. The cultural assimilation isn't that far off. The US is a very strong influence in that country. Culturally speaking, despite the general conservative values that that country has, the American influence is widespread - from lifestyle, to fashion, to music, etc.


yes!!! THERE ARE MANY FROM THE PLACE THAT HAVE SERVED ALONG SIDE bROTHERS OF usa! THESE ARE THE GOODIES
! AND MANY MY DEAR FRIENDS!

However, many still exsist that are selfish in life! For self! For family! No Matter What!!!!
real shame Frown these affect it for the other goodies. Frown.

Many after adjusting and Realizing New Home/ Distance selves from the bad Ones. I am sorry that It is hard to accept. Frown

I Want The goodies to prevail!!! Regardless of origine! Wink


Why thank you MIR. It's indeed a reality seen everywhere, good and bad people from all places. Glad that we can agree on this one. Smile


Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.

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Hmmm, something new I learned about Sheriff Joe Arpaio today.


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Chertoff on 2-year EADs

"I'm also pleased to announce that we will be extending the validity period of the employment authorization documents that we issue to individuals who are waiting adjustment of status to lawful permit residenture or in colloquial phrase, the green card. Currently, adjustment applications are granted employment authorization documents with only a one year maximum validity. Beginning later this month, we'll start issuing these documents with a two-year validity period for aliens who are waiting adjustment of status if their application is expected to be pending for more than a year. This, again, is eliminating a persistent source of frustration for workers who are here, who have a pending adjustment application but have to go and renew their employment documents every single year." DHS, June 9, 2008.

http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/pr_1213101513448.shtm






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