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Vote Hillary Clinton for President!


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Mich. delegates may get seats, though it's unclear how
Second Dem vote not likely for state
BY TODD SPANGLER • FREE PRESS WASHINGTON STAFF • February 17, 2008

WASHINGTON -- Pretty much everyone expects some or all of Michigan's delegates to be seated at this summer's Democratic presidential nominating convention in Denver.


It's the "how" that is anyone's guess.

Dismissed as a meaningless beauty pageant and ignored for campaigning by all the top Democrats, Michigan's Jan. 15 primary seems to be gaining influence because one of those Democrats, Hillary Clinton, didn't take her name off the Democratic ballot and, consequently, easily won the uncontested race.

Now, from political pundits to the candidates themselves, everyone is talking about Michigan -- and Florida -- as a razor-thin margin separates Clinton and Barack Obama.

Like Florida, Michigan was stripped of its 128 regular and 28 super delegates to the nominating convention because it held an early primary in violation of national party rules. The Republican Party stripped each state of half of its delegates.

Among the Democrats, Obama and others who were still in the race took their names off Michigan's ballot. Clinton remained on the ballot but refused to campaign in the state.

Now, Clinton wants the delegates to be seated -- she won in Michigan and in Florida, where all the candidates were on the ballot -- and it could erase Obama's advantage in delegates; Obama, on the other hand, says he sees a role for both states only if it's done "without skewing the delegate count."

In the days immediately after the Feb. 5 Super Tuesday, which at one point was considered certain to produce a clear leader, there was wide speculation about holding a second election in Michigan -- a so-called do-over in the form of a party-run caucus or convention.

Increasingly, however, there seems to be little appetite for a second try.

Said Democratic National Committee member Joel Ferguson of Lansing on Friday: "It's not going to happen." The state's Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer agrees that logistically it would be all but impossible.

Initially, some Obama supporters said they liked the idea, but early last week, Michiganders for Obama posted a letter on its Web site, saying it concurred with the national campaign's position that a do-over caucus was not the way to go.

But a national spokesman for Obama said that was never the campaign's position and quoted the candidate as saying Feb. 7 that "if there is a way of organizing something in those states where both Sen. Clinton and I can compete, and we have enough time to make our case" he would support it.

Former Michigan Gov. Jim Blanchard, who cochairs Clinton's campaign in the state, said the primary results should be certified because Obama had a chance to compete and didn't.

"We're not going to redo it," Blanchard said.

The issue has been divisive in the African-American community. NAACP Chairman Julian Bond argued last week for seating the Michigan and Florida delegates, saying that not doing so would disenfranchise minorities.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, the civil rights leader, fired back, saying it wouldn't be fair to do so after the fact since the DNC decided those primaries wouldn't count.

What's next?

Officials will wait to see if results from contests March 4 in Texas and Ohio define a winner, though most experts expect the race to remain tight. In the absence of the emergence of a winner, the decision could fall into the lap of the party's credentials committee. And it's possible, if the race stays tight, that no compromise could be made for months if neither side blinks.

"I think the DNC is going to look at all the options, that you cannot disenfranchise the people who've already voted," said Gov. Jennifer Granholm. "The bottom line is Michigan's delegates will be seated."

But first, someone will have to blink.


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(NO SHE CANN'T)


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impossibility is a word found only in the dictionary of fools
 
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I believed we should respect each other opinion
in politics..This is a free country you are free
to vote who you think it's best.

Im a solid Democrat . Never a Republican!

Actually my whole family were Clinton supporters.


Hilary or Obama ...whoever will make history. Who ever wins the primary will get my vote.
 
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who are you talking to speed_025?


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impossibility is a word found only in the dictionary of fools
 
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Well Mike this is a discussion ain't it?
I'm allowed to give my political view
 
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did i say anything ? i didnt open my mouth , did i? but you should be saying this to iperson bcoz she's the one who attacked us first bcoz of our openion , read her previous threads and u will see what i'm talking about , and yes you'r allowed to give your political view but she doesn't believe on that


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impossibility is a word found only in the dictionary of fools
 
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Thank you for your support Speed.
I said many times that I respect sen. Obama and wish him well, and anyone who wants to vote for him, may do so. It is a free country.
The only person attacked here is me. I simply respond to these attacks.
But no more. Start your own thread Mike, and whoever else has a problem with my posts, and stop stalking me.


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Hillary Clinton
 
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lol


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impossibility is a word found only in the dictionary of fools
 
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Hillary Clinton Visits School Children

Hillary Clinton goes to a primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers question time.

One little boy puts up his hand. The Senator asks him what his name is.

"Kenneth."

"And what is your question, Kenneth?"

"I have three questions: First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan? Second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office? And, Third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House?"

Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary Clinton informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess. When they resume Hillary says, "Okay where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?"

A different little boy puts his hand up; Hillary points him out and asks him what his name is.

"Larry."

"And what is your question, Larry?"

"I have five questions: First - whatever happened to your medical health care plan? Second - why would you run for President after your husband shamed the office? Third - whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the White House? Fourth - why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early? And, Fifth - what happened to Kenneth?


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"what happened to Kenneth?"


OMG They killed Kenny!
 
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ABC (Anybody But Clinton)
 
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Faces of Defeat and Anger... Hillary looks like an angry, bitter and outraged feminist nazi. We don't like you Hillary... Drop out of the race and endorse Obama. Hillary loses for the 9th time in a row.




 
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