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<Kenny>
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According to Peter Bouckaert, senior researcher for emergencies at Human Rights Watch, over 20 mass graves have already been uncovered in Iraq, and there may be as many as 90. One grave alone in Hilla is estimated to contain 10,000 people murdered by Hussein's regime. Human Rights Watch estimates that there are 300,000 people missing in Iraq.

Why is there so much discussion about the coalition's failure to find weapons of mass destruction, when there is so much evidence of the ACTUAL mass destruction all over Iraq? Think about it.
 
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Totally agree with you. I don't care if they don't find the WMD's. But I see this thing dragging on for years, the troops are tired and battle weary, they don't know who their enemy is,"they smile at you during the day and shoot at you during the night" quoting one soldier. The Iraqi's want everything up and running NOW, it's going to take years to get that country back on it's feet. The Iraqi's have suffered terribly under Saddam, they still live in fear and understandably so, but they have got to start helping themselves rebuild their country and not expect the USA and allies to do it for them while our troops are trying to dodge bullets and rpg's day and night.
 
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There are hundreds of other regimes like the former Iraq, right now, operating happily and continuing their misdeads.

It is not our problem. We have enough problems right here, right now to be solved. We don't have the financial resources to play God in this world. The coalition was not after these graves, as far as I remember, at least they should be honest enough to say that they're after the oil, and all of this is really about Saudi Arabia!

Enough is enough! "You can fool some people some of the time. But you can't fool all the people all of the time." (a former, smarter President)

Bring back our troops, NOW!!
vote JohnKerry.(wel)com(e)
 
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Well this is it, isn't it, it would be wonderful to have the troops home. The Iraqi people have oil to rebuild their country (whole other discussion I know) but there is so much in-fighting in the country and has been for centuries that they'll never agree on who controls which province/district so the troops are stuck there for now fighting a losing battle in my opinion, not just the Saddam loyalists, but the Iraqi way of thinking in general. You have the US and allies trying to get the country back in order, but it's not going to work. So we have troops in Iraq, in Afghanistan, Kosovo etc etc and now Liberia may be the next stop. We can't "mother" all these countries, meanwhile another 9/11 could be just around the corner here. Should we just abandon these other countries and essentially let them become slaughter houses and let them wipe each other out?
 
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To Because: So if you were to have your way, you would abandon Iraq (bring our troops home now) and leave it in utter chaos? I wish you & others could get over the fact that we are there. John Kerry????? Hypocrite to high heaven! Where are these hundreds of regimes that have murdered HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE? Where are these hundreds of regimes that have ignored UN resolutions?
 
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<300,000 !!!!>
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300,000 people !????? Everyone is dead then and we should have not gone to war. LOL
 
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One country the size of California and 300,000 murdered, don't you think 300,000 men, women & children is enough? I'm sure you think that the 3,000+ who died due to the September 11th attacks were more than enough.
 
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The following quote is just a tiny example of the scale om which we can't have any influence or the financial resources (why is Iraq and its "humanitarian mission" any more important than the millions of Africans, by the way?), and I claim it's because it isn't.

"But realistically we should note that the government of Sudan has killed 2 [MILLION] of its African citizens, and that killing continues tonight; that 800,000 Tutsis were killed in Rwanda; and there are continuing mass murders on an enormous scale in the Congo, Myanmar and elsewhere." (www.house.gov/sherman/cr_041299.htm)

If you still feel (after it has now embarrissingly become clear, not only to the majority of Americans, but also to the entire world) that this war against Iraq was not about Saddam or Democracy or what ever BS was being mutered by imbecille politicians, but about oil, money and stocks, then I'm asking people like you to go or sent their family members over there to get disfigured and crippled and paralyzed, and if lucky to die for the few stocks to rise...
But don't tell other's to do that and be glad about it, too! I was always against this immoral and unjustified war (just like Viet-nam).

The most moral and safest thing to do for all Americans now is to get the **** out of there, appologize and resign. Then leave it to the next administration to clean up the mess and build new bridges and connections with the civilized and otherwise world community!
 
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