Blacks continues to save this planet if you think about it. black has hero that all white combined
What do you mean by that?
What about John Paul II? I think the late Pope accomplished much more "saving" this planet, than Nelson Mandela. Of course, I don't mean to belittle Mandela's accomplishments in any way.
To Maria, do you have a problem with colored people? there are good and bad in all races,I have the feeling you were madly in love with a black man and he jilted you. but that does not mean you have to hate a whole race, you sound so ignorant, it is people like you that have this world in such a state i feel so sorry for you that you are so ill informed about different cultures. There are a lot of black inventors and black people who can use you as their footcloth, you should be ashamed of yourself to post such garbage, if you have nothing good to contribute to the board then stay of, and go back to school.
<<I am a black man, well not african american but black man from Africa.>> Blacks from Africa are O.K. I am against African American Blacks primarly from the Northern cities like New York, Washington DC, Chicago -dru crazed Negroes. Group responsibility yes it applies - Americans applied it to Iraqies, Lebanon people, Palestinian, Serbian and other nations so why not apply it as the whole to American Negroes. Go to work!
MARIA = SHUT THE ***K UP...Your posting has no relevance in this website. You are giving me a bad name. All low lifes comes in different forms and colors including you. Maybe you are just pissed off that all the other colors are cutting in on your piece of welfare. What's the matter? Has the price gone up on weed and beer that you are having a coniption fit? You are nothing but an ignorant appalachian trash.
Maria, you are going overboard with your posts. Your remarks are racist and unjust.
I gather you are a European white who never had any contact with Black people and all you know about them is from stereotyping. Stereotype is the worst invention of human mind, coming from our inherent defense mechanism called generalization. It is a natural instinct, as is stereotyping. No intelligent thinking human being bases their opinions on basic instincts.
Every human race brings positives as well as negatives into the human kind. The Black people in general are very kind and have an innocence about them, which white people can only learn from. Ask yourself why only American African people are the way you describe. Is it an inherent trait of the race? Or is it the harsh rat race environment they find themselves among the white. Maybe that isnt a natural environment for them to start with. Maybe there is some merit in it? Did you do any deeper thinking or you simply prefer to resort to simple minded remarks?
A hero is someone who can endure and overcome major challenges to achieve greatness. A hero never gives up. The thought never even crosses their mind. They are focused and determined on working long and hard to always try harder than their hardest. A hero is someone who does more than help themselves, they never abandon someone who is relying on them, and they always make the best of every situation. That is why my hero is Jesse Owens.
James Cleveland Owens was born on September 12, 1913 in Danville, Alabama. He was the seventh of eleven children to be born to his parents, who made their living as sharecroppers. Their life was rough and there were times when not enough food was available for them all. When James Cleveland, or J.C., was seven they sold their farming equipment and moved out of their small unheated home, setting foot for Cleveland, Ohio where they hoped to find prosperity. The young Owens entered city grade school and was accidentally given the name Jesse by a teacher when she recorded his name of "J.C." He raced with friends in the schoolyard and in his neighborhood. Charles Riley, the Junior High track coach, noticed Jesse and began working with him before school hours, so he could still hold a part time job to help his parents pay bills. In high school, he set national records in the 100m dash, 200m dash, and the broad jump (today called the long jump). Although many colleges were after Owens to be their athlete, he never looked at college as a serious possibility because his family and his wife (he married at eighteen) needed his financial support. Even though he had such great promise, he would not leave his family to be without his financial support. Only after Ohio State found a steady job for his father that would support the family, did he enter college. He did not receive a scholarship and instead paid for his own tuition by working three jobs in addition to keeping up his studies and training hard to become a great athlete. He faced many problems with segregation. In the early 1930's, all African-American students, including Owens, were required to live off campus. On trips to away competitions he had to eat at "blacks-only" restaurants and stay at similar hotels. Occasionally, a "white" hotel would allow him to stay there but he was not allowed to use the elevators or the front door.
Photo courtesy of the BBC Academy On May 25, 1935, Owens traveled to The Big Ten track and field championships, being held in Ann Arbor, Michigan. He had recently fallen down a fight of stairs, and his coaches were not sure if he would be able to participate in the meet. Even if Owens was not completely ready to run, he was determined to compete and do his best. After convincing his coaches, he ran the 100 yard dash. All three of the official timers clocked him at the same 9.4 seconds, tying the previous world record. Only fifteen minutes later, he took first place in the broad jump. He flew 26 feet 8 ¼ inches, shattering the previous world record of 26 ft. 2 ½ inches, by nearly six inches. He went on to compete in the 220 yard dash, finishing with a time of 20.3 seconds, a new world record. He competed in one more event, the 220 yard low hurdles, and set another world record with a time of 22.6 seconds. Despite the pain he had been in, he set three world records and tied a fourth in just over an hour's time, which is practically a world record of its own. This was an amazing feat, but his triumph didn't stop there. He entered the 1936 Olympics that were to be held in Nazi Germany's Capitol, Berlin. Hitler was planning on using these Olympic Games to showcase Aryan athletes like his track and field star Lutz Long. Long and Owens first competed against each other in the broad jump. Long started off by jumping to a new Olympic record. This made Owens very nervous because even though he had previously jumped ****her than Long's record, he was only human. Owens missed his first two attempts at the jump, and with only one attempt remaining, he leapt beyond Long's newly made record and to a new Olympic record of his own. Hitler was furious and left the stadium, while the mostly German crowd cheered and chanted for Owens. He went on to also win a gold medal in the 100 meter dash, the 200 meter dash, and the 400 meter relay he was part of.
Photo courtesy of The University of Michigan Stadium Story
After earning four gold medals and setting three Olympic Records, he returned home to great parades and great praise, but within months was unable to find work. "I came back to my native country and I couldn't ride in the front of the bus. I had to go to the back door. I couldn't live where I wanted..." quoted Owens. He left college prior to his senior year so that he would be able to provide more support for his family. He turned to be a professional runner. He ran a series of entertainment races against horses, cars, and motorcycles. All the while he was looking for other means of work. He was at one point a partner of a dry cleaning company but nothing seemed to provide him with a reliable income. In 1950, he moved from Cleveland to Chicago and began working with children as a director of the South Side Boys Club. He gave speeches, along with other celebrities such as the Harlem Globetrotters, on the Goodwill Tours in America. In the early 70's he published two books, Blackthink and I Have Changed. Owens was invited to the White House to honor his Olympic accomplishments by President Gerald Ford, receiving a Presidential Medal of Freedom, forty years after the fact. Two years later in 1979, President Jimmy Carter awarded him with a Living Legend Award. Jesse Owens died on March 31, 1980 due to lung cancer. Ten years later in 1990, he was awarded a Congressional Gold Medal by President George H.W. Bush.
As the son of a sharecropper and the grandchild of a slave, he had a lot to overcome. He worked hard his entire life to reach greatness. He was much more than a record setting athlete. He avidly opposed segregation and racism, and serves as a blatant example of how America failed to treat all as equals. He persevered through to achieve greatness beyond most people's hopes and dreams. Jesse Owens once said, "Any black who strives to achieve in this country should think in terms of not only himself but also how he can reach down and grab another black child and pull him to the top of the mountain where he is." This quote is reflected in his everyday attitude of his own life. He would never go to the top and leave others behind, for example not taking off to college until he made sure his family would be able do without his financial support. He helped children in the Southside Club, and made every effort to use his accomplishments to better the world for others. That is why Jesse Owens is my hero.
It is a sad situation indeed that we are even having this discussion. It only goes to show you how primitive and tribal we still are as human beings. Yes, the fact is that we think we live in the most civilized country in the world but in reality we are an exceedingly polarized nation with a sordid history. One does not have to look at Hitler to realize what genocide means, it happened right here. What was done to the native Indians and to the African slaves is inexcusable. How can someone be a Christian and yet be so inhumane. The whites have always considered themselves superior and civilized, the darker man always inferior and incapable. Fact is we are all barbarians and have a long way to go before we can even consider ourselves civilized. We all know that intelligence and ability has nothing to do with race. It all depends on the circumstances, opportunity, family, atmosphere and upbringing. People who pick on others often have low self-esteem and are underachievers themselves who have to criticize others to make themselves feel good. If it’s not the Jews, it’s the Blacks. If it’s not the Blacks it’s the Spics!! – Sounds like a bunch of ignorant people jabbering away!! Make America great like it is supposed to be. Stop this hatred – there are plenty all over that hate us anyway!!
I just had to post on this. I am a black man myself and a direct descendant of slaves. Yet today i have accomplished, to some degree even more than my white counterparts. I must say i am very dissapointed in the black community. There has to be a time to seperate segregation and racism from individual choices. Great men like Mandela and Malcolm X rose above the persecutions of their race. They spoke up for what they believed in. They strived to reach for their goals. There are a lot of people of my race that have learned absolutely nothing from our great men and HIDE behind racism, discrimination and what nots... I call it BULL****! Everywhere i have been, i have been accepted by whites, hispanics, chineses, every race i have run into. There must come a time for us to face the truth my fellow black people. We need to wake up, change our ways, read and understand our history, instead of blaming other races for slavery that happened eons ago...
Sorry Maria!! But if you study history and the facts you will see that the white man has always demonstrated how inhuman a human being can be, on virtually every continent. Who is the real barbarian? Educate yourself and then make your remarks about Black and White. You did not even acknowledge the fact that it was labor from all over the world that built the buildings, bridges and railroads of this country. And what about the Native Indians??
For more than 100 years, Mohawk people have taken part in the seemingly superhuman task of building skyscrapers and bridges throughout the United States, Canada, and abroad. Working in New York City since the 1920s, these brave and skilled ironworkers built the city’s most prominent landmarks, including the Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building, the George Washington Bridge, and the World Trade Center.
The Mohawk tradition of ironworking began in the mid-1880s when they were hired as unskilled laborers to build a bridge over the St. Lawrence River onto Mohawk land. They quickly earned a reputation for being top-notch workers on high steel, and “booming out†from their Native communities in search of the next big job became a fact of life.
During the 1940s and 1950s, many Mohawk ironworking families moved to the New York City area—as many as 700 families into Brooklyn—to aid in the city’s vertical expansion. In the 1960s, when New York City announced plans for the World Trade Center, Mohawk ironworkers eagerly accepted the challenge of erecting the then tallest buildings in the world. In September 2001, after the collapse of the twin towers, Mohawk ironworkers returned to dismantle what their elders had contributed to the Manhattan skyline decades earlier.
Do I need to remind you how the Native American Indians were and are still treated in this the land of the free!
Do I need to remind you how the Native American Indians were and are still treated in this, the land of the free?
How do they compare with blacks in regards to "equal rights?"
Over the years, I've come across and met a lot of Native American Indians. While blacks were brought over from Africa, NAI were born and raised here. It is them who should be taking the stance of a black man and rightly so too!
Yet, I've never heard NAIs blaming, nor pointing fingers at anybody's race or skin color, in order to justify any actions or behaviours on their part, much less take advantage of certain situations.
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Originally posted by frank32825: Sorry Maria!! But if you study history and the facts you will see that the white man has always demonstrated how inhuman a human being can be, on virtually every continent. Who is the real barbarian? Educate yourself and then make your remarks about Black and White. You did not even acknowledge the fact that it was labor from all over the world that built the buildings, bridges and railroads of this country. And what about the Native Indians??
For more than 100 years, Mohawk people have taken part in the seemingly superhuman task of building skyscrapers and bridges throughout the United States, Canada, and abroad. Working in New York City since the 1920s, these brave and skilled ironworkers built the city’s most prominent landmarks, including the Empire State Building, the Chrysler Building, the George Washington Bridge, and the World Trade Center.
The Mohawk tradition of ironworking began in the mid-1880s when they were hired as unskilled laborers to build a bridge over the St. Lawrence River onto Mohawk land. They quickly earned a reputation for being top-notch workers on high steel, and “booming out†from their Native communities in search of the next big job became a fact of life.
During the 1940s and 1950s, many Mohawk ironworking families moved to the New York City area—as many as 700 families into Brooklyn—to aid in the city’s vertical expansion. In the 1960s, when New York City announced plans for the World Trade Center, Mohawk ironworkers eagerly accepted the challenge of erecting the then tallest buildings in the world. In September 2001, after the collapse of the twin towers, Mohawk ironworkers returned to dismantle what their elders had contributed to the Manhattan skyline decades earlier.
Do I need to remind you how the Native American Indians were and are still treated in this the land of the free!
This is very debatable and racist. We can look at how Native Americans killed and maimed men, women, and children during the French and Indian War, The Revolutionary War, the Indian Wars, and so forth. We can look at the Mayas, Aztecs, the plains indians, etc. Or we can look how Chinese, Japanese, and other Asian countries treated other natinoalities and races differently. The point is, racism exists everywhere and no one skin color, no one natinoality, no one creed or religion has a corner on the market. Mistakes have been made on all sides, not just the Wasichu.
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Originally posted by K_Solomon: I just had to post on this. I am a black man myself and a direct descendant of slaves. Yet today i have accomplished, to some degree even more than my white counterparts. I must say i am very dissapointed in the black community. There has to be a time to seperate segregation and racism from individual choices. Great men like Mandela and Malcolm X rose above the persecutions of their race. They spoke up for what they believed in. They strived to reach for their goals. There are a lot of people of my race that have learned absolutely nothing from our great men and HIDE behind racism, discrimination and what nots... I call it BULL****! Everywhere i have been, i have been accepted by whites, hispanics, chineses, every race i have run into. There must come a time for us to face the truth my fellow black people. We need to wake up, change our ways, read and understand our history, instead of blaming other races for slavery that happened eons ago...
Sadly, you are the exception, not the rule. Keep up the good work and teach your success to anyone who is willing to listen.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Originally posted by frank32825: It is a sad situation indeed that we are even having this discussion. It only goes to show you how primitive and tribal we still are as human beings. Yes, the fact is that we think we live in the most civilized country in the world but in reality we are an exceedingly polarized nation with a sordid history. One does not have to look at Hitler to realize what genocide means, it happened right here. What was done to the native Indians and to the African slaves is inexcusable. How can someone be a Christian and yet be so inhumane. The whites have always considered themselves superior and civilized, the darker man always inferior and incapable. Fact is we are all barbarians and have a long way to go before we can even consider ourselves civilized. We all know that intelligence and ability has nothing to do with race. It all depends on the circumstances, opportunity, family, atmosphere and upbringing. People who pick on others often have low self-esteem and are underachievers themselves who have to criticize others to make themselves feel good. If it’s not the Jews, it’s the Blacks. If it’s not the Blacks it’s the Spics!! – Sounds like a bunch of ignorant people jabbering away!! Make America great like it is supposed to be. Stop this hatred – there are plenty all over that hate us anyway!!
And if it is none of the above, lets blame it on the whites.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
first you tried to justify your ridiculous arguments based on American foreign policies, which affect neither you, nor your country in any way. Realizing that it is these very same policies the ones allowing foreign companies to do business with you and get paid with American money (b/c you're in the US) and those carrying out war-like stances are just following orders...
you change your justification, saying that if it wasn't for your husband, you wouldn't be here to begin with. Would you go back home if something was to ever happen between you and him (i.e. divorce, death)? Realizing that you wouldn't go back regardless of...
rednecks are turned to as your new justification, people you obviously have never had any direct contact with whatsoever, since they live in the woods and you never leave home.
Thank God I'm not German!
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dmartmar, you must have been still half asleep because I can't understand your point in the above post of yours. Wake up and clarify, otherwise its mumbo jumbo...
I am sorry if I upset some readers but it is a historical fact that the white man is responsible for more death and destruction than any other. Not debatable, and certainly not racist, for I am white myself. Wheteher it is expansionism, imperialism, colonialism, manifest destiny, greed, or simply a mercantile system it is injustice. No, I am not blaming everything on the white man!! - Maybe I am just holding him to a higher standard, being superior and all that! Sorry, but as far as I know, the NAI were taught to scalp their victims amongst other things, by the French. Were they responsible for virtual genocide? Also, is someone suggesting that they dont blame the white man for their predicament!! What took place in the time of war is another matter altogether. Anyway, I did not mean to offend anyone or really argue the point. I just think that it is important that we open our eyes, be less ethnocentric, and learn from the past so we dont make the same mistakes again. As a (white) professor of history once pointed ot to me - the vast majority of immigrants that came to the united states were basically the scum of Europe, and lets not make fun of the Aussies for the British were dumping their criminals right here, long before they started to dump them in Australia. So, it is fair to say, that most of us or our ancestors, came to this land for economic reasons or to get away from some sort of persecution, be it religious or political. It should not matter where you came from or how you got here - boat, border or a 767!! If you live here, whether you are a citizen or a PR, this is now your country and you should have its interests in mind. Whether you came from Poland or some poor third world country it does not matter. America is what matters, and America is now
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