Time to make that second call to immigration to send the friendly green shirts to his door steps

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Originally posted by davdah:
If you want to find out what his status is you can get some info by calling 800-898-7180 .
As long as you have his 'A' number. Its an automated response system so you won't have to actually talk to anyone. If he is out of status call the local immigration office and tell them where he is so they can pick him up.

The numbers you rpovided from the American Patrol web site do not give the status of an alien, either legal or illegal. There is another status called "loose status." The numbers at USCIS will only verify if a case is pending under that number and if that case was sent to Lees Summitt or one of the four processing centers. If the petition is sent to the DO, then a different number is used, not the A#, although the A# will be a part of the petition process. And given the possibilities that the soon to be ex husband can adjust the status or abandon the status, calling anyone to report he is out of status is, at best a futile attempt.

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Originally posted by RationalE:

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It takes 5-10 years to get deported; check that number in 5 years

That's one of the biggest problems out there.
Speedy deportations would serve two goals simultaneously:

1. Remove an illegal alien who isn't supposed to be here in the first place (obvious)

2. It would also be the most humane way of dealing with the situation: the sooner illegal alien is removed, the better for him/her.

The problem iwth this comes from several different areas. First, Title 8 does not define specifically "illegal alien." Thus, it is not always easy to determine whether one should be deported or not. This leads to how an alien can petition or apply to adjust their status in coherence with immigration law and not be deportable. Making expedient deportable cases where an alien can easily petition to adjust the status will violate certain provisions of the Constitution and other US statues. And it could increase jeopardy, on the part of the state, where someone who had the right or avenue to petition the government for adjustment of status. By failing these two legal requirements, humane treatment cannot be defined appropiately.

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Originally posted by Hudson:

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Originally posted by RationalE:

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It takes 5-10 years to get deported; check that number in 5 years

That's one of the biggest problems out there.
Speedy deportations would serve two goals simultaneously:

1. Remove an illegal alien who isn't supposed to be here in the first place (obvious)

2. It would also be the most humane way of dealing with the situation: the sooner illegal alien is removed, the better for him/her.

The problem iwth this comes from several different areas. First, Title 8 does not define specifically "illegal alien." Thus, it is not always easy to determine whether one should be deported or not. This leads to how an alien can petition or apply to adjust their status in coherence with immigration law and not be deportable. Making expedient deportable cases where an alien can easily petition to adjust the status will violate certain provisions of the Constitution and other US statues. And it could increase jeopardy, on the part of the state, where someone who had the right or avenue to petition the government for adjustment of status. By failing these two legal requirements, humane treatment cannot be defined appropiately.

This may be OT, neverthelsess:

Someone who is not authorised by AG to be present in US is an illegal alien.

With the exception of those grandfathered by 245(i), and those immediately eligible for AOS or any relief from removal, who else can claim to have right to be present here under regulations of 8 CFR ,allowing one to stay indefinitely (in illegal status) to legalise at some point in the future?

Hudson

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see above

A futile effort to report someone out of status? I take that to mean its like telling the police someone 'J' walked. If that is the case then why was my fiance singled out and the gastapo sent to pick her up? All it took was a call from the j1 sponsor and within a couple weeks the entire fiasco started.

To be honest when they showed up and took her I began thinking maybe there was something special about her. Why the effort for one girl who worked at a gas station? What was it I didn't know? Turned out to be nothing. They do respond to calls on illegals as long as you give them good info. A name, 'A' number, home address. She wasn't the only one. There were a few just like her. A student who transfered to a different school other than the sponsor school. She got picked up. Another one who changed Jobs, another J1. There were a few criminals (felons) in the bunch. A drugee, hooker, etc. But many were just overstays.

The first number I gave her was the 800 number for checking status. The others were from a google search on who to call to report illegals.

1. Regular F-1 students (not J-1's, no calls/reports from sponsors whatsoever) , working as waiters, were routinely arrested and issued NOA's and ordered to leave - and this was back in 90's, before SEVIS and hightened enforcement.
So, nothing special/out of ordinary about your wife recently being picked up by ICE for overstay.

2. As to hot-line, ICE receives too many calls on daily basis and simply can't respond to them all.
If you were an illegal alien and called and told them tomorrow "I am an illegal alien, standing right at this location, not going anywhere, please tell me what should I do?", they would probably warn you not to bother them for no reason and that they had much more important tasks to attend.


There is no contradiction, it's a matter of work order.

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Originally posted by davdah:
Hudson

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see above

A futile effort to report someone out of status? I take that to mean its like telling the police someone 'J' walked. If that is the case then why was my fiance singled out and the gastapo sent to pick her up? All it took was a call from the j1 sponsor and within a couple weeks the entire fiasco started.

To be honest when they showed up and took her I began thinking maybe there was something special about her. Why the effort for one girl who worked at a gas station? What was it I didn't know? Turned out to be nothing. They do respond to calls on illegals as long as you give them good info. A name, 'A' number, home address. She wasn't the only one. There were a few just like her. A student who transfered to a different school other than the sponsor school. She got picked up. Another one who changed Jobs, another J1. There were a few criminals (felons) in the bunch. A drugee, hooker, etc. But many were just overstays.

The first number I gave her was the 800 number for checking status. The others were from a google search on who to call to report illegals.

The futile effort is because of the lack of information that most people have in determining how one is legal or "illegal." Hence, racial profiling, racial tendencies, innuendo, hearsay, etc are the norm when most people call. ICE does get information from other law enforcement agencies or government regulatory agencies, usually from disgruntled employees or ex employees, even ex spouses, ex lovers, ex friends, etc. The vendetta motive is usually high when someone calls ICE, not anything else.

So two scenarios with your ex fiance's work. First, ICE did get information and were targeting the criminals while your ex fiance got caught up in the dragnet. Or you were the one who made the call on your ex fiance. You are the logical candidate since your wx fiance probably told you most of the details. You will probably deny it of course, but maybe not.

Ok, gotcha, They probably get too many calls from nosey neighbors saying 'I know he is an illegal.' repsonse 'How do you know'. Neighbor 'He looks like one.' (lol)

X fiance? This is the one I've been with for a while. It actually was due to a call from her J1 sponsor. Which indirectly was my fault when I helped her with her taxes. I told her to call them to get a copy of her 2005 W-2. Once they knew her address they called it in. It would be kind of stupid for me to have done it. I did spend the 10K to bond her out and the 4k for the lawyer (so far). Just from a financial perspective, not a prudent move. Not to mention the trauma factor since then. Had i known then what I know now I probably would have had them send the w-2 to a p.o. box.

When they showed up to get her they did say it was called in. Just didn't say who. And, initally she did think it could have been me. I suppose anyone would at a moment like that. All in all it has helped us. She has learned to trust me completly. I was her only contact to the outside world and I followed through on everything I said I would. From that persepctive it could be said it was a good thing.

Anyhow, your probably correct about the source of most of those calls.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=534162835311259...ype=search&plindex=7