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Originally posted by Darkforce:
"Men like to fight, and if they don't they're not real men."

"Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle."

George S. Patton; General of 3rd Army


If you don't love to fight you are not a real man nor a real American !



A dog is smarter than a man. A dog knows when to run when the dog catcher is coming. A man is stupid, he'll stand there and fight and get his as$ whipped.

Basic philosophy.

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A man knows when to run when the dog catcher is coming. A man is stupid, he'll stand there and fight and get his as$ whipped.Basic philosophy.


- Speaking of stupid... look at this quote explora wrote; does it make any sense to anyone? !
 
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Anything gets your attention, eh?
Get the point? Doubtful, very doubtful.

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A dog is smarter than a man. A dog knows when to run when the dog catcher is coming. A man is stupid, he'll stand there and fight and get his as$ whipped.


- Speaking of stupid (she fixed the earlier misquote); why would a man be running from a dog catcher?
 
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Darkforce,
Please leave it right there. You don't know what can be occurring at any given moment.

During the earlier reply I was not paying particular attention because of distraction of being notified I'd need to fill in for a particular person at his place of employ because his daughter is in critical condition in the hospital and the other occupant in her vehicle was killed.

So, as far as any errors, misquotes, etc. I really don't give a fat rats d a m n nor do I for whatever you think or call me.

If you have any sense, you'll drop it right here, please. Nuff said.
 
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I guess Explora is frequently chased by the local dog catcher ! LOL LOL LOL
 
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Most generally I'm running from ICE, doofus! I do quite well as a matter of fact!
 
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Originally posted by marmaduk:
IIRC, the current incarnation of the Dream Act requires those children granted conditional residentship status to either:
a) Attend college
b) Join US Armed forces

in order to qualify for the permanent resident and not having their temporary status revoked.


I see your point. There should be other options to make it fair. I am not a believer in forcing people into the military, so I must push back a little on this one. Thanks for 'opening' my eyes.



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IMMIGRANTS FIGHTING WARS. JUST DOING THE JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO.
 
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The Dream Act amendment is another smart thing for us to enact. Everyone wins. The Latino student can get a better job and the same student may be more productive in our economy. Not to mention maybe less folks on welfare and fewer lost kids commiting crimes and joining gangs.
 
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IMMIGRANTS FIGHTING WARS. JUST DOING THE JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO.


That's quite an insult to the hundreds of thousands of Americans currently deployed in Iraq & Afghanistan. One might disagree about the war, but to throw lowly insult such as this is truly a prerogative of select pathetic individual.
 
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Nearly 2% of the US Armed Forces - non-citizens; 8% - foreign born naturalized citizens; 18% - US born of IMMIGRANT parents; 22% - US born of 2nd generation IMMIGRANT parents; 32% - US born of 3rd generation IMMIGRANT parents; and the rest are sons and daughters of 4th generation or more IMMIGRANT parents. Now, where is the insult?






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Nearly 2% of the US Armed Forces - non-citizens; 8% - foreign born naturalized citizens; 18% - US born of IMMIGRANT parents; 22% - US born of 2nd generation IMMIGRANT parents; 32% - US born of 3rd generation IMMIGRANT parents; and the rest are sons and daughters of 4th generation or more IMMIGRANT parents. Now, where is the insult?


And let me guess every single one of those 92% is AMERICANS isn't it? With 50% or more from those that's been here for 4+ generations. Now what does it say about the previous comment that "AMERICANS WON'T DO" it?
 
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No, 100% IMMIGRANTS!






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Since you seemed to lump American and Immigrants as the same, then based on your logic, the argument is moot since its simply saying "Immigrants fighting wars, just doing the jobs Immigrants won't do." It makes no sense whatsoever.

I simply took offense of those who dare insulting us by saying Americans won't fight in wars, while the proof begs to differ.
 
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Since this act is unlikely to pass in our grid-locked Senate, the point is really moot, isn't it?


God Bless America and everyone else!
 
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CIR is probably dead for the year, but the Dream Act might pass since its attached to a different bill.
 
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Because the logic is simple: THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN BUILT MY IMMIGRANTS and the military service is intertwined with its total fabric as a nation. Without immigrants, this country is a vast expanse of wasteland. Being so, the term AMERICANS is simply predicated by the advent of IMMIGRANTS then, now, and in the years to come. The subject statement maybe irresponsible, but who's to blame? It's the byproduct of the raging debate and polarized views about the hot-button topic of immigration mess that's all around us that's left unchecked!






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CIR is probably dead for the year, but the Dream Act might pass since its attached to a different bill.


Like I was saying . . .

Sept. 26, 2007, 8:35AM
Hope fades for passage of bill to aid young illegal immigrants


By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON — The hope for immediate Senate action on the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants, faded Tuesday as the measure's chief Senate sponsor acknowledged he was having difficulty surmounting Republican opposition.

Sen. **** Durbin, D-Ill., has been seeking to attach the DREAM Act to the defense authorization bill pending in the Senate. But in an interview Tuesday, he said the DREAM Act isn't among the items on the table as Republican and Democratic leaders discuss ways to quickly wrap up debate on the defense bill.

"We haven't given up completely, but the options on this bill are limited,'' Durbin said.

"I'm disappointed for thousands of young people whose lives are just in limbo," he added. "They want to move on with their lives and do good things, and unfortunately we haven't been able to pass the laws to make that happen."

Immigrant-rights advocates were dismayed by the setback but vowed to find other means to pass the legislation, which they have sought since 2001.

"There is no question that this issue doesn't stop here," said Cecilia Muñoz, senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza. "The longer we wait, the more talented young people we close the door of opportunity to."

The DREAM Act would allow illegal immigrants who entered the U.S. before the age of 16, and have lived here at least five years, to receive conditional legal status if they have graduated from high school and have a clean record. After six years, they could become permanent legal residents if they serve in the U.S. military for at least two years or complete at least two years of college. As with most green card holders, they could apply for citizenship after five years.

The non-partisan Migration Policy Institute estimates slightly more than 1 million high school graduates and children still in school could gain legal status under the legislation.

The bill is officially the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act.

With conservatives being barraged with calls, faxes and e-mails from anti-illegal immigration groups that view the DREAM Act as a form of amnesty, some Republicans who supported the measure in the past have been reluctant to do so now. Durbin needs 60 votes to surmount an expected filibuster.

"We will try to block it," said Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss.

Some Senate Republicans, including Texans Kay Bailey Hutchison and John Cornyn, object to the immigration measure being brought up on a defense bill.

"Putting extraneous things on this bill isn't helpful," Hutchison said.

Other Republicans aren't ready to revisit an immigration debate that imploded in June when the Senate scuttled a sweeping overhaul endorsed by the White House that would have given most illegal immigrants a chance for legal status.

"People, I think, want to let the immigration thing cool off a bit before we jump back in," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, an Alabama Republican who helped derail the comprehensive immigration bill.

Josh Bernstein, federal policy director for the National Immigration Law Center, predicted DREAM Act supporters eventually will prevail.

"The politics is right and the commitment is there," Bernstein said. "We're not giving up."


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A dog knows when to run when the dog catcher is coming. A man is stupid, he'll stand there and fight and get his as$ whipped.Basic philosophy.

DARTHFORCE ASKED:
- Speaking of stupid... look at this quote explora wrote; does it make any sense to anyone? !



Hello Darkforcedher

Maybe this analogy will help you to understand Explora's statement..you being a military man commander type....

KOREA

VIETNAM

SOMALIA

IRAQ


Ruff tank
 
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A dog knows when to run when the dog catcher is coming. A man is stupid, he'll stand there and fight and get his as$ whipped.Basic philosophy.

DARTHFORCE ASKED:
- Speaking of stupid... look at this quote explora wrote; does it make any sense to anyone? !



Hello Darkforcedher

Maybe this analogy will help you to understand Explora's statement..you being a military man commander type....

KOREA

VIETNAM

SOMALIA

IRAQ


Ruff tank

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