Der,

Jealous of what? I was born in this country, I have a Masters Degree and well paying job. Get your head out of your ***!

I love my country and I also love my hispanic descent but being hispanic does not mean I am happy my relatives are breaking the law, in fact I condemn it! I am happy for people who become residents through all the legal avenues. People like my relatives are the reason why countries like Mexico are so **** corrupt in the first place and from your comments I'm assuming you'd do the same.

Bigpako, I am happy to know that you do not tolerate illegality and dishonesty but hey, this are your relatives and they have to do what they have to do because the end justifies the means. Just be happy for them if they get approved so that they can have a shot at the American Dream like you have. Who knows, they might become more productive members of the American society than those who were born and bred here. But this I can say, dishonesty and lying will not produce any good what we should promote is the giving of
legal papers to those that have been here for more than 5 yrs and are peaceful, productive and "law abiding citizens" (except for the fact that they have violated immigration law). I say that if they can speak english, have a decent job and have their immediate families here, let's give them a merry christmas and a happy new year.

quote:

Originally posted by bigpako:
Der,

Jealous of what? I was born in this country, I have a Masters Degree and well paying job. Get your head out of your ***!

I love my country and I also love my hispanic descent but being hispanic does not mean I am happy my relatives are breaking the law, in fact I condemn it! I am happy for people who become residents through all the legal avenues. People like my relatives are the reason why countries like Mexico are so **** corrupt in the first place and from your comments I'm assuming you'd do the same.

Well bigpako, what are you gaining broadcasting what your family members did?

Is it going to reverse what they did? No!

Unless you look super "white", then your Hispanic descent will show, so by you telling the world what your Latino family did is not going to help you either.

My .02 cents.

Freedom1

Did I say I was trying to hide my hispanic descent? Tell me where I said that, I said I love it, WTF?

Keep your 2 cents!

I thought this was a discussion forum, this isn't the only case BTW, read this:

For the past few weeks immigrant communities once again were inundated by various
rumors regarding LULAC. In particular, we have learned that a particular “pastor”
from New York offers various workshops at churches and hotel halls where she advises
people to go forward with fraudulent, fake applications using people’s religious
beliefs and luring them under pretenses to file fake, fraudulent applications for
LULAC categories.


What is LULAC? How does it really work? Here, I would like to briefly explain
how LULAC and a related cases – CSS and Zambrano– works.

LULAC, CSS and Zambrano class members (applicants) are allowed to get their green
cards (receive US permanent residence status) as a part of LIFE Act (Legal Immigration
Family Equity Act) of 2000. LIFE Act was enacted in December of 2000 as the result
of a long political campaign driven by the Association for Residency and Citizenship
of America (ARCA), an organization of the 1986 amnesty class members, and the Center
for Human Rights and Constitutional law. The current application deadline for
these class members is December 31, 2005.

In general, LIFE Act allows persons who applied for “interim rule” under CSS,
LULAC r Zambrano could file to become US permanent residents. The interim rule
allows applicants to obtain an Employment Authorization Document and gives them
a right to remain in the US legally pending the resolution of the amnesty class
actions (LULAC, CSS, Zambrano). Applicants were allowed to ask for temporary amnesty
work authorization documents from 1988 to 1995, when the courts allowed INS to reject
new applications for new applications for the amnesty work permits.


Who is covered under the Newman (LULAC) settlement? The following criteria must
be met:


<!--[if !supportLists]-->1) <!--[endif]-->you lived in the US unlawfully
from before January 1, 1982 to a date between May 5, 1987 and May 4, 1988, when
you went to an office of the ins OR A Qualified Designated Entity (QDE) to apply
for legalization;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->2) <!--[endif]-->you visited an INS office
or QDE between May 5, 1987 and May 4 1988 to apply for legalization;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->3) <!--[endif]-->The INS or QDE told you
that you were ineligible for legalization because you traveled outside of the US
and came back using a tourist, student or other re-entry document;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->4) <!--[endif]-->You do not have to be
a “previously registered” as a Newman (LULAC) class member. However, if you
did NOT apply for a Newman (LULAC) work permit, then you must also have had a complete
legalization application and fee when you went in to apply for legalization. If
you ever attempted to get a Newman (LULAC) work permit – even if the INS refused
to give it to you – then it is NOT required that you had a complete application
and fee when you went to apply for legalization.

People who DID NOT visit INS or QDE office during the May 1987- May 1988 application
year do NOT qualify under LULAC and are NOT entitled to receive any benefits under
the settlement.

What happens if you leave the US and reside abroad? May you still apply under the
Newman (LULAC) settlement? This topic is still under legal discussions. The
LIFE attorneys seem to think that persons otherwise qualified to apply under LULAC
but living abroad at this moment should not let the application period to go by
without applying because they no longer live in the US. By applying from abroad,
they will preserve their rights under the settlement as it is quite likely that
the canal court decision would favor this scenario.

Who is covered under CSS settlement? The following criteria must be met:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->1) <!--[endif]-->You lived in the US unlawfully
from before January 1, 1982 to a date between May 5, 1987 and May 4, 1988 when you
went to INS or CQE office to apply for legalization;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->2) <!--[endif]-->You visited INS or QDE
between May 5, 1987 and May 4, 1988 to apply for legalization;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->3) <!--[endif]-->The INS or QDE told you
that you were ineligible for legalization because you had traveled outside the US
without INS permission;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->4) <!--[endif]-->You do NOT need to have
“previously registered” as a CSS class member. However, IF you did NOT apply
for a CSS work authorization document, them you must also have had a complete legalization
application and fee when you went to apply for legalization. If you ever attempted
to get a CSS work authorization – even if the INS refuse you to give a work permit
– then it is NOT required that you had a complete application and fee when you
went to apply for legalization.



People who did NOT visit INS or QDE office during May 1987 – May 1988 application
year do NOT receive ANY benefits under the settlement.

The same logic applies to those who are considering to apply from abroad – you
are encouraged to apply to preserve your rights under the settlement.

What do we know about current state of LULAC / CSS applications? This is the most
curious question. Regretfully, CIS (formerly INS) is being inundated by fraudulent
applications, applications from people who falsely claimed their eligibility under
CSS/ LULAC| class membership. Many of these applications were prepared by 3d parties
– immigration consultants, notarios, and other similar crooks who lured people
into applying by promising quick work authorizations. Well, my friends, I have
news for you: if you did submit a fake application (application that consisted
of false information and fake facts), CIS will find out about it. There are three
ways CIS is handling these applications now:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->(1) <!--[endif]-->your case is sent to the
District CIS office for an interview. Many people who paid various crooks to file
their application do not even understand why are they called for an interview and
show up there thinking that they are going to get their green card. Not quite –
CIS adjudication officer will request PROOF, evidence that you DO qualify under
the LULAC/CSS/Zambrano class membership. If you show up for the interview without
such proof, your case will be DENIED. The worst in this situation is that it subsequently
may be transferred to the Immigration Court for removal (deportation) proceedings.

<!--[if !supportLists]-->(2) <!--[endif]-->CIS sends you a Notice
of Intent To Deny your application. This is what is happening most often nowadays.
The Notice would give you 30 days to submit to CIS PROOF (evidence) that you qualify
under the class membership. Every Affidavit that is submitted from a private person
is subject to scrutiny by CIS adjudicators, and anyone who knowingly gives you a
fake Affidavit will be considering in violation of US immigration laws and subject
to federal criminal prosecution with the jail sentence possible. If you were to
be found to submit fake documents – and CIS has its ways to determine whether
the submitted information is true or false – you would be subject to removal (deportation)
and, worse yet – you may cut your eligibility for any future immigration benefit
for committing immigration fraud and violating US immigration laws;

<!--[if !supportLists]-->(3) <!--[endif]-->CIS sends you a Request
for Additional Information (RFE) requesting a proof (evidence) of your eligibility
and giving you up to 120 days to respond. Almost does not happen now as CIS smarten
up and decided to take an aggressive attitude towards fake applications.



What evidence is acceptable to CIS as a proof of my presence in the US during the
requisite periods? Affidavits from private persons are given little weight as
many of these Affidavits are fake, and CIS would treat them as fakes unless proven
otherwise. If you planning on submitting Affidavits, make sure there are plenty,
and people who give it to you have justifiable credentials. Most acceptable are
official records as medical bills, rental agreements, cancelled checks, utility
bills, credit card statements, any government communications addressed to you.
The more official documentation you can produce, the better your chances of success.

Can I lie on the application? How would they know that I am telling lies? This
one is easy: just like in all other areas of law, if you lie on a federal form (and
every immigration form is a federal form), you are committing a federal crime.
If you knowingly provide false information to the US government, you open a can
of worms that may lead to the end of your life in the US – period. I am an
immigration lawyer, and I have to take the side of my clients, and by doing so –
I AM on your side – I plead to you NOT TO LIE. Under no circumstances – DO
NOT LIE. If you lie, you close the doors to not only LULAC benefit but also to
any future possibilities as these things are not forgiven by CIS and immigration
laws. Please remember that you are not going to outsmart CIS, and if you seem to
think so (or have heard of people that may have done it), please remember that CIS
has a right to take your green card and even citizenship away many years from now,
whenever they find out that you lied. Remember about fake marriages in CA? People
had their green cards for years when FBI and CIS discovered an elaborate sham marriage
scheme last months and not only has taken – cancelled - the green cards back
but also put 44 people into federal criminal proceedings, and these people thought
that nothing could ever happen to them as they have received their green cards.
Do not follow these mistakes. If you don’t qualify for this benefit, just wait
– an immigration reform is in works, and you may have a chance to take care of
your immigration status in a clean, legal way that would allow you to peacefully
sleep at night. Be smart about it – and you will be rewarded when the time comes.

quote:

Originally posted by naypi2:
Bigpako, I am happy to know that you do not tolerate illegality and dishonesty but hey, this are your relatives and they have to do what they have to do because the end justifies the means. Just be happy for them if they get approved so that they can have a shot at the American Dream like you have. Who knows, they might become more productive members of the American society than those who were born and bred here. But this I can say, dishonesty and lying will not produce any good what we should promote is the giving of
legal papers to those that have been here for more than 5 yrs and are peaceful, productive and "law abiding citizens" (except for the fact that they have violated immigration law). I say that if they can speak english, have a decent job and have their immediate families here, let's give them a merry christmas and a happy new year.

naypi2,

I know where you're coming from with this & I somewhat agree, I have mixed feelings about this situation, I came to this forum to shed some light on this subject. Just becuase someone is related to me doesn't mean I don't expect them to abide by the law. I will try to be happy for them if they are succesful, in fact I will probably buy them an expensive bottle of Champagne, but I am a true beleiver of the "What goes around, comes around" principle, in other words, sooner or later we all pay for our faults & dishonestly.

Good bye all!

quote:

Originally posted by bigpako:
Did I say I was trying to hide my hispanic descent? Tell me where I said that, I said I love it, WTF?

Keep your 2 cents!

I thought this was a discussion forum, this isn't the only case BTW, read this:

Good for you then.

I just wonder what your mom/dad would say if they new what you're talking about your family behind their backs, that's all.

Peace.

Freedom1.

quote:

Originally posted by Freedom1:

quote:

Originally posted by bigpako:
Did I say I was trying to hide my hispanic descent? Tell me where I said that, I said I love it, WTF?

Keep your 2 cents!

I thought this was a discussion forum, this isn't the only case BTW, read this:

Good for you then.

I just wonder what your mom/dad would say if they new what you're talking about your family behind their backs, that's all.

Peace.

Freedom1.

Freedom1,

WTF do you care what my parents know or care to know? I think you're in the wrong forum, you need to go to the TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF ME & JUDGE ME forum. I came hear to share not to be Psychoanalyzed by your sorry ***!

Get a life!

For what it's worth, Mom & Pops also think these relatives are crooks! so there you have it!

bigpako: What exactly do you think you are providing this forum by washing your families dirty laundry here? If you wanted them to do the right thing why not file for them as a relative for a US citizen? I don't think there are any relatives but that you bigpako did this and you want to know what is going to happen to you. Spare us your manipulation, a US citizen would not be wasting their time on this forum for such nonsense that you aspoouse. What do you think we are, stupid?

OK Everyone... looks like BIGPAKO is pissed off now..Why did you do that? Anyhow, I agree with some people. Bigpako - you are very lucky to be born and educated here. I'm sure your ancestors were immigrants too, except the immigration process was not as bad then as it is now. I'm sure these relatives of yours are good people but stuck in a bad situation.

Anybody will do anything to survive, including animals. These relatives of yours paid a lot of good, hard earned money, Your relatives did not kill anyone, did not steal anything. Did not harm anyone. What they did does not even come close to what the first Americans did with these poor natives of the U.S. I'm sure their intention for legalization is sincere. To have a better life and SHARE their good fortune with less fortunate family members and other people. Who knows? You may need their help eventually.

Remember, we are all human beings and in the end we should all help each other. The only difference between you and your illegal relatives is that you have a blue passport and they do not. Under God, we are all the same legal or illegal.

I aggee what they did was illegal but they will have to face the consequences "if" it comes. But that is for them to endure not yours. What they did is not right but it is not SINFUL. Let's give them a chance, a shot of hopefully a good life.

We appreciate your updates and all of us clinging on this hope of being an American wish that you understand and help us.

quote:

Originally posted by Vanga:
bigpako: What exactly do you think you are providing this forum by washing your families dirty laundry here? If you wanted them to do the right thing why not file for them as a relative for a US citizen? I don't think there are any relatives but that you bigpako did this and you want to know what is going to happen to you. Spare us your manipulation, a US citizen would not be wasting their time on this forum for such nonsense that you aspoouse. What do you think we are, stupid?

As a matter of fact I do think you're stupid. Everything I've said here is true. Crime is crime, there are no shades, it either is or isn't. My relatives broke the law and should pay.

I am Glad i started showing really the true Identity and Intentions of BigPako and truly i do not think he is Hispanic Descendant.
Like we all agreed that he had no Biz putting relatives Stuff on this Forum.
you should be Glad that they ared attempting to Legalize themselves as the US isn't giving Amnesty and they canot stay Illegal all their life.Support them and not destroy them....

To Freedom 1 - Did you receive anything? any decision from the INS? Also, what documents did you provide to base your case?

Thanks

BigPako is a dubious individual. He wants someone from this forum in DESPERATE status to contact him privately and of course help him deal with his financial woes...$7,000. Why need to pay if you are telling the truth

MODERATOR, please delist this con-artist.

quote:

Originally posted by msmaria:
To Freedom 1 - Did you receive anything? any decision from the INS? Also, what documents did you provide to base your case?

Thanks

Hi msmaria,

No I have not received anything yet, but it has only beena a week since my interview. The officer told my lawyer to expect an answer within 30 days.

As far as evidence goes, I presented school records, receipts, official social security records, and affidavits.
The officer also asked me for my medical exam, which I had them ready.
She took copies of my 2 work permits (one expired) and my social security card, California driver's license and my home country's passport.

What about you, where are you on the pipeline?

Freedom1

Thanks Freedom 1
I was only 16 yrs old in 1981 and my granny took care of all the expenses. I finished HS in my home country but did not pursue college here in the US. I only have evidence from 84 and up when I started to work and to date and affidavits from relatives and friends. My interview is on Wednesday and I'm a bit nervous.

quote:

Originally posted by msmaria:
Thanks Freedom 1
I was only 16 yrs old in 1981 and my granny took care of all the expenses. I finished HS in my home country but did not pursue college here in the US. I only have evidence from 84 and up when I started to work and to date and affidavits from relatives and friends. My interview is on Wednesday and I'm a bit nervous.

Hi msmaria,

Does your grand mother still alive? if so, did she gave you an affidavit stating that she's the one that was taking care of your financials during those years?

On the very last page of your I-687 application, how did you answer the CSS/LULAC Class Membership Worksheet?

If you answered "Yes" to Questions 1, 2 and 3 and "No" to Question 4, and "Yes" to either Question 5 or 6, your answers indicate that you may be eligible for legalization under the settlement agreements.

If you did not leave the U.S. as indicated on the worksheet, the USCIS probably will deny your application.
The good thing is that the information provided on your application can not be used to deport you unless fraud was committed.

Good luck on your interview.

Freedom1.

Ok Everyone, I just had returned from my CSS/Lulac interview this morning. I was very lucky to have been assigned to a decent officer although(Poker Faced ) still a decent human being. He reviewed my file and asked me questions based on my application. My date of arrival and expiry date of my entry to the US. Hey Freedom 1 - My continuous stay in the US from 81 to date was not a problem.
It was a very good interview he asked, I answered but in the end he did advise me that I will receive a letter in 2 weeks with an intent to deny. He wants me to prove that I was here in 1981 as stated on my application. This is going to be a challenge, over the past what 19 years, I have moved so many times. Does anyone have any comments? What happens now?